Obama celebrates Hanukkah at White House

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  1. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe because those "incidents" never really happened, unless you:

    Change the definition of "gropping" to mean "slight touch on one's shoulder?"

    And you make obama responsible for the bad timing of the British band

    and you turn a symbolic gesture HONORING the Jewish faith into a purposeful intent to offend, and you think that any Christian nativity scene is insulting the whole of Christianity by placing the child Christ in the manger prior to December 25?

    The stupidity of so many people who are so desperate to attack our president that they resort to the most petty incidents (and must blow up tiny mole hills into mountains in the process).

    What is great about this is that you are soooextreme and ridiculous that it turns fair, intelligent people away from your extremist rambling!
     
  2. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Yeah all the candles are lit, when only one candle a day during the week long celebration called Chanukka goes on.
     
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    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Yeah all the candles are lit, when only one candle a day is lit, during the week long celebration called Chanukka goes on. Yet again this man thumbs his nose at God, and thinks he can get away with it....but then again he's got plenty of leftists telling him he can so...it'll just be really sad when he stands before his creator to answer for his sin, as we all will someday. One can only pray that someday, somehow, God will get through to Obama, and he will throw off the delusions taught to him by Reverend Wright, and his moozlim father, and truly come to accept Christ as his lord and Savior.
     
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    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Excuse me, but ignoring God, and just doing whatever it is you for your own political well being wish to do, is not "petty".

    Within the Scriptures, God was/is very particular in his direction as to how we are to behave during his High Holy Days and celebrations.

    Within the Judaic and Christian theology, God states that to step outside of the directions he gives us regarding such, to do our own thing as Obammy is doing here, is an offense to him.

    Such and offense to God, as that as seen in the photo in the OP is very offensive then, not only to Jews, but to many of their Christian brothers and sisters as well.

    Why is that so, again because in the Scriptures, God states, it is an OFFENSE to God.

    What offends God, offends them, (and me)as that is their (my own) religious belief.

    So now that we have dealt with the theology of why that is not "petty".

    Who the hell are you to tell them/me their/my religious belief is "petty"? I'm sorry but, and I know you leftists like to ignore this, I have every right to believe, and worship God as I choose too thanks to a little thing called the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

    I'll kindly thank you for not insulting me by attempting to infringe my right, and that of my fellow brethren in God.

    As well as my God, and me, by acting in my Gods name, and attempting to celebrate his High Holy Days, in a manner not proscribed by the one true living God.

    If you and this President cannot do so, then don't be surprised in the least, and don't you dare presume, to tell us it's "petty" when I and my fellow brothers and sisters in God are offended.

    Because you see, we Christians and Jews, are quite unlike the Mooozlim allies of the liberal left.

    We actually speak out, when someone acts in our Gods name, in a manner not condoned by our God as taught to us in his scripture.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what in the picture "insult God,"

    and, by the way, i haven't seen anyone on the jewish side feel offended by the lighting ceremony.

    I also want to remind you that "God" is not a concept adopted by everyone!

    and resorting to such spinning as "michelle obama GROPPING Queen Elizabeth" is petty, misleading, and ridiculous.

    Now that we have clarified that, WHERE did I say that ANYONE religious beliefs are petty? although I willsay that in EVERY religions, SOME manmade dogmas surrounding the practice of religions are silly and have nothing to do with one's belief in GOD.

    Whether you like it or not is a moot point!
     
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    But that would conflict with his tee time.
     
  7. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Now pay attention ladies and gents, I am about to demonstrate how willing these liberals, like the one I quote above, are to flat out, bold faced lie in order to defend this President.

    http://youtu.be/oFz_Rm4YnPU

    Here Obama is, in the flesh, doing precisely what Sadanie lies and says


    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...chelle-obama-hugs-queen-breaks-royal-protocol

    Not only that, but if a British citizen themselves, were to touch the Queen as Michelle Obama does here.

    Such an act would be a very serious criminal offense there, considered an assault on the Queen.

    So not only is it highly improper, "groping" is actually a very mild way to describe what Michelle Obama did.

    Now Sadanie, care to explain why you are lying to defend the actions of this President.

    We have several instances where Obama has done such things, made such gaffes. And several instances and demonstrations of how the MSM just ignored it. When they would have been all over it with his predecessor.

    And yet you lie and claim, such incidents "never really happened".

    Let me guess we are all supposed to believe you just didn't know better.

    After all it's not like the DNC or the Obama campaign would ever send to this forum, plants to lie for Obama now is it. :rolleyes:

    Go away and lie for Obama someplace else. We only respect, and seriously consider the arguments of liberals who tell the truth here.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Could you please explain what the speech given by Obama in Hawaii has to do with the lighting of the Menorah, Michelle Obama touching the Queen's shoulder, or the band in England startin their music before the end of Obama's speech?

    And, are you trying to point out that Obama stated "here in Asia," while he was addressing the ASIAN committee in Hawaii as "a lie?"

    the fact is that is statement had nothing to do with a lie. although if you look at Hawaii solely as an American state, that statement may be considered erroneous. But, Hawaii, was historically part of Asia, and its culture and much of its heritage is Asian. even its original language is Asian.

    In addition, the summit was that of ASIAN nations, and Obama was referring to that fact.

    On another line, do you really think that because you tell me I should leave this forum, I'm going to tuck my tail between my legs in shame and go quietly?

    You are just too funny! :)
     
  9. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By the way, I forgot to answer your silly assertion of the "diplomatic incident" with the queen.

    I think this article will do so much better than I ever could to put this incident inits true perspective:

     
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    Where did you say their religious belief is petty? Guess you didn't read your own post.

    I've already explained to you how it's offensive to God, to not keep the high holy days precisely the way he says we are to do so.

    If that explanation in my previous post wasn't clear enough for you, go read a Bible or Tora.

    Either one of those will clarify why it's an offense to God, when we attempt to keep and celebrate his High Holy days in a fashion not proscribed by God.

    As for your claims that "no one on the Jewish side is offended".

    Apparently this no one is.

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4491...dan-iftar-dinner-2-wks-bf-ramadan/#more-44916

    Oh let me guess, folks are not "offended" when they are deliberately insulted, right liberal?

    Yet again, in attempt to defend this President you lie, lie, lie like a rug.

    Ut oh, someone has called you out for it.
     
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    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    There is no "true perspective" about it.

    You and your fellow liberals on CNN can attempt to "justify" her breach of etiquette and protocol till the cows come home.

    The FACT still remains Michelle Obama put her hands on the Queen, or well her hand.

    And if a British citizen, if one of her own subjects did so, they'd be looking at a very long time in prison for assaulting her royal person.

    Hell in the old days, they'd have hung Mrs. Obama for it. Or very possibly gone to war with the United States over it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason_in_the_United_Kingdom

    But oh that's right, Michelle and Barry are never to be held to the same standards within the law, as the rest of everyone else.

    No, not those two, they are above such petty, trifling concerns as adherence to the law. Whether that be our law, or the law of another nation when they visit there.

    That's right, I forgot, you liberals think that Michelle and Barry are supposed to be allowed to act in the most common of fashion when they are in another nation, representing the Citizens of this Republic.

    Oh, did we forget liberal that those two are not there as Michelle and Barry, when they are at a state function, they are there as the Citizens of the United States. And not just the liberals one's but all of them?

    But then again, we should ignore that little tid bit of international protocol and etiquette too right liberal? :rolleyes:

    Now go away lib, your constant, demonstrable, lying, in attempt to defend the many, insults, gaffes, and violations of the law (whether our own or that of another nation) committed by this President, are becoming tiresome.
     
  12. superbadbrutha

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    Sorry, but the Klan had members of both parties. With that said tell us the GOP President that put an end to the Klan.
     
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    The KKK was considered the militant wing of the Democrat party. Their first target was the GOP. A President does not have the power to end the KKK - that is asinine.


    Also it was Protestants that took the lead in ending slavery in the US of A. I think protestants have a right and duty to criticize racists.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=8yOsjE8OG4UC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=protestants+in+the+underground+railroad&source=bl&ots=3O9dBlSWWB&sig=kfz2Yif8cFPwK3tLkPWcxyBYg5U&hl=en#v=onepage&q=protestants%20in%20the%20underground%20railroad&f=false
     
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    From 1870 til it's demise in 1986 at the hands of the SPLC ,EIGHT OUT OF EVERY 10 Kluxers were Democrats.
     
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    Really, then why is Pres. Obama blamed for Muslim terrorist activity if that is the case, because the KKK was nothing but a terrorist organization.

    LOL, so it wasn't protestants that owned slaves and I guess those racist in the South were Catholic.
     
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    No, he's being the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that he always is. Did he have his big ramadamadingdong dinner two weeks early? Did he serve non halal food? Was there alcohol served? Did his beard bare her arms or cover her head?
     
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    koranamials do not worship Jehovah. The follow the book of evil that satan instilled in the degenerate mohammed ((*)(*)(*)(*) be upon him) satan got a great deal, look at all his koranimal minions today and all the evil perpetrated in his
    satan's (allah) name.
     
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    I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Perhaps you could try typing it again. This is not legible. I don't know who is blaming Obama for Muslim terrorist activity or what that has to do with anything that I said.


    Did I say that. I imagine some of the slave-owners called themselves Protestants. I don't know what that has to do with the reality of Protestants being at the fore-front of fighting against slavery in this country. Those Protestants that were fighting against slavery were on the right side of that issue. And Protestants today should continue to fight against racism whether it takes the form of the KKK or the racist cult of Black Liberation Theology.
     
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    I really do not find the post of ONE person, (including yours) as an indication of all the rational people's opinion! Religious dogmas are not GOD. If I "offended" some "religious dogmas," I actually don't really care too much. I am at peace with God, who is laughing his head off about this ridiculous hair splitting!

    You are so far off the deep end. . .that I think I'll just terminate this "interesting" conversation.

    Rationality and good will are blind concepts to fanatical people like you.

    Have a wonderful "Chanukkah" in a few days!!!
     
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    He's muslim?
     
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    Ask Sarah Palin she will tell you what I mean, ask Fox News they will tell you what I mean, ask Sean Hannity that coward will tell you what I mean.

    The protestants were the ones that brought slavery to this country. What do you think your Founding Fathers were. Those that wrote laws to cripple black folks were protestants. Those that fought the Civil Rights Movement were Protestants.


    Many of the members of the KKK considered themselves as Protestants. Black Liberation Theology has displayed nowhere near the racism that black folks have experienced from protestant whites in this country.
     
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    yup, she now feels dumb I bet getting out of the race over an affair she had while engaged to Todd.
     
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    yup, the Jews know EXACTLY why evangelicals love Israel. don't be naive about it.
     
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    this coming from guys who put all of their marbles in a plan that Obama would lose because he didn't wear a flag lapel pin.


    THAT was hilarious - how did it work for you?
     

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