Official Thread: Slavery in east Europe/Justice, Compensation, Education

Yes, according to chronicles Danes mostly worked in Britain, Swedes mostly worked in our land etc but theoretically some Danish bands (“guest actors” / “gastroleri “ ) might visit our lands too.

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Yes, according to chronicles Danes mostly worked in Britain, Swedes mostly worked in our land etc but theoretically some Danish bands (“guest actors” / “gastroleri “ ) might visit our lands too.

 

X c. ....when Europe supposed to swim on the filth.... , 3 sides war with 150 000 strong involved. huge cities , military well-educated generals(Roman) tactical and strategical thinking., when discovery start to make "documentaries" about the eastern part of Europe?

 

I doubt the majority of the westerners know about the northern crusades , the crimes committed by the Teutons/Livonian Order and their subsequent refusal to return the land to their rightful owners are bad PR for western christianity .
I wouldn't hold my breath for a documentary .

The Danes were probably selling captives from their raids into slave markets and Arabs had the most coin , so instead of sailing all around Europe they could just follow the river.

 

Vikings in the East is a first hand account and provides more information than Wiki.

 

Pretty cool first hand account of the Vikings.

 

its 13 c, my post was about X c , before separation eastern and western Christianity

Swedes as far as i know

 

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/rurikid/index.aspx?fixed_columns=on

 

As I said ... Vikings of the East is a first hand account... an not judgmental.

We would in fact know little about these Rus, these Norsemen in the East, were it not for Muslim chroniclers. Ibn Fadman, whose 10th-century Risala (Letter) is the richest account of all, kept a journal that details his encounters with the Rus along the Volga, as well as with many other peoples. A few decades later, al-Tartushi, a merchant from Cordoba, described a Danish market town, passing down to us a rare glimpse of the Norsemen in their domestic setting.


Other accounts, such as al Mas'udi's Meadows of Gold, written in 943, and al Mukaddasi's The Best Organization of Knowledge of the Regions, composed after 985, were briefer in their mentions of the Rus, but collectively they were all trailblazers in what was then the flourishing field of Islamic geography, a response to the thirst for knowledge about the vast Islamic Empire and the regions beyond it.

Unlike Europeans, Arab chroniclers bore no grudge against the Rus, and thus the Arab reports are more detached and, in the eyes of many scholars today, more credible.

Most experts acknowledge that the Vikings were, in general, victims of a medieval "bad press," for the military excursions of Charlemagne and other Europeans of the times were no less ruthless than theirs. Yet the Norsemen had only a runic alphabet, suited for no more than inscribing grave-stones and place-markers, and were hardly in a position to set the record straight themselves. Their oral sagas of heroes and gods would not be written down until the 12th century.

http://www.nordicway.com/search/Vikings in the East.htm

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan

Ahmad Ibn Fadlan.

excerpt:

A substantial portion of Ibn Fadlan's account is dedicated to the description of a people he called the Rūs روس or Rūsiyyah. Most scholars identify them with the Rus' or Varangians, which would make Ibn Fadlan's account one of the earliest portrayals of Vikings.

The Rūs appear as traders who set up shop on the river banks nearby the Bolğar camp. They are described as having bodies tall as (date) palm-trees, with blond hair and ruddy skin. They are tattooed from "fingernails to neck" with dark blue or dark green "tree patterns" and other "figures" and that all men are armed with an axe and a long knife.

Ibn Fadlan describes the Rus as "perfect physical specimens" and the hygiene of the Rūsiyyah as disgusting (while also noting with some astonishment that they comb their hair every day) and considers them vulgar and unsophisticated.

In that, his account contrasts with that of the Persian traveler Ibn Rustah, whose impressions of the Rus were more favourable. He also describes in great detail the funeral of one of their chieftains (a ship burial involving human sacrifice). Some scholars believe that it took place in the modern Balymer complex

 

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Moscow Police Crack Sex Trafficking Ring
02 December 2013
RIA Novosti
Police said Monday that they have broken up a trafficking ring in Moscow that forced women from the former Soviet republic of Moldova into sexual slavery.
Six Moldovan women were freed and one 45 year-old Moldovan man arrested as a result of the operation, the police said in a statement.
"After arriving in the Russian Federation, the group put the women in flats or houses in the Moscow region, took their documents and, with threats or beatings, forced them to work as prostitutes," the statement said.
Police said the women were recruited in Moldova, a small landlocked country sandwiched between Ukraine and Romania, with the promise of jobs in Russian cafes and bars. Moldovans do not need visas to enter Russia.
Moldova is the poorest country in Europe, with more than 25 percent of its population living below the poverty line, the World Bank said.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/article/moscow-police-crack-sex-trafficking-ring/490638.html

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Slavery is still alive>

Moscow Police Crack Sex Trafficking Ring
02 December 2013
RIA Novosti
Police said Monday that they have broken up a trafficking ring in Moscow that forced women from the former Soviet republic of Moldova into sexual slavery.
Six Moldovan women were freed and one 45 year-old Moldovan man arrested as a result of the operation, the police said in a statement.
"After arriving in the Russian Federation, the group put the women in flats or houses in the Moscow region, took their documents and, with threats or beatings, forced them to work as prostitutes," the statement said.
Police said the women were recruited in Moldova, a small landlocked country sandwiched between Ukraine and Romania, with the promise of jobs in Russian cafes and bars. Moldovans do not need visas to enter Russia.
Moldova is the poorest country in Europe, with more than 25 percent of its population living below the poverty line, the World Bank said.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/article/moscow-police-crack-sex-trafficking-ring/490638.html