OK Biden/Dem voters what now?

what price controls are republicans willing to support forcing on American businesses?

 

Doing it as an incentive is one thing. Expecting it is quite another. The medical insurance system there seems to expect it. That's not fair to the employer.

 

I don't understand why you even need a for profit health care insurance system, or why anybody would think a FOR PROFIT system could be less expensive.

 

costs were rising 15% a year pre-ObamaCare, it's slowed, we really needed a public option though

 

It's funny how in the US the liberals want a two tiered system, with both private and public options, but here in Canada it's the conservatives who want that and the liberals (and most Canadians) are who balk at the idea of it.

 

They had slowed dramatically and would have taken decades to get to where Obamacare soared them. My deductible went from $2500 to $6000 and out of pocket from $5000 to $15000.

 

So when I prove you incorrect, you move the goalposts and post more rightists kook blog horseshit.

You claimed we no longer export oil and are begging countries for theirs. I proved you wrong with a verifiable link to back my claims. You again come here with more words and your personal feeeeeeeelings. No links, no source. You bring nothing. Why would anyone believe you?

 

Why would anyone think a government run system would be cheaper. Profit drives providing excellent service at a reasonable cost to keep your customers satisfied as we had before the government took it over. Like any other business it service. Would you rather call a government plumber or a guy who owns his own business?

 

My deductible is zero. My premiums also zero. I show my Ontario health card, and I get care. I do have to pay for parking though. That sucks.

 

There was a medical health insurance before then. It wasn't fair to employers to slap wage and price controls on them. Previously if you went to the doctor for a cold or a couple of stitches you paid him about $10. You had major medical through your employer if you broke your arm or needed surgery.

 

Are your taxes zero? Do the doctors all work for free? Do the hospitals all work for free?

 

Because it is not for profit. No profit means lower price. It's done at the actual cost with nobody getting rich off of being an insurance middle man.

No it doesn't. It provides service the insurer can profit off of. They have a profit driven reason to deny you care if they think they can get away with it, and with their lobbyists they can get away with a lot.

I used to do personal injury files at a law firm and it was remarkable how difficult it was to get basic insurance payouts people were clearly entitled to. This was only a thing because legislation says car accident injuries are covered by car insurance before the public healthcare system. I can hardly imagine going through that hell for very single medial expense (absent car accidents).

For profit insurance also has no incentive for coverage to those who need it most.

The guy who runs his own business. Same with doctors. Note that doctors aren't the insurance company.

 

And then employers became expected to provide health insurance, health insurance companies colluded with hospitals, and suddenly an aspirin costs $20. The patients who have insurance don't care, but the employers get stuck with the bill. It's a scam.

 

Nope. Our taxes pay into the system and it costs less overall than your country pays for health care due to economy of size.

 

Some Americans are too selfish to see that a single payer universal health service is in their benefit because they can’t stand seeing someone else being helped who didn’t pay as much as they did.
It’s a story as old as the bible.

 

It actually fits the American mindset well. USA has some of the best health care on earth... For the few who can afford the top end. It has mediocre health care for the majority, who can afford health insurance. And it has poor health care for those who are not well off financially.

Like most things in that country, money means special treatment. Being born rich means an easy privileged life, and a longer life with superior health care. I think it's a nightmare to Americans that everyone could get the same care, rich or poor.

 

I never said that we never export petroleum products. The point is we were energy independent before Biden took office. Now prices are high because his policies, and Biden is begging other countries for oil while he lies about his permitting policies, except when he's talking to an environmental extremist.

Now the you have established the fact the I am useless, why don't you more on and talk to someone who pleases you?

 

I don't think Canada has the number of lay abouts as the U.S. taxpayers already foot the bill for

 

Come now Bro Money amounts means everything in all countries

 

To a large extent yes. Rich eat better food, live in better houses, drive better cars, etc here. But rich get the same medical care as poor here. A homeless guy who gets hit by a car and needs an operation to fix his leg gets the same service as a rich guy who suffers the same. That must be a terrifying thought to rich Americans.

 

Can the poor guy jump a first class flight to a specialist living in another country for some special very expensive treatment

There is a saying here in the states, "Money talks and bullshit walks"

 

Proportionately or total number? Total number probably not, since Canada's entire population number similar to California's.

 

Either way, but keep in mind our poor and dregs poor in from the southern boarder daily! So, keeping acuate number is pretty difficult in the U.S.

 

Yep it ain't free is it and lots of those cost hidden and from what I have read there is a move for more privitzation because of unsatisfactory results as your citizens come here seeking treatments
Hey you like your system you can keep it and we will keep ours as we try to work our way out of Obamacare. In the meantime can we send some of out illegals up there and you can pay for them too alongbwith some of our able bodied poor whobchiise not to work.

 

What now for Biden/Democrat voters?

We got the answer. He's not going to change a thing. Two more years of hyper inflation and many millions of illegal aliens to feed, house, educate and provide with health care.