Omar refuses to condemn stoning of gays

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  1. FlamingLib

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    Have you? OMG!11!
     
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    Well, there you go. So you see why someone on the left would generally avoid him.
     
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    The thing is that she can't avoid this forever.
    she sticks her foot on her mouth whenever she speaks.
     
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    I disagree. It is not some secret that the majority of Muslims agree with Sharia. This however does not mean all Muslims agree with Sharia.. - in fact - many do not. There are "Secular" Muslim nations such as Syria.

    Sharia is an anathema to the founding principles. The ideology that religious belief should be forced on others through physical violence (through Law) is an anathema to the founding principles. If one has no respect for essential liberty - then one does not belong in the US - never mind being a political leader.

    This is a sick and Evil ideology. It is not just evil on the basis of rejection of the founding principles - it is evil on a moral basis.

    As such - we have every right to know Omar's position on Sharia ... in addition - we should also be holding non Muslim politicians feet to the fire on this issue.

    For example: in the abortion debate between Biden and Ryan. Biden said "I am a Catholic - and as such am against Abortion - but, I do not believe in forcing my personal religious beliefs on others"

    Regardless of what one thinks of abortion - the above is in keeping with the founding principles.
     
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    Nonsense

    She is a politician who comments and is commented on
     
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    Not sure - maybe she can. She managed to do an entire election campaign without addressing this issue. We are certainly not going to get clarification on this issue via the Left MSM. Even the right MSM - while they have touched on the issue briefly - have dropped the conversation.

    One of the problems that came up for the right MSM is that the did not know how to post the question properly - they got trapped by using fallacious arguments - Which is exactly why I have been trying to tell you that you need to shoot your arrows straight and pay attention to the arguments I have been making.

    My argument is unassailable - it is not a "religious test". I told you previously that if you were to make some of the arguments you are making in the open - they would get crushed - just as similar arguments when made by the Right MSM got crushed.

    I have been telling you since the beginning of our debate on this that we are on the same side but, that you need to shoot your arrows straight - that your arguments are actually harming the cause - not helping.

    As soon as you link some evil characteristic of some Islamist group to all of Islam - you have lost - regardless of how valid you think this argument is. This is fallacy by definition - it is attributing the actions of one person or group - to people who have nothing to do with those actions. In this case - to people who do not even support the ideology of those that committed those actions.

    The root cause - the EVIL - is the ideology (religious dogma in this case) that believes in forcing religious beliefs on others through Law - Physical violence. This argument can not be legitimately challenged. It is not logical fallacy.
     
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    Not answering questions from a person on the phone is refusing to condemn?
    Seems like a troll thread.
     
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    It isn't a Troll Thread... what is being "Trolled" ? . This is not the first time Omar has avoided the question .. and it is a critical question. If she does not disagree with Sharia then she has no business being in this country - never mind - being a political leader .. FULL STOP.
     
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    She was asked but I wasnt
     
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    Brunei stoning is best stoning.
     
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    I expect she's too busy representing her constituents to bother swatting away a tic like bad faith Shaprio.
     
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    I see you don't get it either.
     
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    I see. Well then, I suppose Omar is in the clear since no-one on the Left will ask her such loaded question - do you support or condemn the stoning of gays? :applause:
     
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    its super entertaining to watch liberals in here that defend gay and trans rights constantly go and try to defend stoning them to death because of religious "freedom".
    WHAT'S IT GONNA BE HUH?
     
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    Omar has been condemned multiple times by her Democratic colleagues for pushing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories used by Nazi Germany and using anti-Semitic tropes. Omar has compared Israel to the world’s leading state sponsor of terrorism in media interviews where she also suggested that Israel should not be allowed to exist as a Jewish state. Omar has suggested that her Jewish colleagues devised a plan to silence her by accusing her of being anti-Semitic and suggesting that Omar was expecting one of her Jewish colleagues to have dual loyalties to Israel. Omar also claimed that pro-Israel groups were paying off U.S. politicians to have dual loyalties to Israel.
     
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    It's simple really - Sharia law and Secular Western law are NOT compatible.
     
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    Who else and when was she asked such a question.
    I often won't answer troll questions.
     
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    Well it is. They already picked up some far right winger who had plans to kill her. And the fuel behind it, is right wing Islamophobic comments about not being loyal to the US because of her faith.
     
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    Well there is much truth behind that. AIPAC simply is a Israeli-Jew group that asks the US to be loyal to the Israeli Jewish cause. It even reads on their website "learn about the power of the AIPAC Community as a leader in the pro-Israel movement." It does NOTHING for the United States. Absolutely nothing. And all this is, is trying to mute the discussion.

    As for Jews paying for elections. Kevin McCarthy claimed that one as well.
     
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    It is not a "Troll" question... either back this claim up or quit making it.

    The problem is that she was not asked this question. I managed to find one other person asking this on a twitter feed - that's it. She avoided the question.

    Lastly - "what is your problem" ? Are you now in favor of forcing religious beliefs on others through law. Have you become a raging pro life advocate ? - think that it is OK for the religious right to make abortion law on the basis of religious belief ?

    I know you believe otherwise so .. what is up with that ?
     
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    I never heard of a politician that ee are not allowed to criticize

    That makes her one of a kind
     
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    She did have time to criticize the inhumane treatment of immigrants in the U.S., and also the threat of white nationalism, since the Brunei story came about.

    It's almost as if she's not allowed to criticize one thing, but encouraged to criticize the other.
     
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    She can get away with a lot because of the stigma of islamophobia,
    a word that long ago out used it's usefulness.
    Like saying something is racist, it's been burnt out.
    But people are still afraid to go there,
    Well now she has built up a lot of unanswered, and wrongly put statements, that are going to come back to haunt her.
    Like I said earlier, I hope she is aroung
    d for a while to rack up more points,
    Because when the sh-t hits the fan, it will open people eyes to the nature of Islam.
     
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    Well so far you far right wingers are putting words in her mouth as refuses to condemn the stoning of gays. While the fact is, that she refuses to talk to a Islamophobic news site. Have you looked up what Ilham Omar's points are on LGBT rights? It's freaking mentioned on wikipedia! lol
     
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    It's more relevant than ever.
     
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