One in five Covid-19 cases in US now from Florida: ‘This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated’

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    YOU sir are the one who injected CT into this thread, not I.

    For the second time for the obtuse, I am commenting on the human behavior aspect of elements described in the thread.
     
  2. AKS

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    You sound like a canadian. Taxpayers don't take care of me.
     
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  3. Zorro

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    You claim in the OP title is completely falsified.
    Your claim: "One in five COVID cases now in Florida"
    The Facts: "One in Twenty Nine COVID cases are now in Florida. That's a solid performance given that 1 in 16 Americans live in Florida.

    All this angst over Florida seems contrived given that they are underrepresented compared to their population by nearly half.

    CA on the other hand, has one-in-three COVID cases, despite having only one-in-eight of the population. They are overrepresented by nearly 3-to-in.

    So you have a Blue State vastly overrepresented in COVID cases that you don't say anything about, and a Red State that is under represented by nearly half, that you never shut up about.

    One's Blue and one's Red. Do you think your attempts to politicise everything go unnoticed? Is there truly no part of you that does not see through the fake news that is spoon fed you on a daily basis?
     
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  4. AKS

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    Crazy "logic".
     
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  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! Read again! This time, focus on what you read.

    I have no idea how vaccination and preventive measures have been handled in other states. This thread is about Florida. Here they have been horrible. And the result is that we have reached the point in which 15% to 20%+ of the cases (all the days I have checked) are in Florida. Far more than any other state. Even ones with more population density (which is what would affect the numbers). And considering the fact that this is a subtropical state, in which most activities involving large groups are outdoors (which means we should be compared more to Hawaii than anybody else)... that's a clear sign of how poorly this governor and this congress have managed the crisis.
     
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    I had the virus in January so I see no reason at all to take an "emergency" experimental vaccine. I'm not any more likely to catch and spread covid than someone who has had the shot. screw all you pos authoritarians. Let people make their own decisions.
     
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  7. Zorro

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    Fake News. Your title is falsified. 1/29 cases is now from Florida, not 1/5 as you claim. You attempts to "explain this" leave you in a deeper hole. Now you claim this claim is only about Florida, but, that falsifies your title even further. If this is "only about Florida" ALL of Florida's cases are from Florida!
    CA has 1/3 cases, the vast majority of which are in Southern CA, which is also a very sunny lots of outdoors, state. Florida has only 1/29 cases or CA has nearly 1000% more active cases with only 46% more population.
    Certainly true of CA, the inverse, of course, applies to the outstanding job being completed by Gov DeSantis and the incredible FL Legislature.

    Hat's off, you should be quite proud!
     
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  8. Golem

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    Do your math again. From YOUR link,

    Total new cases in the U.S. yesterday: +56,525
    Total new cases in Florida yesterday: +8,988

    That's about... 16% Maybe a big improvement from day before yesterday (assuming it's not because other states with lousy policies are just catching up), but not falsified. And most definitely not good. Still the worst in the nation.

    It's YOUR link. Maybe you should have stuck to wingnut conspiracy pages. I'm sure you can find one that says... whatever it is you want to hear. But webpages based on reality are only going to produce real numbers.
     
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  9. Zorro

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    That's a single day. You can't make predictions based on 1 day of data. Do you know how many counties don't get their numbers in daily? Then when they do post, the previous posts for the days they miss are update.
    So now you are retrenching and claiming your declarative statement was a prediction? COVID resolves in 3 weeks, you posted your claim on 7/16. 3 weeks will be 8/6, a mere 15 days from now. 7 days in, the US has 5,063,359 active cases, with 174,788 in Florida. If the US active case level remains constant, FL's active case rate would have to rise to 1,011,753 or an increase of 836,965 at some point over the next 15 days. At the new daily case rate you posted, well get your calculator out, it's never going to happen.
    Exactly right. Your title is falsified. Florida has never had 20% of the active cases and there is no reason, other than your political wish-casting to ever believe they will. Facts Falsify False Predictions.

    Now if you want to see a State with a LOT of the national cases, look no further than CA. with 34.26% of the nation's active cases.
     
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  10. truth and justice

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    The OP is about recent daily cases hence why it states "In fact, just four states accounted for more than 40 per cent of all cases in the past week,” Mr Zients said.
     
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    Huh? What "predictions" are you talking about?

    Don't worry about answering that question. The fact that you abandoned your attempts to prove the OP wrong, and now shift to "predictions", is good enough for me.

    Now... if you wanted 7 day averages, I couldn't find any in the webpage you cited.

    Here is from the CDC

    US 7 Day average new cases (on July 16): 29,705
    FL 7 Day average new cases (on July 16): 6,490
    That's 21.8%

    I use July 16, because that's when I started this thread. But if you want more up to date, the latest 7 day average right now is from July 20

    US 7 Day average new cases (on July 20): 46,318
    FL 7 Day average new cases (on July 20): 8,988
    Which is 19.4%

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases

    BTW, if your problem with the title is math, 1 in every 5 means 20%

    So the OP is proven correct. Now, if at any point you feel the need to go full-nuclear QAnon, and explain reality away with some conspiracy theory, please spare us.
     
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  12. cd8ed

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    Ah so you are not on social security? You don’t have the US military defending the nation? You don’t have doctors and other professionals that were subsidized by the state or government? Don’t drive on roads paid for by the government via the people?

    I wish I was a Canadian. Want to donate to my citizenship fund?
     
  13. Zorro

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    Your title is wrong because you claim that 1 in 5 cases in the US are in FL and they are not, FL only has 1 in 29.

    You then attempted to protect your claim from falsification by claiming it was merely one days worth of data (which you have since expanded to a week) that is meaningless unless you are predicting that FL will rise to 1 in 5 cases, which it is showing no indication of.
    Your OP is wrong. 1/29 =/= to 1/5.
    I'm aware of that. The COVID case life cycle is 3 weeks. Your claim in the topic title was false when you posted it and there is no evidence that it will be true at any time between now and Aug 6, which will be 3 weeks after your claim.
    No it isn't. FL has 1/29 not 1/5.
    Now you are making no sense at all. Try to stick with facts and data.
     
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  14. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:
    WRONG!

    Too bad that you wasted all that bandwith to prove yourself wrong...
    Better luck next time...
     
  15. AKS

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    Is this tripe the purposely disingenuous? I pay for my f**king medical. Is that clear enough?
     
  16. Golem

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    It's not my claim. It's the claim of the CDC.... You know... the Evil Deep State that is trying to make this world a haven for communist pedophile cannibals...

    You should at least get your conspiracy theory straight!
     
  17. Zorro

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    Do try to stick to facts and data rather than this silliness.
    Your attribution of your own mental construction to me makes no more sense than your claim that 1/29th = 1/5th or that unauthorized = authorized.
     
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    I noticed you didn’t answer the question.
    Which likely means taxpayers do indeed take care of you.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Government cannot demand everyone to be vaccinated just like they can't force abortions. Desantis just stands for the liberty the "elite" rejects.
    By the way..... if concerned about the Pandemic, why does the "woke" not question the multitudes of infected unvaccinated allowed entrance through the southern border and transported through out the interior?
     
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    Taxpayers don't support me vis a vis my healthcare. We are talking healthcare right? Or was your intention only to obfuscate?
     
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    That isn’t what you said however, you said “Taxpayers don't take care of me”. I didn’t see the qualifier of ‘in regards to healthcare only’.

    Perhaps you misspoke?
     
  22. Golem

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    They can't force abortions. They could force vaccination of people who want to travel, who want to work for the government, who want to work for a company that works for the government, ...

    Yeah! We should vaccinate them!
     
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    Or turn their asses around instead? Far easier, cheaper and less illegals using our resources, clogging our roads, schools, stealing, murdering and making more illegal babies.
     
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    Ya, if only rich white American people would just quit hiring them they would have no reason to come here.....
     
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    China forces abortions.....so I guess an all powerful government could force vaccinations! Now I do believe private entities should have the right to require vaccinations. That is in step with the idea of individual liberty.....but I believe they would do so to their own demise. What about the large number of those already naturally immune? What about the young mother that wants to conceive a child? What about children who most often never get serious complications? Why shouldn't there be "choice" in this instance? Government just seems they want to control every aspect of human activity and want us as a nation to get used to it. I will never!

    On the other comment.....I am overjoyed that you at least express concern that illegal invaders should be vaccinated. I fear the government doesn't want to do that. Never let a crisis go to waste! They need this Pandemic to raise it's ugly head again for more control. I have an idea!!! Seal the border. Send all those illegal entries back to their homeland with the warning "if you do it again you will get five years of hard labor cleaning up our forests"! I know that will be a tall order but Creepy Joe made it a tall order with the stroke of a pen!
     
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