#OperationSavingDemocracy- A political ad by some military members pretending its noble.

https://twitter.com/lawrenceluksha/status/1704242006745108825

This is a political ad, let me repeat that: This is nothing more or less than a political ad, specifically against Donald Trump but it's not for anybody either. It thereby adds nothing to the discourse, other than taking a shot at one particular nominee over the other.

There is also something ironic about claiming that you save democracy, just because someone doesn't win the election. The whole point of democracy[supposedly anyway] is that everyone participates, the results are respected, etc. It is not democracy just because you win or lose. This goes for Trump as it goes for everyone else.

Insert this in the folder "American gutter file of politics, 2024"

 

Electing a guy who doesn’t believe in honoring election results is bad for democracy. Seems obvious….

 

Equally as bad as taking out an ad and advertising their past service to this country as a reason, or the reason not to vote for one individual candidate. They didn't even bother to endorse or talk about another candidate.

I've mentioned previously that under no circumstances will Trump get my vote for 2024, but this is equally in bad taste.

 

Putting a guy in office who cheated to get there is even worse.

Don’t you think it’s odd that military people would ignore an invasion of this country?

 

IF the shoe was on the RIGHT foot and a "lefty" criticized it, you would be hollering to the heavens about "FREE SPEECH"; which it is. IMHO it can never be said enough what a danger TRAITOR tRump is to These United States. That, in and of it's self, is a political message that needs to be driven home at every opportunity.

"I will continue to defend my country to my last breath"

You're criticizing that?

Natch

 

I would "think it’s odd that military people would ignore an invasion of this" Countries Capitol.

 

What danger are you talking about? Be specific. Certainly you don't mean an invasion from the south, more wars, faltering economy, a growing China, etc. So what dangers are you speaking of?

 

I was specific:
"IMHO it can never be said enough what a danger TRAITOR tRump is to These United States."

Before you knee jerk a reply you should at least read, and comprehend, the post you're replying to.

 

Traitor? You constantly say that but offer no proof. What treason was he convicted of? The real traitor is being investigated right now. How many countries have Biden in their pocket besides China?

 

I guess you are going to have to deal with someone's free speech.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fine-top-us-military-officer-confident-jan-6/story?id=103253206
wrote a resignation letter in which he castigated Trump as "doing great and irreparable harm to my country."

Now when juxtaposing the words of Gen Milley with any MAGA, his words carry far more weight. I assure you, if Sen McCain were still alive, this issue would have been far more animated against Trump.

As far as respecting the results, you were not one of them. !!!!

 

in 2016 the republicans ran anti-hillary adds by the thousands in markets all over the country. All due respect AN, but thats literally what lost Hillary the election in 2016 (that and the russian social media campaigns). The entirety of 2016 was anti-Hillary.

 

No - they are exercising their first amendment rights. And taking out an ad against a candidate is just as much an exercise in democracy as supporting a candidate. And that is leaving aside the fact that the candidate they are opposing has tried to eliminate American democracy by refusing to accept the result of an election.

 

OH? So, a "real traitor is being investigated", but has not be indicted, and my never be. I think I'll set aside your whatAbout until something substantive is proven.

I believe TRAITOR tRump's multi-faceted attack on our nation, to keep himself in power, for which he HAS been indicted, nearly 100 times; makes him a TRAITOR, a danger to our country and an existential threat to every freedom loving American.

 

The law doesn’t allow them to endorse one.

 

I agree, which is how trump tried to stay in power. Luckily he failed.
Military people would not ignore an invasion.

 

So, its from a political action committee by veterans. Not a single one is an active, reserve, or national guard member currently. So, they used their first amendment. I don't see the problem. They literally are saying that said "to protect and defend the Constitution and not the man." And you have a problem with that? Aye Currumbra.

 

1st amendment right, is it not? Whether you agree with the ad or not is moot. The fact is that this is a political ad, and falls under the first amendment. I will say this with ANY political ad out there, and I do mean any political ad.

I am not saying I agree with the ad or not, but the argument you are presenting is goes against the founding father wishes on first amendment rights, politically speaking. It may not be popular, it may not agree with your politics specifically, but it is well within the law.

Look, anyone can claim the election results are wrong. Kari Lake did it. Hillary Clinton did it, and a few others. But none went to the effort that Trump did per the evidence on the Atlanta indictment. None whatsoever. That stopped being protected free speech to violating law specifically, in the State of Georgia.

 

I don't have a problem with their vague message. Except in A: it's doomersday style messaging and B: Offering nothing to the table in said ad. Even if by law they couldn't endorse a candidate, they could talk about for example, the kind of qualities a candidate should have. Or something, anything.

This was basically ''Donald Trump is a really bad person'' ad. And frankly, it's useless to the voters.

 

Since Biden has no accomplishments to run on he will run an anti-Trump campaign.

 

Actually he has many accomplishments, not the least of which was repairing relationships with our allies, that TRAITOR tRump nearly ruined. And he has tried to heal the divisions at home even though healing is the last thing MAGrates want.

AND he can go full bore on anti-TRAITOR tRump issues. Which are the gift that keeps on giving!

 

Doomsday messaging such as "if you elect Biden your retirement account will disappear," the Democrats are here to take away your guns, and so forth. It is a typical style of political messaging. Even Trump did this with his immigration speech on the summer of 2015 about Mexican nationals who are coming here are murderers, drug pushers, rapists, and so forth, but a few might be acceptable but I don't know. That too was doomsday, specifically aimed at Democrats and the current immigration system. And yet, most people on the right fell for that. But in the end, it is protected under free speech.

Me personally, I don't pay any attention to political ads in my decision making on who to vote for. But I am the exception, not the rule by the voting public,.

 

All Biden’s accomplishments are showing up in states on the midnight express looking for government hand outs.

 

That’s right wing pablum and, its horseshit!

 

Well, that alone would make it a patriotic political ad.
Anything or anyone who can get the orange albatross off of America’s neck is a patriot. The repubs are too afraid, so the rest of us have to do their job.

 

Lol…stop parroting trump’s big lie.