#OperationSavingDemocracy- A political ad by some military members pretending its noble.

Certainly not. Too much power is dangerous. I would reduce power to an absolute minimum.

 

Sorry, filling out forged electoral certificates is ILLEGAL, try reading the GA and MI indictments.

Attempting to coerce an elected official to violate their oath is ILLEGAL, try reading the GA indicment.

 

Then we agree democracy can be bad for democracy.

 

Maybe the people themselves, don't want to be a democracy[Germany was an empire, before the treaty of Versallies, and in many ways Germany was the inverse example of Japan, where we successfully transformed Japan into a democracy. A significant part of that, was allowing the Japanese to keep their emperor. But in 1919, basically all of Germany's prior institutions was transformed overnight. This upset many Germans, not just the funny guy with the mustache. He was the loudest one about it.]

The real history lesson is that if you're gonna do regime change, make it acceptable to the people whose regime you're trying to change. That's the best way to avoid funny guys with mustaches.

 

Government power is the killer, so I suppose voting for more of it can be bad for democracy. Fair enough.

 

Ignorance runs rampant on the Left and on the Right. We all fail to recognize that Donald Trump and Joe Biden are the results of our votes and that leaves it our responsibility for electing these men. Our nation is more divided than ever and this started with Obama and has only gotten worse under Trump and Biden. Neither one is the solution for this country. If you think otherwise, refer to my first sentence.

 

It didn't start with Obama. It may have started while Obama was President but the divide came from the right, not the left.

It started with McConnell saying that his #1 goal was "to make Obama a one term President"
It continued with McConnell stating that he was going to refuse to hold hearings on Obama's Supreme Court nominee before the nominee had been announced saying that it was an election year and that the American people should have a say in the selecting the next justice only to turn around 4 years later and fast track Trump's nominee barely one month before the election.

You want to look at someone to blame for the division in this country, you can start with Mitch McConnell.

 

Agree. We need to have better candidates.
My favs NOT running: John Kasich, Amy Klobuchar, Adam Kinzinger
Favs running: (in this order) Nikki Haley, Mike Pence (haven't always liked him, but I do feel he would do the right things for our country, and he seems honest), Asa Hutchinson.
Christie gets an honorable mention, but he's too volatile.
We need stability and someone who will bring this country back together. Biden isn't doing much to divide necessarily, but is getting too old and he seems to have lurched left of late.
Anyway, that's my opinion, for what it's worth...........

 

It started with Obama. He was the first to attack the police when he had no clue what he was talking about. Ignorance isn't an excuse to later say I am sorry and have a beer with the police officer for political gain. It began that day and the Obama's spoke about racism without leading the country on the topic. You can unite or you can divide. They divided and still do to this day. Harry Reid was the first to initiate the nuclear option in the Senate under the Obama administration. But you blame McConnell and ignore the truth. The Dems play dirty and you sing their praises while condemning the Reps for the same type of dirty politics. There is a word for that. And I say it is all dirty politics. Of course, we see Garland as the AG and how bad that is, so thank you Mitch for playing dirty politics on that one.

It started with the Obama administration, as I said.

 

Larry Hogan, Republican governor for two terms in a very blue state of Maryland. Republicans would mostly call him a RINO. I see him as a centrist.

 

I don't know much about him, but I will look further! Thanks!
I did see where he was considering running as an independent with Sen Manchin. I think the time is right for a third party candidate, as that pairing could appeal to many independent voters.

 

Did a little reading up on him and I like him! I always like someone who was governor of a state as president, as they had to learn how to work with a legislature to get things done, and it seems like he did well at that. I don't mind a lean left or right, as long as it's only a lean!

 

The only way we get back to cooperation is to meet in the center. Nobody in Washington wants to meet in the center. We are seeing that today as a Government shutdown looms. We saw that when Obama and left drew up the Affordable Care Act locking the right out of those discussions because the left refused to meet in the middle and so did the right, I expect. The same thing Biden does when he tells us all that gas appliances and gasoline cars are done. That is extremism.

 

I wouldn't say "Nobody" wants to meet in the middle. Unfortunately it's the loudmouths that get most of the media attention, and us, the consumers and voters who keep supporting the extremism. I agree that extremism is a problem, but until the consumers and voters respond in a way that demotes extremism, it won't change.
Regarding the ACA, I remember Obama wanting the Republicans to help, but most absolutely refused to do anything, because they were dedicated as soon as he was elected to make anything he did fail, so he would be a one term president, in their words. Not saying there aren't examples of uncooperativeness by Democrats, but I was paying a lot of attention around then and the Republicans were absolutely (many, not all) against any kind of cooperation.

 

I do not remember Obama wanting the Republicans to help any more than Biden wants the Republicans to help or Trump wanted help from the Democrats on anything. Of course, I also don't disagree that the Republicans did not want to help. That being said, it is a less than successful piece of legislation when the Dems controlled the legislature and the executive administration. It needed bi-partisan support to be successful. There is nearly no such thing these days. And there are many examples of Trump and Biden skirting the law with Executive Orders that should be called into question.

Reality is, if we study history closely, I don't think our legislature has met in the middle as much as we may want to think they have. At least not as much as I want to think they have.

 

It is a GREAT “ad” even though it is the brainchild of republicans ……. –– REAL conservatives. Try dealing with the facts in it.

 

He is an existential threat. To save the America of the Constitution he needs to be put in prison as fast as possible.

 

…which is why Trump must not be in office again.

 

They wouldn’t unless a traitor like Trump told them, as “president”, to stand down.

 

Anyone who needs proof at this point is either hopelessly brainwashed or asleep and didn’t get woke by mommy.

 

Too fricking funny.... While it's not my favorite political ad of all time (by a long distance), it's also nowhere near the "American gutter file of politics" either...

 

Yep, anything to water it down.

 

Who TF told you THAT??????

 

Unlike you, I make my own observations. Dont need anyone to tell me what to believe.

 

Trump didnt forge any electoral certificates and the alternate electors had no effect.