#OperationSavingDemocracy- A political ad by some military members pretending its noble.

What 'allies', the European Union wants to use us for their expense, and we sure enough got right back in line with that relationship. That's not an alliance, an alliance to me is mutually beneficial. Our benefit to the European Union is clear as day, what of their benefit to us? There is none, hence the fall back on 'norms' and the 'institutions' because there is nothing actually material they could show the people. If there was, they'd be able to scream it to the mountaintops in their battle against the nativists.

Quote/unquote 'repairing our relationship with our allies' was getting back in line with them, ANYONE not just Joe Biden could've put the US back into a submissive position.

 

yes, Trump should be disqualified from future elections for trying to steal the 2020 election

 

Neither side can win an election with just their base. This add is for true independents who are undecided.

 

The best kind!

Not by TRAITOR tRump.

TRAITOR tRump would disagree.

Those people put their lives on the line so you could sit at your desk and criticize them. If you think this will be the only criticism of TRAITOR tRump during the 2024 campaign ... you're going to need a big file cabinet, maybe two or three. I don't "x" so keep bringing them to our attention as things heat up I'll make sure everyone I know sees them.

 

You know as much about foreign relations as you do law as you do politics.

Nothing.

BUT! Thanks for bring the "add" to my attention, I'll make sure all my friends see it.

 

So democracy is bad for democracy?

 

And he will get elected.

Biden was the weakest of all the Dem candidates in 2020, yet he still beat Trump. Trump cannot get elected, and the real repubs know that. They also know that their party will nominate him, and they will loose to any democratic candidate.

 

I would say he was the most electable in the national election, partly because he was universally liked by the middle of the roaders. I thought Buttigieg (sp?) was the weakest. I personally liked Klobuchar of that bunch, but apparently she was too boring for the primary voters, and maybe too unknown up against an incumbent.

 

What treason was Biden convicted of?

 

January 20, 2020 saw the peaceful transfer of power in DC. January 20, 2016 saw widespread violence in DC. Trump being elected in 2024 would be THE OPERATION of democracy. Laughable how the democrats can be convinced that it would be a threat to democracy.

 

Are we now pretending he didn’t lose and still tried to stay in power? Is that really what you’re doing?

 

He disputed the results. Occurs all the time.

 

And tried to have pence ignore the results and crown the loser. Did you forget that?

 

It's been their game plan all along.

 

He disputed the results and when he was told his disputes were meritless he tried to illegally overturn the election.

 

Jan 20 2020 saw the peaceful transfer of power. Unlike Jan 20, 2016 that saw widespread violence in DC. Because Trump honored the results. The 2020 election was illegitimate based simply on all the illegal changes to election laws made by governors and courts in the name of COVID.

 

Highlighted in red: That has to be the joke of the year! He still to this date has not honored the results. Nor have you or many other Trump supporters.
Some things are subject to opinion, but that statement about Trump is so wrong, even Trump wouldn't agree with it.

 

???? He left office January 20. What kind of "honor' are you looking for? Hillary still claims the 2016 election of Trump was illegitimate.

 

He wanted Pence to dispute the results. Putting the decision of the outcome into the House of Representatives as it has occurred half a dozen times in our history.

 

Illegal according to who? Which court found elections were conducted illegally?

 

No he tried to legally overturn the outcome.

 

Ok, if you're are talking about that one day of Jan 20th, he was just a butthole about firing all the White House staff. I was disputing that what you said: "Because Trump honored the results", because he never honored the results, on, before or since Jan 20, 2020.
Hillary has nothing to do with the conversation unless used as a distraction, which usually indicates a lack of reasonable response.
I was/do look for the honoring the results, and admitting defeat and congratulating the winner, and wishing them the best, which we should all do after each election.
I don't care who else didn't do it, we were discussing Trump's actions and words.

 

We will see. He has been indicted so if he is convicted you will have to change your tune.

 

Can be. Would you say electing the Nazi party was good for democracy in Germany?

 

Because you don't find an ad persuasive, or like the opinion, does not make it bad for democracy, or even "gutter" politics. Rather, sharing a particular view, is called exercising one's free speech. Arguing that one particular candidate is a bad choice, is certainly nothing new, or prohibited, or even unusual. We will almost certainly see anti-Biden ads, probably making unsupported insinuations in reference to "Hunter's laptop," and quoting irresponsible, political bomb throwers on the Right, such as Green Acres' James Comer, about the "Biden Crime Family"-- if those haven't come out, already! Will you object to these? Did you have a problem with ads against John Kerry, by the Swift Boat Captains? People who are fine with the same tactics, from their side, as they cast as anti-democratic, when employed against their side, exhibit a rather poor grasp of democracy, or are at least manifesting a non-receptive attitude toward it.