Opinion: The problem with Trump’s indictment

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us

WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol accused former President Donald J. Trump on Monday of inciting insurrection, conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction of an act of Congress and one other federal crime as it referred him to the Justice Department for potential prosecution.

The action, the first time in American history that Congress has referred a former president for criminal prosecution, is the coda to the committee’s 18-month investigation into Mr. Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election that culminated in a violent mob of the former president’s supporters laying siege to the Capitol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/19/us/politics/jan-6-trump-criminal-justice-dept.html

 

That doesn't say anything about "defrauding voters"...

18 U.S.C. § 371—CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES

 

Semantics.

 

So you think he should be killed, but you hold no bias.
Just wow

 

No, words have meanings...lol.

Like these words...

"To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money, but it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest. It is not necessary that the Government shall be subjected to property or pecuniary loss by the fraud, but only that its legitimate official action and purpose shall be defeated by misrepresentation, chicane or the overreaching of those charged with carrying out the governmental intention."

Nothing about defrauding voters in there... LMAO

 

The FBI should hear about that post.

 

Hahahaha….you claim there was statute of limitations in this instance yet you’ve not proven it was applicable in this case. I’ll give you another chance to prove your case.

 

The FBI coming to Trumps aid?
Which is why these people are so comfortable making claims like that.

 

Conspiracy to defraud the United States
This crime entails "two or more persons conspiring either to commit any offence against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof".

The committee believes Mr Trump worked with others to impede the function of the US government and mislead the public about the results of the 2020 election.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64034782

My reference to voters was clearly too narrow as the statute covers all Americans.......including those who vote.

 

You didn't understand his post.

Semantics.

What he means is, they don't have to show you information of what the statute says. They prosecute under what they think the statute should say.

 

And you claim there isn't........................I am more than happy to let you publicly state that as a fact.

 

YOU were the one who claimed statute of limitations ran out so it’s upon YOU to prove your claim. So far you haven’t. Is that because you are unable to prove it? Should be easy for you to prove, no? I’ll give you yet another chance to prove YOUR claim.

 

That don't have a damn thing to do with the New York kangaroo court... LMAO

By your logic, the Russia collusion hoax was defrauding The United States. How many elected officials said Trump wasn't legitimately elected? That's definitely misleading.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

The problem with Trump’s indictment.

Is that it doesn't charge a crime that hasn't passed its statute of limitations. It isn't about crime. It is about politics. A "crime" has nothing to do with it.

 

Just watch TV. There are lawyers on there explaining that his accounting entry "crime" has a two year limitation. You do believe lawyers, don't you? Perhaps you should provide proof that a lawyer can't be trusted to explain the limitation on that crime? Why so confused. This isn't about crime and justice. It is about politics and the 2024 election. That couldn't be more obvious.

 

Incidentally a poll that I saw on TV said that 75% of respondents said that the indictment was not a good thing. 11% (that's your group) said it was. The rest didn't know. Cave dwellers one would assume.

 

Everything in politics is a lie to one side of the aisle. Yawn.

 

I don't have to prove a fundamental fact about the entire story, one on which it hinges and I enjoy watching you say here in public for all to read it is not true showing how much you know about this entire matter. It should be easy for you to look it up yourself being the entire premise of what Bragg is trying to do and why throughout the indictment it speaks of "other crimes".

In fact if none of your news sources mentioned to you that the statute of limitations on the business record entry, a misdemeanor, ran out after two years and that was FIVE years ago I would urge you to find some better news sources.