No whining by me. But geez, there sure is a hard-on in some corners against the SEC. I have no issue with the SEC and I'm a Big 10 guy. In fact, in my last post in this thread this morning, I think Alabama looks the best of all teams right now. So I guess I need to start poking and prodding you again. You passed on my OSU vs Bama wager proposal on another site in the Final 4 last year. Any chance you'd bite on it this year, if they end up playing each other? C'mon milo. Lets have some fun with this.
Success breeds contempt. As for the rankings, OSU should be the top ranked team right now. Not because I think they are better, but because no one has proven any different. They won the title last year and until someone takes it from them, they are the top dog. Clemson looks like the most complete team in the country right now, but honestly, who really wants to face the Bama defense in the play-offs? Their defensive front line is eight deep and all eight will probably play in the NFL. Mississippi State had one sack on the starting QB before Saturday. Now they have ten. The weakness of the Bama squad is at QB. I still don't have confidence on Coker and with Kenyon Drake being out three or more weeks, Henry will have to carry a heavy load.
while I agree with that... undefeated didn't help FSU out last year. we had multiple 1 loss teams ahead of undefeated FSU during the playoffs last year. It's bullcrap. Preseason polls are garbage too. Use Auburn this year as an example. 5 losses last year, somehow, starts at #8 this season. Has 5 losses at this point this year with 2 more games to go... But dag-nabbit, LSU sure gets to claim them as a quality win because when they faced them, AU was #12. Bama looks great, right up until they have to play a quality team from out of conference, then we realize, they aren't head and shoulders above the rest of the field like ESPN would have you think. A 3 loss Ole Miss beat them. To me, Clemson looks the best, too. OK SU looks good too. And I hate to say it, so does Notre Dame. a 2 point loss to Clemson where weather affected the game. Who knows what a sugarbowl dome in 74* weather conditions results in between the two. Of Course, ND got DAMN lucky against Virginia Tech with 20 seconds left in the game.
So Wisconsin is not a quality team? As for the three losses, it happens. These guys are still kids and kids are unpredictable. Some teams, once they know they are out of the running, they just don't play as hard in my opinion. Auburn is a much better team than their record shows, but they seem to have given up for the most part. Arkansas on the other hand, are playing their ass off.
SEC marks defending the SEC in 3..2..1... Yeah, Jack State showed how good AU really is Ark is always built up at the end of the year. They lose to teams like Toledo all year, and then expose LSU late and everyone wants to go on and on about how they are the greatest 6 loss team out there. Just like last year. This helps teams like Bama make a case for getting in the playoffs with one loss, over other 1 loss teams. Last year, SECFinebaum was bashing FSU about beating a 6-5 Boston College with a last second field goal. Danny Kannell Jumped in and pointed out how Bama beat a 6-5 Arkansas by 1 point and asked why that 6-5 team was a quality win, while FSU's 6-5 team was not. #BecauseSEC is not an answer that College football fans will accept anymore.... especially after the ACC swept the SEC east in November, and the rest of the country took care of the SEC West
Milo..... Is Alabama's win against Savannah St a quality win? Ooops.....wrong season. Nobody else here is gonna get the inside joke.
As someone who played at Jacksonville State, I actually follow the team. Perhaps you should look at their record and where they are in the rankings. Sure they are a smaller school, but they are very good. Not that Auburn should have had so much trouble with them of course. - - - Updated - - - Na, but the win against Charleston Southern this weekend should be.
I don't know where you got TCU from, most of the major polls have Clemson, Ohio State and Alabama as the top three. The fourth spot depending on the poll would belong to Notre Dame or Oklahoma State. Georgia Tech, my team is going nowhere this year, 3-7.
Weren't they in Troy's division? or were they simply Troy's main rival. Troy is Sunbelt, right? Either way.... it's a different level ball they play. Nothing wrong with it, but there is no way they should be on AU's level, ever... and a bad play call on that final drive in regulation is what allowed AU to tie it up and send it to OT. There are players on that AU team that played in a National title game, and now they are struggling to beat Jack State. Even had that been the one game they struggled in, because lets face it, every team, even the eventual national champs of a season, always have at least one major scare, that still doesn't excuse 5 losses to mediocre teams at best. They will be bowl eligible because AU has Idaho this week.
I don't want to speak for Paul, but the post you've quoted from him is his OP from back in August. At that time, TCU was ranked in the top 3.
Yeah, after I made my comments I notice it was an old thread. Too late then. I have made that same mistake several times, not looking at the original date of the thread thinking they were talking about something today when it was 6 months and even in one case 3 years ago. How all these old threads keep popping up as new beats me. One would think I would learn to look at the dates, but apparently I haven't.
Troy is an FBS school, not FCS like J'Ville State. Some of these smaller schools have players who originally went the FBS school and for whatever reason, transferred out. A lot of NFL players come out of these small schools as well. As being on the same level, I agree. They shouldn't be playing these teams, but that's the current system. The FBS school needs the "off" week to heal and rest and the FCS school needs the cash these games bring.
troy bumped up, didn't they? either way, I agree with the small schools playing big schools is fine... it's a season sustaining payday for a team like Idaho to play @FSU like they did in 13, @UF in 14, @AU in 15.... And every once in a while, they pull off the big win....
True, but it's usually a beat down. LOL I went to grad school at University of Pacific(there was a football team then), Over the couple of years, we played Auburn and Nebraska. The games were always like 70-0. But at least Pacific got PAID!! And the kids got to play in front of a large crowd. Stagg Stadium only holds about 25,000 people.
Yeah, I went to the FSU/Idaho game. I think we scored 80. When Idaho played UF last year, there was a huge storm delay. THey finally kicked off, and UF ran the kickoff back for a TD, and then lightning started again and they called the game. UF still payed them the money and they never made up the game. But no doubt, Idaho has had 3 HUGE paydays over the past 3 seasons. As a fan of the sport..... small schools need that so they can continue to play and offer football scholarships to kids that normally wouldn't get anything from the major schools.
BrianBoo and I have discussed this issue of large schools paying the small schools for a week off practice session. Like you, I think it helps the smaller school's athletic program survive, Boo thinks they shouldn't play against each other at all.
that hurts small schools. But with the ever increasing pressure on big schools to play quality opponents... especially the elite teams that are trying to get into the playoffs with one loss somewhere.... you will see teams get away from it more and more. FSU plays Charleston Southern next year, but also has Ole Miss, next season. And Bama after that. Not to mention it's yearly game with out of conference UF. LSU has one less game this year because their cream puff game got cancelled for whatever reason.
True. We will see it with some conferences more than others. The SEC schools will continue to schedule the "off week" schools, because of the perceived difficulty of their conference schedule. Some of the other Power 5 conferences will move away from doing so as they need the "strength of schedule" more to aid their playoff chances. Ironically, I see this as being a great benefit to the SEC. They have more games to play their younger players and have less wear and tear on the starters. But I still don't like seeing the Georgia States and Charleston Southerns on the 'Bama schedule.
yep, Danny Kannell called them out on that "the bowl selcetion committee has sent a clear message, out of conference strength is important.... unless you are the SEC" lol
What? Milo says these teams shouldn't play each other, after you fought me tooth and nail years ago over Savannah St vs the big boys?
I saw this meme yesterday, and laughed out loud. I can't find the meme, but here's what I remember of it.... Reason for their rankings 1 Clemson 10-0 - Because lets face it, now it will be even funnier when they "Clemson" 2 Alabama 9-1 It's in their contract with ESPN to be in the playoffs 3 Ohio State 10-0 They've had so many cupcakes, they have diabetes 4 Notre Dame 9-1 somehow, Lou Holtz is responsible for this 5 Iowa 10-0 only important during election season 6 Oklahoma State 10-0 - they don't have as many quality losses as Bama or ND 7 Oklahoma 9-1 - Everyone just hates the big xII 8 Florida 9-1 - Because "SEC Bias" only helps Bama 9 Michigan State 9-1 - Lets be honest, this is VERY generous 10 Baylor8-1 - because the NCAA just isn't ready for Baylor to be good yet.
Ugh....I guess after this entire lousy season where OSU has way underplayed their talent level, I expected them to be able hit the switch starting yesterday and turn it on. Evidently not. The players were undisciplined out there (look at Bosa's 3 offsides penalties that killed them), Zeke's outburst after the game, and Urban's ridiculous conservative game plan. They didn't deserve to win. The OSU homers here crack me up. "If" Mich St loses to Penn State, "if" this or that happens, etc. we can still make the playoff. I'm a Buckeyes' fan but they don't deserve to make the Final 4 no matter how the last 2 weeks play out. Now it looks like Clemson, Alabama, Big 10 champ (prob between Mich St and Iowa) and that 4th spot coming down to Oklahoma and Notre Dame. If Oklahoma beats Okie St and Notre Dame beats Stanford, will be interesting to see which one gets left out. Wouldn't it be something if Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Notre Dame all got in (ACC, SEC, Big 12, and independent) while the Big 10 and PAC 12 both got left out?
I have always said I don't like seeing those teams on Alabama's schedule. But I have also always said it benefits both schools to have them there as well. The big school gets an off week, the small school gets a ton of cash and their players love the chance to play on the big stage. I would just prefer 'Bama left that to other schools. - - - Updated - - - Be wary, last time this situation came up with Urban, he contracted a medical condition and quit.
