If you are against minimum wage, and against background checks, then you are right of center, even if only slightly. There is no way you can be a lefty and be against a minimum wage. Oh, there used to be a thing called 'conservative democrat' but they were right of center. Results are a dubious distinction, because 'results' are often subjective. That is why the above is about principles. You sound a lot more right of center to me. If you were a lefty, you'd agree with me more often, and you just don't.
No, your premise 'health care requires someone to pay' is a bogus point, because 'someone' is not paying for it. Taxation is not anecdotal (how you framed your point), it's collective, so your point is moot. Additionally, the cost is irrelevant because taxation is now, and has been for some time, the right of the government to tax citizens to distribute and spend for the public good, of which healthcare is part.
You on the Left are perfectly justified in your fervor to whip this SCOTUS 'leak' up to the heights and make a gigantic political bonfire out of it. Indeed, I have warned explicitly about this very thing happening if anyone (ANYONE) of any political prominence among Conservatives were to try to fight abortion rights in the United States. You are to be congratulated for seizing this opportunity... for 'taking the ball and running with it' exactly as Comrade Rahm Emanuel suggested in his famous advice to his Democrat acolytes about 'never letting a crisis go to waste'.... Completely lost in all the political mayhem will be the fact that not a few of us on the Right WANT women to continue to have abortions -- as many as they please, for any reason they like, as often as they like. Moreover, in our opinion, we would approve having the Federal Government paying for abortions for indigent women... not out of any desire to further embrace the huge-and-growing 'welfare state' but because of the cold, hard fact that taxpayers must either "abort 'em or support 'em", mother and offspring, FOR DECADES. This is a classic example of we who are right-of-center SHOOTING OURSELVES IN BOTH FEET! We were well on our way to flushing this ruinous, 'woke', Democrat toilet in Congress in the November elections, and then, all of a sudden, Justice Alito decides that nothing will do but that he must try to get rid of Roe v Wade, even though it should have been obvious to any thinking person that this would cause a firestorm of greater magnitude than anything seen in this country in a long time. With tongue in cheek, then, I'll have to concede that, although for different reasons, you on the Left are demonstrably correct this time in asserting that we on the Right are CRAZY AS SHITHOUSE RATS for having allowed this happen!
We already have bigoted Affirmative Action. We already have a lot of gun control. What special protections do LGBT people need that ordinary humans don’t? Religion isn’t really taught in public schools, unless you call Leftist dogma religion, which it basically is now. And Islamic teaching? Like what? Beheading people who disagree with you or forcing women to cover up head to toe? Did you read Alito’s reasoning for what he did? It’s very well researched and constructed. I’m PRO abortion by the way. Having a kid shouldn’t be easier than owning a car. Too many people have no “right” to be parents because they’re too stupid to breed. And those who should be having more children are too selfish and self centered to have them. It’s a shame.
Well said. A righteous mind clouds judgement. Abortion laws cannot be enforced and already failed long before the internet and abortion drugs.
He uses videos from the MSM to back up his white nationalist propaganda? In any case, my comment wasn't about Carlson. It was about YOU. YOU make claim after claim and support NOTHING with quotes, or references, ... or FACTS! It's clear that you listen to Carlson because you repeat his talking points, but show zero EVIDENCE.
You are still incorrect. By focusing on issues that make me appear right of center, you are intentionally mislabeling me based on your preferred conclusion. I am not a lefty; I am an independent that focuses on results while ignoring the noise from the mosquitoes. Results can be subjective. Of course someone can live in poverty, surrounded by crime and illness and say "Boy, this is great. Thanks Democrats!" Los Angeles raised min wage to $15. long ago. Are you able to show positive results for workers? Background checks have been in place for many years. Are you able to show positive results for those living in high crime cities? I never said I was against BK checks; I said they were worthless. People that don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine are supporting arbitrary laws that have zero benefit. Why is .45 good and .50 ba'a'a'd? A killer with a .22 is dangerous. My 100 cal will never be pointed in an unsafe direction. Don't just accept what politicians tell you.
They are not going to get rid of abortions and I know per liberal logic its "easier" to get preggers and kill it after than it is to put on a condom, but no need to worry as I'm pretty sure you can still use abortions for your primary method of birth control
YOu sound a lot more like a libertarian, 'cause that's how libertarians think. As for $15 minimum wage, I'm sure those who were paid less than $15 who are now being paid $15 are enjoying it. Maybe those gazillionaires at the top will accept 3 less spoonfuls of Caviar instead of the usual 10, in order that unskilled workers might receive it. Look, before the minimum wage was raised to $15 in Los Angeles, the vast majority of unskilled labor jobs paid about $14, even though the minimum was less, anyway, so it's not like it's going to hurt anyone. When I got out of high School, I lived in Los Angeles, and I recall that the minimum wage was something like $1.60 or so ('twas in the 60s), but anywhere I worked, and I worked at several unskilled places, the pay was always $2 bucks, and $2.50 in some places. Places like L.A have to pay higher than the minimum, anyway. All the new law does is raise it to the de facto level. Nothing's really changed.
You didn't ask me but I'll jump in for fun, though it might prove your point since I do not claim to be left of center. Are you for, or against, universal health care, if not, the ACA? Against. Are you for, or against, background checks for purchasing guns? I'm neutral with background checks for arms sold by dealers and manufacturers; against for any private sale. Are you for, or against, civilians owning military weapons (machine guns, javelins, grenade launchers, 50 cal. etc)? I think people should be able to possess military style weapons like the ones you mention; but there is a limit. They should not possess jet fighters, howitzers, aircraft carriers, nuclear bombs, etc, and such, with a pretty high bar.. I'm not sure about javelins. Are you for, or against, limiting the size of gun magazine clips (say, 8 bullets)? Against. Are you for, or against, sawed off shot guns? For allowing possession. Are you for, or against, usury in the issuing of credit? Against egregious usury Are you for, or against, unions ( in principle)? For (in principle). Workers should be allowed to organize and bargain collectively just as businesses can merge and combine forces. Unions were very useful and helpful in their first 50 years or so, but have become, on average, more trouble than they are worth lately. I am against union shop laws. Are you for, or against, food programs for needy children? For, but not by the federal government. Are you for, or against, food stamps for poverty stricken? For, though highly restrictive, especially with the federal government. Are you for, or against, a federal baseline minimum wage that is at least livable in the least expensive state? (for me, it's about $12) Against.
For the most part incrementalism, when it comes to gun control, is the result of those interested in public safety being forced to nibble around the margins of gun laws. While those who place gun possession over human life resist them at every turn.
It's picky and a bit off thread but I think most women probably do approve the right to abortions, but I doubt most actually favor abortion.
No, he uses videos from the MSM to show the ludicrous level of hypocrisy, deception and pure BS that is their daily narrative- he shows them in comparison to what they didn't show about an issue to demonstrate the way they present a fake reality.... and thus how they lied. Obviously you don't watch that show and only go by what the MSM feeds you... and apparently, never question it. I know you aren't stupid, so I have to assume you have reasons for not facing up to what you would have to know is true- and I can't think of any respectable reason. You must have one that is acceptable to your standards. The bar on the left is indeed different- and it's not higher. You keep demanding someone prove what you already have to know to be true- then deny that it's proven. Sorry, but I see you doing that over and over, and that tells us a lot about how your mind works. Noooo thank you.
The LP is a mess. They are divided on many issues. I asked for results and you came back with "enjoying". While the tax man got an extra spoon full of caviar to feed their donors, the worker is worse off based on buying power. Corporations don't eat losses; they pass them along to the consumer. Today, the worker making $15. has less buying power than when you entered the workforce. If politicians really gave a damn about workers, they would lower their taxes and they would retain 100% of the buying power of each dollar left in their pocket.
"....passed Democratically in Florida" (sic) What the hell does that mean? That doesn't even make any sense. Unless you believe it was passed by referendum, or something like that. Which would be weird but at least would make some sense, if you believed that. Most likely the phrase simply exemplifies once more how the extreme right struggles to understand (and is unable) the concept of "democracy".
I appreciate your very balanced opinion. I did see some polls this morning that apparently show most right-wingers disagree with overturning Roe v Wade. So it's only fair to point this out.
That is the sales pitch, but the results show otherwise. Gun control is not from a position of concern for human life. Concern from good people such as yourself are exploited by politicians. Saying that second amendment rights place gun possession over human life is an outright lie. Can you explain why someone who would risk the penalty for committing murder would not risk the penalty of breaking a gun law?
The worker would enjoy it even more if he was paid $100/hr. What's the point? Laws should not be passed just because they might not hurt anybody. I have relatives in the pizza business in VA and they have been paying more than the federal and VA minimum wage for years and decades. It's called the market. The market always works better than government in these things. So follow the axiom that says it it ain't broke don't try to fix it. The push for higher federal minimum wage is all about power and control and has nothing to do with the working stiff.
So what do I care if Tucker Carlson doesn't like Corporate Media? Corporate Media's first and ONLY interest is to make money for their share holders. Sometimes they make more money by telling the truth. Sometimes they make more money lying or stretching the truth. How does that excuse the fact that you make WILD claims about "the left" without showing ANY evidence? I don't own corporate media, I don't know anybody who works in the corporate media and, as far as I know, there is nobody from corporate media in this forum... so why should I give a CRAP what you or Tucker Carlson say about them? I'm asking YOU to support your idiotic accusations with quotes, references, links, .... FACTS! And you keep talking about what Tucker Carlson thinks of fat capitalist billionaires who own CNN, NBC or ... Fox.
At least it is refreshing to hear an admission that the MSM lies through their teeth all they choose to and it doesn't bother leftists a bit.
Of course! We said it many times. They lie and exaggerate. Like some of the made-up scandals during the Obama administration. But the good thing is that when the media lies, in the end they get caught. And they are ALWAYS hammered by the left. The right only hammers them when it's politically convenient.
Horseshit. IF you actually watched a Carlson show- you would either see that wasn't true and change your position, or you would more likely see it was true and deny it. CNN is Warner, therefore ATT. How is that not corporate media? Bad character, a lack of integrity such as CNN demonstrates everyday, could exist under any ownership. There's no legitimate reason why people cannot discuss ideas and issues respectfully- but when the left became the house of nonsense and lost all trace of a moral compass, that leaves the only possibility as a pissing match. You haven't produced a fact yet, and you ignore the long list of ugly facts that destroy your narrative. The only "fact" you want to see is someone telling you your illusions are real, and I believe you would see that as victory. A win over- common sense, responsibility, rationality, reason. Things I see you avoiding like the bubonic. Today, Oregon has put a law in place that will require menstrual products and the instructions on their use to be provided in boys bathrooms in K12 schools. As looney as that is- it's not out of keeping with things the left is bringing to America everywhere. By the way, that's a fact: "Every public school in Oregon — including elementary institutions — will soon be required to provide tampons and other feminine products in boys' bathrooms with "instructions on how to use" them. The controversial requirement is in accordance with the state's new Menstrual Dignity Act, signed into law by Democratic Gov. Kate Brown last year, which mandates that menstrual products be made available in "every student bathroom." Check your news sources. There will be morons on the left thinking this new law is some kind of revolutionary idea and a victory. The above quote is from "https://www.theblaze.com/news/oregon-schools-menstrual-products-for-boys" but it's all over the news. Biden abandoning 1000 people and 80+ billion in military equipment in Afghanistan was too, but I don't recall your mentioning that as fact.... Must have been too small a fact to make your list. People want to have a world where rational communication takes place and reasoning shapes policy. Hard to believe for you? Or- just distasteful?
This guy is amazing All the NPCs programming got broken trying to compute their logic against the statements. https://twitter.com/abigaildodds/status/1522047133863530496?s=20&t=LYrI6fuRCwdNS-gxR1BlGw
THE ATLANTIC: What Alito Got Right. “First, it’s important to understand the question before the Supreme Court. It is not ‘Should American women possess a right to abortion?’ but ‘Does the American Constitution protect abortion rights?’ The distinction is of paramount importance. The Court’s job is not to determine which rights we should possess but rather the rights we do possess.” They are correct.
