Palestinian incitement to terror

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's called "genocide". The Zionist Nazis are in a hurry. They're worried that help will arrive in time to thwart "the final solution":

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    BBC did a poll at least a few. years ago(1) and, surprisingly enough, Germany was the most popular country in the world while Israel ranked down with Iran one N. Korea.

    "Popularity", however is not the same as "most condemned nation". For that dishonorable distinction, Israel wins the prize for getting the most UN Resolution violations and, according to one study, Israel leads the world in countries that ignore UN Resolution violations with impunity(2).

    Why should Israel's Right Wing extremists abide by international law when they know that Israel's lobbies in the US will succeed in extracting $ Billions and whatever weaponry they want from naive American taxpayers.

    Netanyahu summarized the true nature of the US - Israeli alliance when he said:

    “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.” - Benjamin Netanyahu
    https://www.quotemaster.org/q8da87be6957d927735bc145596436a2e

    Thanks,


    (1) “BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/bb...tions-1.525890

    EXCERPT“The annual BBC World Service poll finds Germany most popular; only countries less popular than Israel are North Korea, Pakistan and Iran.”CONTINUED

    (2). "Study: Israel Leads in Ignoring Security Council Resolutions"
    https://www.haaretz.com/2002-10-10/...olutions/0000017f-db7d-d3ff-a7ff-fbfd800b0000
    EXCERPT " Israel holds the record for ignoring United Nations Security Council resolutions, according to a study by San Francisco University political science professor Steven Zunes." CONTINUED
     
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    We all can count.
    The last condemnation by the world on Israel was made last month.
     
  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As always, you contribute more than I can digest in a single day. So I’ll just take a few bites and see how far it takes me.
    First of all, I am surprised the BBC would stick its neck out and make such a report. It’s become such lap dog for the CIA that expressing anything of merit is taking a big risk of getting the chop from Washington. So, let me say “Bravo, BBC!”

    Yes, I am also surprised that Germany came up top of the list. I can think a trillion reasons why the country is popular …. but number one?
    And there’s the dilemma. The UN is obviously aware that Israel (and the US) is giving the UN the finger yet it doesn’t even register on the list of convictions served.
    I can offer no answer to your question.
    My thoughts have been bouncing up and down over that “alliance”. For years (my blue-eyed years) I assumed it was the US that was controlling Israel. All of the Arabs I’ve met say it’s the other way round and it took a while to see their point … and it seems to be true. I do not believe, however, that there will come a time when Israel cuts the US lose. Israel will have to conquer the whole of its Middle East conquest dream (you know what I am talking about) and that will take some time, during which the region will make the Zionists pay in buckets of blood – more than Israel can afford.
    Thank you.
    Now you’re talkin’!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meanwhile you called for all Jews of the world to be ethnically cleansed and deported to New York City. And you have multiple times said that Hitler was right about the Jews. How ironic.
     
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    All state land under the British mandate of Palestine was to be used for the good of all citizens of Palestine. And that includes Jewish citizens. Calling it "Arab land" is dishonest and absurd, especially considering that the Jewish citizens seem to be the only ones interested in creating a future for Palestine that was to the benefit of all people regardless of religion and ethnicity.
     
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    Oh, sure. Israel HELPED Palestinians by building walls to exclude Palestinians from quality agricultural land, bulldozing the homes of Palestinians, destroying olive orchards, increasing the size of illegal Israeli-only settlements.

    There are known oil reserves in the offshore region of Gaza. Thank the LORD that Israel has ensured that those resources can not be tapped by Palestinians.

    In other words, what the heck are you talking about?? Israel works HARD to destroy the economy of Palestine, and then you come along with derisive statements about Palestinian progress??? What's that?
     
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    I understand that it's part of the Palestinian mindset to make believe that the Jews completely left Palestine after the Romans won the war, but simply not true. Jews have always lived in Palestine, in larger numbers and smaller numbers. The Jews were in charge of the defense of the city of Haifa during the first Crusade. Jews were continuing to move back and forth in Jerusalem during the Ottoman times and always had good size communities in the Gallilee region. Jews were the majority of the population of Jerusalem in the 1880s.

    It is simply dishonest to make believe that state land= Arab land, especially as much of the privately owned land in Palestine was owned by absentee Turkish and Arab landlords. But just as Arabs make believe that the Western Wall has no connection to Judaism and the old city has no meaning for the Jewish people, folks like to make believe that there were never any Jews in Palestine until Zionism. However history tells us a different story even history written by Muslims.
     
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    Israel only started building walls in the West Bank after the second intifada, when the Palestinians made it clear to Israel that peace was never in their interest or their agenda. They have the silly idea that they can wear down and defeat the Jews through constant and Never ending violence.
     
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    That is NOT what is being said.

    What is being said is that when Israel arrived in force, there were Palestinians living there.

    And, through a program of war, theft and humanitarian atrocities, Palestinians have been losing their land to Israeli Zionism.

    We do NOT change modern country borders by looking to see who occupied the area a couple thousand years ago.

    And, we have international agreement on the UN charter which clearly states that increasing the size of a country through force is NOT acceptable.

    There are NO grounds for accepting Israel's atrocities in Palestine.
     
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    Israel has been changing the route of its wall purely as a method of stealing the land of Palestinian occupants.

    And, yes. When you steal someone's land, when you bulldoze their homes, when you rule them under military law in which they have no representation, when you work to kill their economy, you WILL see outbreaks of violence.

    What Israel is doing is orders of magnitude WORSE than what caused America to go to war against England.

    The SURPRISING part is that the government of Palestine has been staunchly and single-mindedly advocating for peace through negotiation, through the UN, through appeals to the US and others.

    Yet the USA empowers Israel to continue its historic humanitarian atrocities against the people of Palestine.
     
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    The Palestinian people has been pushing for violence ever since the peace process began and they have never committed to peace.
     
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    Jordan attacked the state of Israel in 1967 and Israel defended itself. Nothing illegal about that.
     
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    This is absolutely false.

    The Abbas government has pushed for nonviolent, negotiated settlement of borders for 20 years.

    Israeli defense has acknowledged that by allowing Abbas weapons to make it possible for Abbas to carry out security operations.

    Let's remember that the last attempt at negotiation came during the Bush administration. That failed, because Israel demanded that the negotiations must include freedom for Israel to steal MORE land DURING the negotiation for borders - a definitive statement that Israel was NOT going to negotiate in good faith.
     
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    That is not an excuse for the continuing humanitarian atrocities of Israel that have been going on for decades now.
     
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    No but it is an excuse for conquering the West Bank.
     
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    The West Bank IS conquered.

    It's essentially an open air prison.

    What the HELL are you hoping for?
     
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    The Palestinian people are not pushing for violence. They are pushing to get their land back. Anything less than that is no "process for peace". The Zionists are pushing for more and more land. Their "process for peace" is ... if the Palestinians move out without a fight there will be peace during the land-grabbing process.

    Help is on the way:

    PalestianPeacePlan 1.jpg
     
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    The West Bank is a lot nicer than a prison.
     
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    The Palestinian "Peace" Plan has failed for over 74 years. Keep up the fail.

    :p
     
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    I'm a war veteran. "Failure" is giving up. The Palestinians have not given up - theirs is not a failure. Help is on the way:

    PalestianPeacePlan 1.jpg
     
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    Israel is the major power BY FAR. Palestinians are not allowed the weapons that Israel uses against them.

    And, there is NO Israeli peace plan, nor has there EVER been.

    In fact, for the last more than 20 years, Israel has made it clear that they refuse to negotiate in good faith.
     
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    That is a fact.
    You took the words right out of my mouth.
    One might have said it's the Israeli "Peace Plan" that ...
    ... except that they haven't got one.
     
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    If you say all Jews of the world should be ethnically cleansed then I guess they should be.

    Help is on the way:

    PalestianPeacePlan 1.jpg
     
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    No, you said it, not me.
     

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