palestinian rockets are legal

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  1. creation

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    Actually no, the Jewish became a majority in Jerusalem city in 1896, in Jerusalem district the majority remained muslim.

    http://www.mideastweb.org/palpop.htm
     
  2. creation

    creation New Member

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    Please dont respond to my posts unless you wish to have a discussion where we both try to keep close to the facts and leave bigotry to the bigots.
     
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    That would mean that while its ok for an occuying power to affect the civilian population its not ok for occupied people to effect the civilian population. While effecting the civilian population has never been legal in international law, there has never been a case where only one side ie Israel was allowed to mess with civilians.

    Thereby, as long as and given that Israel has no problem effecting the civilian population over and over, to say there is something especially wrong with Palestinians doing the same thing back is just plain old evil and wrong.

    No trolling responses please, just tell me why its ok for one side to mess with civilians and the other not.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Built it and allowed it to deterriorate to the point where they didnt even bother to trim the weeds growing through the cracks between the pavement stones.
     
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    Jews have ALWAYS been the Majority in Jerusalem... Jerusalem was a watering stop for Caravans form North to south and visa versa... Jerusalem was never an ARAB town.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The Jewish outnumbered the Muslims by the 1850s in Jerusalem. While you claim

    In the last 160 years they never outnumbered the jews. Precisely the opposite of what you have imagined.
     
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    Nah, 1400s to 1850 the Muslims outnumbered the jews
     
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    tell the forum how many times a day the loud speakers are blasting muslim prayers from the temple mount.
     
  9. Deputy Dawg

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    Not really true.

    1851 official census says that there were only 5580 Jews compared to 12286 Muslims. In 1856 there were 5700 Jews to 10300 Muslims. In 1871 there were 4000 Jews to 13000 Muslims. They were the minority before the 1850's as well. they only got to be the majority there later thru their illegal immigration. Of course they were also the minority in the rest of Palestine, even on the eve of the Israeli state they were only 1/3rd of the population.

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KzOAxmHDzHUC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Ive made no assertions regarding Israels actions. YOU are the one claiming the Palestinains actions to resist an occupation with rockets fired into civilian areas is legal.
     
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    Year Jews Muslims Christians Total Original Source As quoted in
    1844 7,120 5,000 3,390 15,510 Ernst-Gustav Schultz, Prussian consul[16]
    1846 7,515 6,100 3,558 17,173 Titus Tobler, Swiss explorer[17] Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[10]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Jerusalem

    Using your source
     
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    You should have read that article first before posting. Here you are

    Writing in 1841, the biblical scholar Edward Robinson noted the conflicting demographic estimates regarding Jerusalem during the period, stating in reference to an 1839 estimate by Sir Moses Montefiore: "As to the Jews, the enumeration in question was made out by themselves, in the expectation of receiving a certain amount of alms for every name returned. It is therefore obvious that they here had as strong a motive to exaggerate their number,

    Plus your claims were

    The Jewish outnumbered the Muslims by the 1850s in Jerusalem.
    In the last 160 years they never outnumbered the jews. Precisely the opposite of what you have imagined.


    which were proven to be incorrect.
     
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    It wouldn't be the first time that Muslims had to be forcibly moved out of a country because they could not get along with their neighbors.

     
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    Silly, youve proven nothing other than there are conflicting statistics. Revealing that you go straight to statistics I DIDNT use.
     
  15. creation

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    Fascinating, but my mideastweb source backs my claims looking over the duffering claims, ill explain their reasoning if you have a problem with their conclusion.

    Jews became a majority in the city in 1896, and were never a majority in the district. Thereby they did not build Jerusalem, the arabs did. It makes sense in any case, jewish people came to worship, not to build. Later they even had to found their own city for goodness sake, and you would tell us that they built jerusalem?


    They didnt till the land and make the bricks like the arabs did, they simply couldnt have. They hadnt lived there in large numbers long enough to have productive villages, cash crops and local industries....all these things had to be invented and imported.
     
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    I have proven that you were wrong. You were wrong and nothing you say will ever change that. God I am sick of these people denying that they are wrong when it is in black and white that they are, with links as well.It is like debating with 2 year olds.
     
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    Ah yes, bet they didnt sweep the sand away enough for your liking either eh? Ever built and maintained an ancient mosque in the 1900s before? Ill bet not.
     
  18. creation

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    Those rockets are no more illegitmate than the occupation and settlement of the west bank settlement and the blockading of Gazans sea and air access.

    Its what anyone would do in the same position and they did, just ask for examples, go on please...
     
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    Even if what you say was true... today the Jews are the majority (I included) and the rest can go drink from the dead sea.
     
  21. creation

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    Surprising your not even aware of these historical facts.
     
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    The Arab laborers, the Christian laborers, the Jewish laborers were all paid for their work.
    You want to elate yourself to your heart's content that Arab labor in Jerusalem was uniquely Arab... Well you are wrong, the Arab came to work in Jerusalem because work was available to them... Not that they owned the building they were working on...

    Again Pallywood... lies do not have feet to stand on... Arab workers participated in building Jerusalem... yes... who paid them for their labor... Ask yourself who cut their check or paid them in cash... Who had the burning desire to build in Jerusalem since David and Solomon? It was not Mohammad... he did not travel to Jerusalem, not once in his lifetime for he was busy killing Jewish Tribes in Yatrib...
     
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    Funny that some people think 900+ rockets fired into Israel this year are just "pin pricks" and should be ignored. No one in their right mind (and I am beginning to believe there are quite a few) would put up with that. Hamas uses it's own citizens as pawns on the world stage to garner sympathy. The media does not report much of what Hamas does until they started firing rockets that could reach Tel Aviv. What kills me is that the people defending Hamas are usually liberals that supposedly believe in tolerance and don't believe in war yet they defend one of the most intolerant, militant, terrorist groups in existence. Minds of mush that can be molded by Hamas propaganda make many useful idiots.
     
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    Gaza is being occupied by Hamas not Israel, and it is the twisted argument of terrorist and their supporters about the legality of firing rockets to provoke Israel to react is the very reason why we support Israel and why Hamas is consider a terrorist organization and most of all the reason why we must fight them.
     
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    Videos released by Hamas in 2011 show Qassam rockets being fired from residential areas and mosques. According to Yedioth Aharonoth journalist Elior Levy, "Gaza terror cells choose to fire from urban areas knowing that the Israel Defense Forces refrain from intercepting them for fear of hurting civilians. The killing of civilians in Gaza also serves the terrorists' purposes who claim Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza.

    Yep, this is what the useful idiots defend.
     

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