Papa John's: Obamacare likely to raise costs, employee's hours being cut

my military is whatever you want to call it

 

The purpose of any business is to continue into the future. It must earn a profit in order to do that. Making a profit is always in the best interests of society. Without those profits, economies lose investment and growth which hurts everyone. The U.S. became the the wealthiest country in the world during the time of people like Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Morgan, Ford etc around the turn of the last century. Those people made enormous fortunes for themselves and their work contributed to the overall growth of the American economy. You can hate the capitalists but you have to appreciate the benefits to society of what they did in seeking fortune.

The government has no role in business at all. Its role is to make and enforce laws. Government and business should never encounter each other unless there is a law broken or the government is a customer of business.


Business is not the bad guy. Business profits produce every single nickel of wealth in our society. All of it. People puruse the American dream through business whether they are an entrepreneur or an employee. Government is a net spender of wealth. The less of that, the better for all of us. It's common sense.

 

Get rid of Government pensions and turn 'em into 401 (k)'s and see how fast they decide business profit is a good thing. Their retirement will depend on it.

 

Sounds good on paper. masachusetts promised that the larger and larger cigarette taxes would go to curbing youth smoking and cessation programs. Sounded great for those who didnt smoke. Turns out they give less than 1% of the 800+ Million per year to that cause. The rest goes right to the general fund to be spent as they see fit, on whatever they like.

This money you mention above would do the same, and theyd still be looking for more. There would be no "healthcare superfund".

 

You're right but I often wonder if it is possible to change seething rage into pom-poms.

The mere idea that they be responsible for their own future scares the bejeasus out of them and if they themselves are competent, they don't believe others are. It is therefore their duty to do it for them.

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More hyperbole. Never take advice from someone who hates the topic they want to discuss.

 

That's the one thing the "taxers" can't seem to grasp: That the government is not at all efficient in how they spend other people's money and "frugality" is not even in their lexicon.

They just know that the beast must be fed, no matter how clogged with sh*t their lawn is.

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Rarely have I seen someone so fully and unthinkingly internalize corporate propaganda in my entire life!! Profit is always good? My word, what nonsense!! Profit is always neutral in fact. It is neither good nor bad. How the profit is made determines it's social benefit. It is very possible to make large quantities of money, while exploiting slave labor, raping your workers, sowing political discontent, and doing lots of other really awful things!!! Belgian diamond companies in colonial Congo made huge profits, only a truly maniacal individual would claim those profits lead to social benefits for the people of the region.

PS. Corporations cannot exist without government. They are by their nature a contract between the state and the people who own the corporation. Corporations began as a grant by the British monarch to certain groups. The idea that something which is essentially connected to the state, should be entirely disconnected from the state, is absurd.

 

Come to think of it, their pension system can be left in place during the transition. Simply eliminate the Government back filling their pension funds when the funds investments drop. If the pension fund loses money on their investments, pensioners just get less pay and benefits and current members pay more. The Government makes 401(k) like contributions based on their current revenue. The economy drops so does their contributions. That could work

 

WE have been warned! the horror! 10- to 14-cent increase for customers buying a pizza? OMG WHAT HAVE WE DONE? I think stopping insurances from denying people with pre-exisitng conditions alone is worth a 15 cent increase on papa johns pizza, or is this Pizza your sacred cow we've sacraficed?

Hmm 15 cents more on pizza? or let people with pre-existing condtion which are no fault of their own be denied coverage?

 

Has nothing to do with the pre-existing conditions....it has to do with the regulations, fines, rules etc.

Wake up. Its funny how the left always takes the things the people wants and makes them as an examples of what the businesses don't want, when we know that isn't true.

 

Ohh so its about every part of Obamacare BUT pre-exisiting conditon coverage. Silly me!

 

That is ONE element among many, in a massive bill. They could have passed a bill stopping them from denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions, or even worse, dropping people who get sick, without passing the rest of the awful crap in that bill. When did the left get so petty, that they are for anything the right is currently against? Obamacare is crony capitalism at it's worst. It is a giant handout to insurance companies, as it forces millions of people to buy insurance from private companies. I don't want to be forced to do anything, especially line the pockets of multinational pharmaceutical and insurance corporations!!

 

Some companies will go to any lengths to avoid treating their employees reasonably.

 

It really is a tragedy. I hear Obamacare is going to keep John Schnatter from buying a second castle.

 

Yes, everyone agreed on things like pre-existing conditions and not allowing to drop people once they got sick. Its all the other bs regulations, laws, rules and crap put on businesses and individuals. wake up

 

that mistreatment often gets passed along to customers

 

Sounds like, if thats the case, its a good reason not to do business with them.

 

i don't do business with them

 

Tell it to the chinese politburo....

America must compete with slave labor.

 

I see your point. Everyone must be slaves to the government !!!!

How dare he become successful !!!

Eat the Rich !!! Take their money !!!

Free Bees !!!

 

I'm sure their competitors are delighted to here that.

 

Eventually, the fishermen are going to stop fishing because they will be tired of having everything they catch taken away and given to the lazy liberals.

 

that's a ridiculous over-simplification, but if fishermen like john schnatter want to stop fishing

i'm pretty sure local pizzerias and other franchises, like bain capital (domino's) will step right up to take their customers

 

I work for Kroger and at my store now it is almost impossibe to get a entry level starting Full time job. If you can work 35 hours a week for 12 consecutive weeks then they will make you full-time. Only problem is that on that 10th or 11th week they only schedule you for 25 to 32 hours. Even our full time employees are suppose to work 40 hours but the company can cut them back to 35 hours and they are still considered full-time ; and the company does. Any time you lose 5 hours pay a week it can really hurt.