Paris Attackers Were All European Nationals

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by longknife, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. FearandLoathing

    FearandLoathing Well-Known Member

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    No matter how many times or how broadly this is reported the fact of the Syrian passport found near a bomb site will not dissuade the paranoid. With growing evidence in Paris that the passport was planted - the stamps on it appear to have been 'arranged' it is still being used as "proof" that the attacks were the work of refugees fleeing the civil war.
     
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    It is about to get much worse for Europeans. This guy knows what he is talking about. The best analysis of European refugee crisis I have come across so far. Almost everything he said makes perfect sense. One thing for sure, nothing is happening by accident. It's good they translated this interview in English. It is certainly an eye opener.

    Yuri Yatsko: Refugee crisis was engineered intentionally
    http://geopolitika.si/2015-10-08-yatsko-english/

     
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    BS on that. These people came over and then set up little enclaves of the very country they left behind. It is the Damn Muzzies problem that THEY failed to assimilate into the culture into which THEY CHOSE to immigrate. It is a lie that you are fostering, that the west has failed THEM. THEY could always have gone back to WhereverStan if they wanted to, and no western government would have tried to stop them. But, they chose to remain in the west, enjoy the freedoms and prosperity that we have to offer, and then turn like the rabid dogs they are and bite the hand that feeds them. The only thing the west is guilty of is allowing them to remain in the first place, once they began preaching hatred and death in their Mosques of Satan. If the Muzzies are so damn peaceful, then why are we not seeing it? If the Muzzies in France were truly French at heart, then we would not have a problem, but the fact is that they were French on paper only, but their hearts and minds are committed to those hell holes their parents came from. Once the went to Syria to fight for ISIS, their citizenship should have been revoked.
     
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    That's a lie and you know it. The passports are not being used as "proof" that refugees are terrorists. The passports are Proof that Terrorists are coming over in the guise of Refugees. You seem to be deliberately misunderstanding/mistating this in order to make a point of your moral superiority, in your sympathy for refugees. The fact is, that conservatives ALSO have sympathy for the Displaced Persons, but we are willing to recognize that the Muzzie terrorists are trying to take advantage of that sympathy. People like you would allow them to. Is it that you feel that you and your loved ones are unlikely to be the next bomb victims that you adhere to this lunacy? Maybe you don't mind is some Old Catholic lady in Sweden gets blown up, so long as you can feel good about not having discriminated/profiled along rational lines?
     
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    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, domestically Bush 43 IMO was no hero, "Prescription Drugs", "Faith Based Initiatives", "No child left behind", just a few liberal based moves, that HAVE added some to today's ND. I think Jeb Bush's political life is over as well and just being from Texas, didn't help Rick Perry, one of the top three R's candidates in my opinion.

    This said, GWB has not publicly defended himself, his advisors or his policies over their Foreign Policy. The times he has been asked for comments, that I've seen, he has refused comment, saying it's not his place to talk about the Presidents policy. This to me, means he either agrees with Obama or was not sure of his own.
     
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    In Germany an historic flag reappears. The Nordic Cross in German Colors

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    What is this flag? The flag of the German resistance in 1944. This was flown by those who stood against Hitler. This was the flag of those who loved the German States and who would not bow the knee to either the Communists or the Socialists.

    http://cdrsalamander.blogspot.com/2015/11/in-germany-flag-re-appears.html
     
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    Syrian passports are ten a penny, especially fake ones. None of the named terrorists are of Syrian origin. It's part of the DAESH plan to instil fear of the refugees, and underline their narrative that the West hates Muslims. Look at the fear and loathing expressed in this and many other threads to see how well their propaganda is working.
     
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    Syrian passports are legit as ISIS when taking over Syrian cites confiscates the forms, etc. to make them as good as the Syrian Govt's!

    Vetting anything coming out of Syria is a waste of time..
     
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    The 9/11 'terrorists' were cannon fodder.

    They come from all sections of society but there is a strong likelihood of them feeling no sense of belonging. They also appear to come via a Salafi route or a convert route even if that convert comes from a non practising Muslims background and for being involved the motivation is often political.
     
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    Yes. . .and yet, the Right is scared to death of IMMIGRANTS! DUH!

    By the way, most (if not all) terrorists in the US in the last 10 years have been American Nationals!
     
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    It has gone beyond simple fear and become paranoid panic.

    It is being ASSUMED these refugees ARE terrorists.

    From this perspective, we are being told the lion's share of these refugees will have been in the cue for months, sometimes years. More so, priority is being given to orphans, widows, women and children.

    Never before, even during the Vietnamese refugee crisis have I seen Americans whipped into such a panic frenzy.

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    Or had a visa or landed immigrant status.
     
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    Like I said its the children of these refugees we need worry about. I venture everyone you just named is the offspring of an immigrant from the ME.

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    No your assuming people are saying that. What their saying is that terrorists are hiding among them and using them for cover
     
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    On the one hand you are saying Bush did not defend his failed war. On the other hand you quote a link which clearly shows he did.
     
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    So what. The US has arrested 26 immigrants in the US for Islamic terrorism in 2015.
     
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    Yup, I remember. I'm in complete agreement with you Apacherat. Obama is about as much an American as the terrorists were French.
     
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    Just goes to show how extremism can poison anyone's mind if he or she invites it.
     
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    A murderers excuse if I ever did hear one. You don't think much of poor people do you?
     
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    I believe in patterns, should I ignore them because some people may be offended? The poor and disenfranchised are the foot soldiers of most ideologies. Anarchism, Communism, fascism, Islamic extremism. The only way to stop it is to address the problems they pose or take away their recruits. Causality is important to determine if you ever wish to end a problem. You do want to end Islamic extremism dont you? Well if you do, it may just pay to figure out where they get their recruits and why those recruiters succeed.
     
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    Either way it is a wrongful assumption. In case anyone wants to know, this country has had a steady flow of Syrian refugees for a few years now.

    At least come up with some evidence, like the arrest of alleged terrorists now sitting in filthy refugee camps. Or you also assume your own government is too stupid to LOOK for terrorists among them, or too incompetent. In either event after five or more years of refugees fleeing civil war we still have not one terrorist arrested among them.
     
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    Why does Iran as a Persian nation feel compelled to be involved in Arab nations? Is it possible that being an outsider motivates one to be willing to go over the top to be accepted by the group they want to be an insider with? Is this any different than a college sophomore or freshmen who will let the upper classmen haze them just to get greek letters? Maybe, maybe not.

    The anonymous efforts will hopefully make it harder for people to be radicalized by the internet even if they have moved the actual hard-core terror sites to the dark web.
     
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    I don't think this is a huge discovery that the source of terrorism in European countries is Arab population living in suburbs' gettos with no jobs, no good education, not incorporated in society and so on. Another important point - I'm sure after a while that will be found out many of these terrorists, maybe most of them, participated in wars - in Syria, in Libya, in Afghanistan etc. The investigation will show that the secret services of France, Belgium and maybe of some other countries knew about their activity in war areas but that wasn't estimated as a threat or kind of dangerous behaviour, and these people were allowed to come back from out factually ISIL controlled areas to Paris, to Brussels and have their usual lifestyle.

    And actually I think this is horrible.
     
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    Its clearly foreign policy, the attackers in Paris even said so themselves, they said this is your presidents' fault for attacking Syria. Its blatantly 100% foreign policy, they aren't just rabid christian haters, they're attacking countries that have attacked them.
     
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    The thing is, though, ISIS itself is attacking Syria also. They, and a few others, want Assad gone. Meanwhile, Assad is attacking his own people. There are several entities fighting over who is in control there currently.
     
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    Again their children are brought up hating the west and seeing the westerners in their new nation have all the wealth. Is it any wonder they are so easily radicalized. They do not want to assimilate is the problem. They want to take over. Its gods way or the highway.
     

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