Part 11 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. crank

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    so you don't know the answer to this question, either? you're really setting the world on fire, MR!

    meantime, I can tell you how bad they were :p

    they were NEARLY as bad as god. of course, no human could reach such heights of pure murderous evil, but jeez whizzy these ancients gave it a red hot go!
     
  2. Mitt Ryan

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    Are you suffering from a condition called misinterprelitus?...lol don't need to answer cause I already know the answer it is...yes...lol

    All I said was "Tough Question" but then I went on to answer it...duh!

    Did I say "Tough Question" then went on to say I can't answer it?...duh!...nooooh!...lol
     
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    There is no mess in heaven to be picked up, it's obvious you have mistaken where the janitors will be stationed at...they will be stationed at that other place...you know...where there will be nothing but mess and debris.
     
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    That's what I'm doing my man. I'm currently on Part 5 now and so parts 1-4 have been answered (well just the coherent ones).

    So who is dodging?...certainly it's not me, for I am taking them head on as I merrily go along...choo!..choo!

    Your opinions are shall we say "biased" in nature but am I surprised?...certainly not, for I know it's the inherent nature of my non-believing friends to be that way.

    Oh, lastly for an update we are on Part 11 now and so that means besides part 5, I still haven't answered 6,7,8,9,10.

    So, I have lots of work ahead.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but you are wrong in saying, "Almost all deny that the Exodus as portrayed in the BIble occurred"

    For how can they deny something of having occurred when they don't have any factual basis for that denial? Simply put, they just don't know anything for sure.

    But you are right in saying, "and most archaeologists have abandoned the archaeological investigation of Moses and the Exodus as "a fruitless pursuit"

    Which is not surprising at all when you consider this event probably happened some 3,500 years ago or so. And so any trace of it has probably disappeared a long time ago.

    But who knows there still might be some evidence in the nooks and crannies somewhere. Like they say, , "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"
     
  6. AlphaOmega

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    None of my posts were angry or hateful like your religious hypocritical posts have been. Once again you attack me personally which I have not reported only because the more you type the more people see you for exactly what you are which are complete hypocrites. You tout yourselves as god loving, and you love everything and everything is peace and love but in reality, your sitting there taking pleasure at insulting me. And I find that deliciously hypocritical. Also, you can keep saying I am angry hateful and spiteful when ummm let me check uhhh yup thats you not me. You are the one hurling insults. Have you noticed you stopped answering questions? Not only dont you answer tough questions you arent answering any now. You should change your thread title to "question my faith and I will insult you because I am a spiteful angry hypocritical religious drone" :) The happy face means I meant that to be funny.
    Why are religious people so angry and spiteful if you ask them tough questions?
    Also, I dont need any help. I am self sufficient but maybe you could pray that your priests stop raping children and those with faith stop covering it up.
    Yeah sure.....Im the bad one. Showa.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have moved twice since I wrote that. Wow! tune in next week when Mitt says, " "
     
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    The Persian Empire wasn't so bad. There was no slavery at all. You really can't compare empires to religion. They're not the same thing.

    I like this quote: "The intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how heaven goes." I believe the Church should have had a more neutral position. Who cares if he was right or wrong. It's not the business of religion to tell you how the heavens go, only on how to get to heaven.



    And do you agree with the Pope's assesment?

    Perhaps, but it's really irrelevent and it actually makes it worse. Look what they did to one of their own. He was a man of science and a man of God trying to figure out how the world works.
     
  9. Mitt Ryan

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    Sorry but you're mistaken that my posts are angry or hateful religious hypocritical posts, furthermore I don't have at all a pattern of attacking you personally. I notice you like to threaten other posters with "reporting them" this is not the first time you have said that so this could be considered a pattern.

    But anyway below are 10 of my posts that I have made responses directly to you, one can clearly see that I don't have a pattern of being angry or hateful in my responses to you.

    I have presented 10 of them, if you could bring up 11 other responses between you and I where it's evident that my responses are angry or hateful and attacking you personally then indeed it will prove I have a pattern of doing this and therefore I would be guilty of making angry or hateful responses to you.

    But on the other hand if you can't come up with them could you retract your statement you made saying that my posts are angry, hateful religious hypocritical posts?

    1. I think you skipped my questions. I have many.
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    My friend WanRen already answered your questions but if you have new ones go ahead and post it.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=285313&page=17&p=1062216523#post1062216523

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    2. are we cherry picking questions? I thought we were going to get some answers? If you think that one was too tough I better not ask about Abraham.
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    Relax! I got a tons of questions that I still haven't answered on Part 1. Your easy question will be answered, I suggest in the meantime you read my responses to other questions. Yours will be answered in due time.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=285313&page=18&p=1062216819#post1062216819

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    3. What will heaven be for me when I get there?
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    You have been expressing your disbelief in God with such disdain and so it doesn't make sense for you to ask such a question.

    However for the saved who will go there it will be heavenly bliss in paradise for all eternity!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&p=1062398257#post1062398257

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    4. LOL so now you know what my eternal happiness should be? You know what makes me happy more than I do? If there are no trees, no snakes, no bugs, no birds, no nothing other than human souls, that doesnt sound like eternal happiness to me at all. It sounds exactly like hell. I prefer trees, snakes, dogs, lizards, bugs, over spending eternity with souls that believe I need worship something and agree with their ideology or be outcast. My dog required nothing of me other than my friendship. You and people like you however require a long list of things I need to do in order to spend eternity....with you.
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    Well, it's too bad then you can't spend eternity here on earth with your trees, snakes, bugs, and birds. Life here on earth as we all know is temporary but the eternity is forever.

    Nobody is telling you or anyone else for that matter that you must agree with our belief. We are just answering questions pertaining to the Christian religion, if it's not for you fine, you are not going to see me begging you to believe. I am not here trying to make believers out of you atheists.

    Lastly, there is no such thing as a long list of things people need to do in order to become Christians and be saved.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=14&p=1062410515#post1062410515

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    5. Did you ever give any thought that the peaceful people are the "non-religious" types and that the violent ones are the one that are radical religious fanatics?
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    Wow! are you naive and uninformed! Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, to name a few of the "non-religious" types killed millions of people.

    Stalin murdered 20,000,000 of his people when he ruled the Soviet Union.

    Mao murdered 45,000,000 in 4 years when he ruled China.

    Pol Pot murdered nearly a quarter of Cambodia's seven million people.

    So much for your erroneous theory of the peaceful people being the "non-religious" types.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=23&p=1062418804#post1062418804

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    6. Did your god kill more people than all of the above? Yes or No
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    If you are implying that God killed more people in the sense that it was, what we humans refer to as, cold-blooded murder then the answer is no, in fact He has killed no one in the history of mankind in cold-blooded murder....yes! that's right zero!

    Since God is perfectly Holy meaning He is without sin, He has not murdered anyone, murdering is sinful.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=27&p=1062426560#post1062426560

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    7. Does the bible say how did God came into existence? What was before him that created him? Even god cant create himself. If he did he would have already existed and therefore would be a circular reference.
    Also with the recent scientific breakthrough of the tentative discovery of the Higgs Boson we (man) can demonstrate that we can create something out of nothing. The laws of physics also accounts for this to be possible. Does this mean we are gods now as well?
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    God is eternal, He has no beginning or end. He is everlasting. He did not come into existence because He was always in existence. He is the uncaused that caused everything else to come into existence.

    Scripture tells us, "All honor and glory to God forever and ever! He is the eternal King, the unseen one who never dies; He alone is God. Amen." 1 Timothy 1:17 NLT

    Lastly you're getting way ahead of yourself with this Higgs Boson. They are in very early stages of experimenting. There is so much data that still need to be scrutinized. And no we can't create something out of nothing, and no we will never be gods but will always be creative mortal human beings.For there is only one God, the Creator of the Universe and everything that exists.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=32&p=1062436179#post1062436179

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    8. Everything had to begin somewhere. Nothing is eternal.
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    In your human perspective and finite mind that is true when it comes to all living beings. However when it comes to Almighty God, He is the exception, for He is eternal, He is the uncaused being that caused everything else to come into existence.

    If you can get over the hurdle and accept this truth, then you will be on your way into enlightenment.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=36&p=1062439861#post1062439861

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    9. You can keep saying that but it does not explain the circular reference issue. Everything starts somewhere including god. Something can live until the end of time but it cannot have existed without a start. Even time started somewhere. There is always an Alpha and Omega. Pardon the pun.
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    Everything starts somewhere except for God. He had no beginning and has no end.

    God, who is the cause of everything must be an uncaused, changeless, timeless, and an immaterial being who created the universe.

    He must be uncaused because logically speaking there cannot be an infinite regress of causes.

    He must be timeless and therefore changeless, at least without the universe, because He created time.

    Because He also created space, He must transcend space as well and therefore be immaterial, not physical.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=38&p=1062443808#post1062443808

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    10. Ive been expressing my disbelief in your god as you all have justified it. Your god requires worship and sacrafice and punishes humans with death. That doesnt make sense for a true god. At all. A true god would not "require" worship. A false one would. For the official record. I was raised Catholic. I found most Priests to be very angry men. In second grade when they sat us down and told us to write down all the things Ive done wrong in the last week and confess our sins I explained I couldnt think of anything I had done wrong. The Priest became very angry with me and told me I had sinned, and I had better write them down. Confused I sat there as a child thinking this is very wrong behavior for adults. As I got older I realized it was a form of control. This is exactly why while you are in church they tell you to stand up, kneel, sit down, stand up, kneel, sit back down, stand up, give us money sit down. Its dog training 101. You are being conditioned by a group of people with the threat of eternal damnation. Utter BS. All that being said does not mean I have a disbelief in god. Until we know how the big bang occured (which as of yesterday we are one step closer to understanding that) none of us can say for certain how it all started. Not you and not me. I require proof of something before I waste my only life worhsipping something a group of "men" wrote down in a book. Especially since that book is rife with hypocrisy. I have a disbelief in the human beings that use religion as a way of controlling others who are too weak willed not to notice.
    Since this question has long gone stale, I stated over a month ago since animals arent allowed in heaven, your belief is factually incorrect for me. It will not be bliss for me to floating around with the souls of other humans for eternity. That sounds like pure torturous hell to me. My version of heaven is much better and I refuse to let another human tell me what my eternal happiness should be. You should feel the same way, but I dont hold it against you. Almost all of my fellow second graders succombed to the brainwashing and made up things they did wrong for confession rather than risk being punished. I was punished by being forced to clean the pews for not understanding why I had to admit I did something wrong when I didnt. From that day forward I have always known I am right and people like you are dead wrong. True God requires nothing other than you to be a good person and enjoy the gift of life. Seems to me the greatest gift a god can give is life. Your religion dismisses it like waiting for time to pass while waiting for a bus.
    Your faith = spend your life worshipping youll get a gift at the end for doing exactly as other humans tell you.
    My faith = the gift is life, only a fool wastes it.
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    Sorry to hear you were traumatized by your Catholic priest at a very young age. And so I can understand your feelings, no wonder you are the way you are. You have resentment now, no wonder the hostility in much of your posts. It's all vividly clear now. I just don't know what else to say to you.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=335268&page=75&p=1063535514#post1063535514
     
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    Exactly what satan would want one to believe.
    Why didn't man write it down immediately upon receiving the message? Answer: Satan would NOT allow it.
     
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    So this must be like the 100th person who has misinterpreted a post of yours. Do you speak truth or deceiving? Truth would/could not be misinterpreted.

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    Holy shiite. If this isn't satan speaking, I don't know what is.
    Really, janitors are at the 'other place'. Holy shiite.
     
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    He is not a hypocrite. He is a spokesperson for SATAN. And is doing a fine job of it.
     
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    It is kind of strange that you would post all that because there is not one answer to a tough question ?

    One comment I did have was in relation to murder
    God told the Israelites to kill all the women and children in some of the cities they raided.

    If you hire someone to kill another person you are just as culpable as the killer. God was responsible for murder of many women and children (even some that were still in the womb which is equivalent to abortion).
     
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    read your last comment carefully. And I love the way you cherry pick comments. LOL If I find 11 personal insults do you agree to resign from the forum?
    Also, if I have a habit of informing you that you are in violation of forum guidelines its because you obviously violated forum guidelines and do so repeatedly. Whether it be personal insults or mis quoting or flat out attaching my name to other peoples words youve done it.
    When you say "no wonder you are the way you are" OR "wow you are misinformed" thats an insult as it infers that you are in a position to judge me as if there is something wrong with me when there isnt or you know more than me when you really dont. I will repeat this one more time. I have asked you questions which you solicited, you have again not liked the question, hurled insults and avoided the question. I asked you two specific questions recently, I know you read them, now where are the answers? You posted this to avoid answering the questions.
    From this point foward I will begin using an eye for an eye response.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Pretty please answer the last two questions I asked you. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
     
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    Yep, poor guy. Satan has a firm hold of him, well at least according to his faith and he doesnt realize it. Thats exactly how pretend satan works according to pretend world.
     
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    So Mitt has no time to answer the easy questions much less the tough ones but apparently has plenty of time to write the sequel to Gone with the Wind above that did anything except answer the questions. So, what I will do is keep reposting the questions until they are answered. Are there no other people of his faith that can help him "answer" some of these?

    Unanswered question #1
    Out of all accepted religions on earth which one is correct and why?

    Unanswered question #2
    What is the punishment God will assign to the Catholic priests who raped children and also to those who covered the horrific crimes up?

    Unanswered question #3
    What is the punishment God will assign to anyone who does not accept him?

    Note: keyword GOD

    Prediction he will not answer any of them, he will respond with a statement and then claim he "answered".
     
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    Christianity is the one true religion of the One True God because God has revealed Himself to us through Jesus Christ.

    Priest, Buddhist, Muslims, atheist, communist, liberals etc. all who have committed serious sins will be punish to eternal pain in Hell no one is exempt and God is the final judge and jury for that.

    There is no punishment for none acceptance "today you will be with me in paradise" Father forgive them for they know not what they do".
    God is all forgiving and just only the pure evil ones will be punish.

    It has already been answered.
     
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    The Persian empire was not so bad so was the Byzantine empire slavery was in every empires from the Persians, Byzantines, Hans, Srivijayan Empire, Zulus, Watusis, Incas, Azytecs etc. etc. all have slavery. All those empires are a form of religion in itself they all demand worship from their subjects as those kings and emperors all claim divinity and godliness you have to compare something from something if you really want to understand one subject from the other.

    The church has been neutral since the 1st century it has been teaching the way to heaven and at the same time the church can not stand idle and ignore the atrocities being committed especially from people who have pure disregard for human rights and they pry on the weak, the humble, the submissive and the conscientious objector at a certain point the church has to stand up against pure evil just like God had to stand up against Lucifer and the wickedness of man and to do the only thing necessary fight back.

    Yes I do agree because at that time the church was the arbitrator and had to balance itself by protecting Galileo and at the same not agitating the secular authorities. Remember, Galileo's theory was snot perfect there were flaws and Galileo was himself impatient as was learn the church has to be careful and they did the right thing. The church needed more informations before they can give their final judgement just like today the church still can not agree with secular evolutionary theory that man evolved from apes because there is total lack of such evidence but the church accept that as a theory and when the proper time comes when it is proven that man did evolved from apes or not than the church will officially accept that all indications is that man did not evolved from apes and that is the official position of the church.

    http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy
    As more recent science has shown, both Galileo and his opponents were partly right and partly wrong. Galileo was right in asserting the mobility of the earth and wrong in asserting the immobility of the sun. His opponents were right in asserting the mobility of the sun and wrong in asserting the immobility of the earth.

    Had the Catholic Church rushed to endorse Galileo&#8217;s views&#8212;and there were many in the Church who were quite favorable to them&#8212;the Church would have embraced what modern science has disproved.


    On 31 October 1992, Pope John Paul II expressed regret for how the Galileo affair was handled, and issued a declaration acknowledging the errors committed by the Catholic Church tribunal that judged the scientific positions of Galileo Galilei, as the result of a study conducted by the Pontifical Council for Culture.

    The church did try it's best to consult with Galileo but it was Galileo's own personal pride against his secular competitors that he refused to listen in spite of the fact that there is still missing informations on his theory and all the church was asking was please continue the research which in fact it was the church that was funding and supporting Galileo's science.
    The winner here are the anti church people because they used Galileo against the church by presenting or misrepresenting the true facts and events making it appear that is was the church who went after Galileo and not Galileo's rivals outside of the church. Remember the church got drag into it after Galileo and his rivals could not agree the church was at that time the final judge and just like today's supreme court they have to take everything into account.

    In NFL football analogy "insufficient evidence or video replay to over turn a call" three weeks later officials will learn through careful video review that a call was wrongly made.
     
  19. Mitt Ryan

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    Below is an exchange of responses between you and I.
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    That's funny coming from an atheist who doesn't believe in sins, calling me sinful.

    To the atheistic world-view right and wrong don't exist. That's why to me it's funny when an atheist calls someone sinful...lol
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    Wow I cant believe you missed the intentional sarcasm. Ill explain it.
    Actually I dont think its sinful at all. But you do. Im just pointing out the hypocrisy that you religious types force people to confess sins and repent them but have NOOOOOOooooooo problem whatsover when you do the same things you force others to repent.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=293827&page=39&p=1062444186#post1062444186

    So as we see above, you have admitted using intentional sarcasm and if you admit to doing it once you must have done it quadzillions of times in your posts to numerous of other posters besides doing it to me.

    Sarcasm/sarcastic remarks are defined as a taunting, sneering, or caustic remark which implies intent to hurt by taunting with mocking ridicule.

    Those can be classified as being vitriolic sardonic responses. Vitriolic defined as extremely biting or caustic, sharp and bitter. Sardonic defined as disdainfully or bitter sneering, ironical or sarcastic.

    Conclusion: Your statement, "Im not angry, hateful or spiteful at all. I simply tell it like it is. You guys know it, thats why you respond with vitriolic sardonic responses." is under suspect. For you have admitted that you intentionally use sarcasm which could be classified as vitriolic sardonic responses.
     
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    Do you ever actually answer any questions? Oh wait don't answer that Im still waiting for the last three. See? Sarcasm is not hatred or anger. That's why its called sarcasm. All you do is troll. I have reduced you to that like I did those faith thumpers of my youth. I have done so because you are out of answers. Fourth or fifth time I have asked you to answer. Are you thinking Im going to forget? because I can assure you when you intentionally try to change the direction it makes me focus even more on bringing you around to staying on topic in your own thread. Don't ask me though ask the mods to review the posts to see how many times Ive asked you to simply answer the questions without the drama.
    So........Answer or stop wasting my time please.
     
  21. Mitt Ryan

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    Is this another example of a vitriolic sardonic response?
     
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    6th time asking. Please answer the questions and stay on topic (again in your own thread)
     
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    Your statement is not true...in its entirety! I have answered Parts 1 through 4, and currently I'm on Part 5 answering questions. But at the moment I have to respond to a false statement such as this one to set the record straight.
     
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    Sorry Mitt is going to answer the questions I asked him not you. I do not want them parsed. They were specific and I want specific answers. Also you quoted incorrectly.....AGAIN. PLease put the "[" back on so I am notified. Clever you religious types try to deceive the other readers by appearing as if you answered without the person being notified. Correct it, the mods have already told me to notify them if it happened again. Do we need to do that or can you religious guys actually be honest. Once is a mistake repeated over a year is a dishonest person.

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    You did it on this post as well. Its not a mistake its intentional.
     
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    Looks like one of those vitriolic sardonic type questions coming from AO again.

    Well anyway good response Inc.! And good work responding to our non-believing friends Inc.!
     
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