Part 17 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    I guess you never heard of "scientific theology"...eh? Many think the term scientific theology is an oxymoron. Theology, they say, has to do with God and the supernatural, and science is the study if nature, The two have nothing to do with each other.

    But the reality is that science and theology have profound interactions with each other, thus we have scientific theology.
     
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    I'm still waiting:

    Clear this up:

    When I was born in 1934 the average life expectancy of a White male in the United States was 61. If someone survived their first heart
    attack they would mope around essentially incapcitated for a couple of years then die. Cancer was a death sentence. The only treatment was surgery and over half the time the tumor metasticised and spread all through the body and usually they lasted a year after that at the most. Wednesday evening prayer meetings all over this country were crowded and prayer lists were a foot long. Every family either had a member or a close friend who was sick or dying. People prayed till their knees were bloody and the aflicted suffered and died anyway. Where was the invisible man in the sky?
    Now the average life expectency of a White male at birth is 78. Thanks to the spin offs from the moon landing in the late 60's we have sophisticated diagnostic systems, MRI, CTscans, ultrasound, echocardiogram, endoscopy, colonoscopy, heart catherization procedures, stents, bypasses, transplants, stem cell technology, chemo, radiation and limited invasive surgical procedures which produce much lower mortality statistics. What about
    the millions upon millions who died or suffered unmercifully before all this technology and research came about? Did anything the prayer group did have any effect at all?

    A short while back one of my high school mates about 78 years old actually ask all of us to pray for positive results for an
    abdominal ultrasound and colonoscopy she had scheduled. Turned out she had indigestion. The prayers must have worked on that one.
     
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    Then you should have a link or proof that you can show us 'your' holy bible tells you moses was the author. Is this the same 'holy bible' that you use that you have told us all is out of print due to errors? You have not said you have switched to an updated version of the out of print edition.
     
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    Keep your pants on. Your questions will be answered in 2-2.5 yrs. Be patient.
    He is over 1.5 yrs behind now. Answering questions to folks who may have died already.
     
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    Josephus is another very credible non Christian historian.
     
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    Zeus revealed himself to humans numerous times as did his daughter Athena and Son Apollo. Like the God of Abraham Zeus sometimes had sex with human females.

    In one instance
    Sounds like an early form of Baptism. In any case the result of this immaculate conception was the birth of the God Dionysius.

    Apollo- another of Zeus's sons was revered as the Sun God just like Jesus.

    How do you know these things about heaven ? Did God tell you ?
     
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    More denial. Rather than discuss the scripture at hand you attack the messenger (Logical fallacy Ad Hom)

    Then you engage in more logical fallacy (appeal to the masses) but the funny thing is that the majority of Christianity does not agree with Sola Fide.

    Sad that all you can come up with in defense of your beliefs is to attack the person rather than the argument and to make untrue claims about Christians.
     
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    Again you choose to attack the person rather than address the topic. Is logical fallacy all you have ?

    If you think there is another possible interpretation of the scripture under discussion then give it.

    If you think that someone has an incorrect interpretation then point out why you think your interpretation is better or why theirs is wrong.

    So far all you have done is try and demonize the messenger = logical fallacy (Ad Hom)

    Is the foundation for your belief so weak that you have no valid arguments and have to resort to invalid fallacy ?

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    I know with absolute certainty that often you answer questions by demonizing the questioner (which is not really and answer to the question but it is logical fallacy).
     
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    Yes indeed, he is another very credible non Christian historian. :salute:
     
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    Nostradamus and Edgar Cayce also tell us how the world will end. Edgar mentions meteors.

    Revelations also mentions what many think is an asteroid impact: Rev 8:10-11

    This seems like a description of an asteroid falling as it clearly looks like a star falling from the sky and the debris thrown into the atmosphere raining down could cause the water to become undrinkable.

    Revelations was not considered Canonical in the early days of Christianity.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/anxiousbench/2013/07/approving-revelation/

    Revelations, like Nostadamus and Cayce, is looked upon by many as a prophetic vision. Neither has more or less merit than the other.
     
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    I'm 80 years old. I might not have enough time left to be patient.
     
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    I have found this to be a jewish trait. Ever listen to a jew speak? Gentile: Hi Mr. Abrahms, how are you today? Mr. Abrahms: Oy Vey! How should I know what vith dis terrible holocaust denial going on?? Gentile: What?? You mean there's actually people out there who don't think 6 million of your beautiful hooked-nosed people died at the hands of the evil Nazis? Mr. Abrahms: You mean 11 million don't you?? They ALWAYS answer a question WITH a question.
    Same way with the xtians. It's always a circular logic with them as they believe the bible is truth and god wrote the bible and god is infallible and the bible is gods truth... As we grow up and become adults, we put AWAY childish things and we just HAVE to grow up and face reality. We quit believing in Santa and the Easter Bunny; we stopped believing in fairies and elves, the undines and the dwarves because they're not real. Why do they still persist in believing blindly some yid book of lies, myths, wishes and happy horse(*)(*)(*)(*)? And the REAL kicker is if they actually read the Talmud and saw for themselves how the jews feel about xtians, well, I'm sure they'd lose a few million followers and supporters of the treasonous non-state of Israel.
    Xtianity is only good for one thing: pussifying the Gentiles and taking away their spines and balls by forcing them to turn the other cheek (instead of bashing in his skull, you Beta Male emo crybaby), love thy (black, Latrino or other non-white illegal POS who hates your religion) neighbor and give up all your money to (the jew via illegal kosher taxes, income taxes and illegal usery behind the scenes since they own the Fed Reserve) Mammon and never worry about tomorrow like the sparrow becaws god will always take care of you (esp if you're black or non-white and on welfare). And if god doesn't, the stupid compassionate lemming xtians will.
    Don't the xtians know that the jews write that Jesus aka Balaam, is in hell being boiled in semen and all xtians are being boiled in excreta?
     
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    Not true. Nostradamus and Cayce made incorrect predictions and
    that harms their credibility to the point of luck guesses. The Book of
    the Revelation hasn't which give it far more credibility.
     
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    What good does "love the sinner but hate the sin" do when the end result is punishment for the sinner anyway?
     
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