Part 17 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. dairyair

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    The bible is 100% trust worthy. Has exact lineages from A&E to Jesus. Yet, it can't be used to age the earth or approximate the world wide flood.
    Seems like people only use the bible for very specific agendas, and has no real trust worthiness.
     
  2. Mitt Ryan

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    Are we suppose to know the answer to a question like that? We can only theorize, speculate, guess, kinda like those scientists that tell us dinosaurs were created millions of years before humans.

    Even though they have their scientific contraptions we can never be absolutely sure of their accuracy.

    And since we humans have a finite mind not having insight to 100% of all knowledge which is another way of saying we are not omniscient we can really never know the answers to questions that boggle us.
     
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    Guess there is NO point to this thread. Just a joke for all.
     
  4. Mitt Ryan

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    Yes because dinosaur fossils are common world wide but I just don't know how accurate our brilliant scientists are when they theorize that they lived millions of years ago.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

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    Yes, he was wrong. Albert Einstein was a German-born theoretical physicist who developed the theory of general relativity, effecting a revolution in physics. For this achievement, Einstein is often regarded as the father of modern physics and one of the most prolific intellects in human history.

    So, what was the reason Albert Einstein rejected the existence of a personal God? Einstein recognized the remarkable design and order of the cosmos, but could not reconcile those characteristics with the evil and suffering he found in human existence. How could an all-powerful God allow the suffering that exists on earth?

    Einstein's error ( like most other non-believers)

    Einstein's failure to understand the motives of God are the result of his incorrect assumption that God intended this universe as His ultimate perfect creation. Einstein could not get past the moral problems that are present in our universe.

    He assumed, as most atheists do, that a personal God would only create a universe which is both good morally and perfect physically. However, according to Christianity, the purpose of the universe is not to be morally or physically perfect, but to provide a place where spiritual creatures can choose to love or reject God - to live with Him forever in a new, perfect universe, or reject Him and live apart from Him for all eternity.

    It would not be possible to make this choice in a universe in which all moral choices are restricted to only good ones. Einstein didn't seem to understand that one could not choose between good and bad if bad did not exist. It's amazing that such a brilliant man could not understand such a simple logical principle.

    Conclusion

    No, Albert Einstein was not a Christian or even a theist (one who believes in a personal God), probably because he failed to understand why evil existed. These days, those who fail to understand the purpose of evil not only reject the concept of a personal God, but also reject the concept of God's existence altogether.

    If you are an agnostic or atheist, my goal for you would be to recognize what Albert Einstein understood about the universe - that its amazing design demands the existence of a creator God. Then, go beyond Einstein's faulty understanding of the purpose of the universe and consider the Christian explanation for the purpose of human life and why evil must exist in this world.

    http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/einstein.html
     
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    It took you 492 days to respond. Post ignored.
     
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    It took you 492 days to respond post ignored.
     
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    Is it immoral to consider null and void any fallacies from Persons claiming morals under Job 34:30?
     
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    If you do not think that you should write things that makes sense to those around you that is your choice.
     
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    Actually, I was thinking that those around me (on this forum) would be able to make sense of a somewhat common vernacular. Oh well, I guess I was in error on that point... because some people prefer to fancy themselves as superior in intellect.
     
  11. Mitt Ryan

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    Rules are there because God put them there and we have only begun discovering them.

    We know we didn't put them there but they are there...is it all just an accident? I don't believe so. It's there from intelligent design.

    The knowledge we have accumulated up to this point in our history still hasn't provided us answers to questions such as why are we here, what is the purpose for living, how did we begin to exist, the answers to those questions have eluded us when looking at it in a scientific perspective.

    Science could never answer those types of questions, but thanks to our Creator God, He has provided us those answers in the Holy Bible.

    It's already there in an historical, instructional book given to us by our Creator.
     
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    The rules come from the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi which predate Moses.
     
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    A positive claim. No proof. Fail.

    Now contradiction. States a belief instead of a positive claim. Fail.

    .Why does there have to be answers?

    And in a previous post you admit it can't provide answers. What good is it.

    Why do you continually state you don't know how old the earth is, how long ago the flood occurred, when the dinosaurs lived? You have your history book. You just claimed it.
    Does your history book give us the name of the pharoah that moses gave the plagues to? That God hardened this pharoah's heart. That was moses' egyptian mothers brother. Moses forgot the pharoah's name when writing about him.
     
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    If only God knows who is right then why do you keep claiming to know ? Are you God ?

    I thought only God knows? How do you know who put the rules if only God knows ?

    How do you know if the Bible contains answers if only God knows.?

    How do you know that the Bible was given to humans by God if only God knows?

    Talk about a heaping side of arrogance (speaking for God) combined with a big does of hypocrisy.
     
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    Test for god to prove that he/it exists:

    Place one atheist and one xtain together, face-to-face and give them both baseball bats. They are instructed to protect themselves from getting whacked with the bat. The xtain prays to god for protection and BLAMMO! Gets knocked into a coma for a month. After 6 more months of recovery the xtian gets to swing at the atheist. Just before he does, the atheist jumps forward, grabs the baseball bat away from him and BLAMMO! Whacks him in the head with it again. Proof positive that some mythical jewish god will never save you. War and life has proven that little fact. Both atheists and xtians died despite prayers and luck.
     
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    some on the left may believe we can tell simply by any lack of a moral of "goodwill toward men".
     
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    Yes of course, that's why when something bad happens the religious cite "free will" and when something good happens they cite "God". Their hypocrisy is complete.
     
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    kinda smarts, don't it, when someone rubs your face in the puddle.
     
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    only when they were claiming to opposite in public venues and only once, usually.
     
  20. Mitt Ryan

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    Well the bible tells us how everything will end, one just need to read the Book of Revelation in the Holy Bible.

    There is no mention of asteroid impacts and so it's obvious in what we can conclude here in regard to your question.
     
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    Sorry but that can't be classified as a fact, it is just a theory. A fact is something like this which is indisputable.

    Fact: The sun is very hot.
     
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    Not true that there are more proven facts about dinosaurs than there is about the bible. It is just a biased statement.

    Furthermore it is just speculative theories on your statement that, "We can even tell what they ate and how they died and the time period in which they existed."

    You have presented no facts. Again below is an example of a fact.

    Fact: The moon is not made out of cheese.
     
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    Next I suppose you are going to tell us human beings are descendents of ape-like creatures...eh?...lol
     
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    There may be some religious people who say that but it's a far cry
    from being hypocritical.
     
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    And to top it all off, just a few posts earlier he states no one can answer the questions regarding God and religion.
    Pretty much stating his thread is useless.
     
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