Part 17 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

You've noticed that too?

Perhaps he should do the world a favor and write a new bible for us all that means what it says ... then he won't have to keep telling the world what the book means when it clearly says something else.

 

You are preaching to the choir with me. As an agnostic the actual historical study of the bible doesn't threaten any of my life's foundational philosophies but it sure seems that way for certain types of christians posting on this thread .

I'm well aware of the inconsistencies and the reappearing king in the book and unlike others have no problem acknowledging them... but then again I don't stand to destroy everything I blindly believe because of these inconsistencies.

If I did I would think that a good indicator changing those beliefs might be prudent. That is the difference between blind belief and reason ... reason is willing to change should logic and new information dictate, blind belief will continue to beat it's dead horse forever!

 

There are two wonderful things that I'm tired of "so called conservatives" acting like they own.

The King James Bible, and the Constitution.

They cherry pick the living crap out of both.

 

A distinct lack of material and increase in Ad Hom. Either that or just refusing to acknowledge a response.

As an answer posting directly from the "God Answers" link and when shown that the "answer" is ridiculous will not acknowledge the response nor try and counter any of the points made.

Waste of time for the most part. He should just say nothing and put the link in the OP and say- go here for answers to all of the worlds problems.

It is kind of a form of "link worship" rather than belief in the Bible. Not only is the Bible the "Literal word of God". Now the Got Answers Link is also the "Literal word of God"

 

The same could be said regarding many of the postulates made by scientists.

So much for opinions. I stated what you reference as an opinion and you have stated yours. Now what?

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[TD]Gen 6:20
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[TD]Of fowls after their kind, and of cattle after their kind, of every creeping thing of the earth after his kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, to keep them alive.


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[TD] Gen 6:21

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[TD]And take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten, and thou shalt gather it to thee; and it shall be for food for thee, and for them.
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[TD] Gen 6:22

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[TD]¶Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.
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The Bible is the very word of God. The Bible came from God Himself, He is the author. He inspired certain individuals to write down what He wanted to tell humankind over a period of hundreds of years.

We read in Scripture from one of Jesus' closest followers, Peter, who wrote, "Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet’s own understanding, or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God."---2 Peter 1:20-21 NLT

God wrote the Bible because basically He sent a message through the Bible to us and be vividly clear in that He loves us and has a plan to save us from the destructive power of sin.

I know because I have absolute faith and trust in Almighty God the Creator!

 

Well if everything in the CE is not true then there goes its credibility. Same with the Holy Bible if we were to say not everything in the Holy Bible is true then it wouldn't be credible anymore...now would it?

But because everything in the Bible is true then we can still positively say the Bible is credible after all the Bible is the infallible Word of God!

 

Maybe it'd be the SAME Bible...but with little notes scribbled on the side margins saying ["Okay where it says ABCDEF....that's not what it says, it means GHIJKL, because obviously if it said ABCDEF it would contradict something later in the Bible. So what it means is something completely different from what you are reading there."

 

Same deal with MR....he doesn't have to come up with "answers to tough questions"...."gotquestions.org" does all the thinking for him.

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We joke about it...but there it is.

"The Bible proves....that the Bible is true!"

 

"God is the author....but others wrote it down."

At some point, can't that degenerate into ...

"God cured polio.....but Jonas Salk came up with the vaccine"?

 

You still got 18 or more authors to check out, just because the first 12 have Evangelical credentials it doesn't mean all 30 or more authors have Evangelical credentials.

Now is that doing a thorough work in researching?...absolutely not!

 

Speaking about "bias" weren't you exhibiting your bias towards Evangelicals when you made the quote below:

So it makes sense why you won't accept anything from the Evangelicals, it's just because of your bias/prejudice against them.

 

I've yet to see any legitimate scientist base any scientific proclamation on a book of fables or their wild made up tale they attach to that book of fables.

Again you cloak yourself in hyperbole to successfully circumnavigate the realization of a potential loss of face.

This is the reason your thread about the "printed" bible was closed ... you don't debate you insinuate nobody is correct about anything but you and side step with insults uncomfortable observations to your point of view.



So let's try again. Why would you claim ...

When there is absolutely no biblical evidence for this at all?

Do you feel entitled to just make up any old thing to support your presupposed dogma and then just expect us all to take it as some divine revelation?



If this is your game please don't be too disappointed when I point out that ... "the emperor has no clothes"!

 

I almost feel sorry for them that they can't see this!

I can't imagine wanting something to be true so much that I would sacrifice my intellect and integrity to manipulate a silly book to prove that I'm right and you don't know what you are talking about ... just to avoid acknowledging I may be wrong about something.

 

From my perspective, that is exactly what you are doing.

 

Certainly the credibility is reduced. This does not mean you throw the baby out with the bath water. Each claim should be vetted on its own merits.

That the titles of the Gospels (Matt, John) do not likely relate to the Authors is not a secret.

You are 2 for 2. Indeed the Holy Bible does contain errors, interpolation, omission and so on.

I have already shown you that the Bible has errors, omission, interpolation. Since the meaning of various passages in different Bibles is not the same, the Bible is indeed fallible.

 

When all else fails - Logical fallacy can prove that anything is true.

 

Quit replying to posts to another poster from long ago when I have already refuted this nonsense later in the thread.

 

I never said I do not accept anything from Evangelicals. I will accept any "valid" argument regardless of the source.

Did you have something other than Appeal to Authority (Logical Fallacy) .

The fact that most Evangelicals believe in the Literal Noah's flood does not make it true.

 

Wow! Fact: something believed to be true or real.
Seems to me that the fact which is believed to be true is true to the one who believes it to be true.
I do believe that each of us are entitled to have our own beliefs regardless of what others might believe.

 

You can believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Green Goblin if you wish. Your belief in something does not make it True.

 

Gee thanks, but I don't really need your permission to believe whatever I desire to believe. If I believe in something, then in my mind it is 'true'... whether you like it or not.

 

Something being true in your fantasy world does not make it true in reality.

Did you have a question you wanted answered or are you going to continue to derail the thread by trying to inject the world of Fantasy into reality ?

 

It's actually based in reason, logic and common sense.

 

I am in this reality, therefore, it is true in this reality.

There is no injection of a fantasy world. As stated above, I am in this reality, therefore my beliefs are in this reality... therefore, my beliefs are real ... a part of this reality.

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Reason is something that everyone without some neurological impediment experience: logic is not a requirement for reason to exist; "common sense" is the sense without any refinement,,, it is crude and vulgar.