Part 18 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Part 18 is a continuation of Post your tough questions pertaining to God/Jesus/Holy Bible and I will do my best to clarify and make sense of it to those who are unaware...I still have questions unanswered in Part 6 thru 17.

Also I might answer questions that are on other members threads and so this will keep me real busy with the many questions that I will answer from my point of view/perspective keeping in line with Scripture.

I don't want my intentions to come across as converting you or whatever lol... but rather clear up things etc... so ask away.

 

When it comes to unicorns, leprechauns, werewolves, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster I could care less about their existence/non existence, I certainly don't need anyone to prove/disprove their existence/non existence to me, in other words...who cares, I certainly don't care?...lol

Furthermore I'm sure you could care less about those characters too but tell me why do you challenge the existence of an Almighty God, the Creator?

Why do you care about voicing /expressing your disbelief in the Almighty? Is His existence a threat to you? No need to answer that question cause I already know the answer.

 

That is all it is...an opinion, an opinion that is utterly useless I might add and so that's what's wrong with stephen's opinion.

Unless stephen has insight to 100% of all knowledge which I highly doubt that he has, his opinion again is utterly useless when speaking in terms beyond the grave and the reason why people have faith in heaven and the afterlife!

 

You need to post a few incorrect predictions from each to validate your claim.

In any case, the Bible makes incorrect predictions as well. Jesus said the end would come in the lifetimes of those listening to him and it never happened.

That some prophet made an incorrect prediction does not increase the validity of some other prophet.

 

Please show Book, chapter and verse where such (highlighted text above) is established in the 'Bible'.

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[TD]Deu 18:17
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[TD]And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that
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[TD] Deu 18:18

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[TD]I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.[/TD]
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[TD] Deu 18:19

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[TD]And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.[/TD]
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[TD] Deu 18:20

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[TD]But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.[/TD]
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[TD] Deu 18:21

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[TD]And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?[/TD]
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[TD] Deu 18:22

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[TD]When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.[/TD]
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That is why I don't do prophecies.

 

Well that and the fact that Revelations was thought to be spurious even by the early Christians up to and including Eusebius and that the dudes who decided to include it later were nasty control freaks who thought fraud was ok so long as it furthered Church doctrine.

 

So, because you are showing evidence of you leaning on the thoughts of others, then those others are your authority figures? Are you now suggesting that you KNOW what those people thought, even when it is recognized that the teachings of the 'Bible' come from incomplete sets of writings by virtually unknown authors? Like wow!

 

We know what they thought from what they said.

 

What who said? Do you actually KNOW who said what?

 

So what's the deal with "love the sinner but hate the sin"?

Isn't that kind of a redundant thing when the sinner is going to be punished for sinning anyway?

 

Right, my apologies, we do not actually know what anyone said or says because interpretation of what someone says is based on subjective human thought and therefore unprovable.

 

How sweet of shangrila to consitently guide us to a new thread every time it gets full.
So good of PF to provide us links.

 

Historically speaking, we simply DON'T KNOW who wrote those documents. We speculate on who wrote them and come to conclusions. It is those speculations and conclusions that are subjective. Not the historical documents themselves. The historical documents are the historical documents. How they are interpreted or translated or who they are assigned to as regarding authorship is what is subjective. Keep the facts straight.

 

First off we know that a computer does not create itself, it took the ability of humans to create and make functional a computer.

Just like the creation of a computer, it took a being to create the first entire human body. The human body just didn't pop itself into being without a mind and then progressively created a mind to go along with its body...lol

This is like saying the computer created itself which we know is false.

But then someone might ask, "Well then who created God?"...here comes the mind boggling part... the answer is no one created God for He had no beginning or has no end, He is the Eternal One, the Creator of the universe and everything else that exists!

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The birth, the life, the ministry of His teachings, the miracles He performed, the death by crucifixion and the resurrection of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ was no theory, but was an historical record written in the New Testament of the Holy Bible based on first-hand witness accounts that took place some 2,000 yrs. ago.

Now you tell me...what is more credible, the historical record based on first-hand witness accounts taking place 2,000 years ago or a theory based on speculation and guesswork of something that is theorized as happening millions of years ago?

I'd say the historical record of Jesus as being more credible.

 

Is that why sometimes when I get irritable I scream out...huhuhaha!...huhuhaha!... huhuhaha!?...lol

Look, ok I can respect your opinion and so it doesn't bother me that you think your great great great grand-dad was an ape monkey swinging from tree to tree eating a banana in the process.

I'll stick to my belief in the Holy Bible, I like the part in Scripture where it says, Then God said, "Let us make human beings in our image, to be like ourselves. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds of the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground." So God created human beings in His own image. In the image of God He created them; male and female He created them." Genesis 1:26-27 NLT

 

If you call theories, speculation, guesswork plenty of proofs, well yes, you are absolutely right there's certainly plenty of that my good man.

The thing that is missing though is the conclusive, indisputable evidence that is beyond a reasonable doubt. Needless to say that will always be missing and so like my good freind WanRen said, "It is ironic that anti Christian always ask for proof but in Darwin's case they seem to be satisfy that humans evolve from apes even without any proof."

 

Your posts flip flop like the ears of a bunny.
One post, only God knows, man knows nothing.
Next post, the bible is a historical account and jesus lived 2000 years ago.
Next post, we don't know when the flood occurred. The bible doesn't give us an exact date. Neither has it given us an exact date of jesus. But you claim you know any how.

I'd say there is no credibility from the answers you give us. Try being consistent and credibility will follow.

 

We have an awfully inefficient body. It definately needs some improvements.

 

I agree that we do not know who wrote most of the books of the Bible. We have a somewhat higher degree of confidence in the authorship of some of the Pauline epistles.

Your problem is that you reject anything that is not 100% provable out of hand and this is an absurd position having little to do with reality.

 

Now his is rich. The dude that can not wrap his mind around any concept that poses even the smallest challenge to his man made religious beliefs telling another to "wrap his mind" around something.

 

One more time:

So what's the deal with "love the sinner but hate the sin"?

Isn't that kind of a redundant thing when the sinner is going to be punished for sinning anyway?

 

actually you don't know the answer at all. you IMAGINE certain things because it gives the appearance (in your mind) of lending your position legitimacy. the ACTUAL answer is: because people who believe in the great sky leprechaun known as Yahweh, are far more numerous and potentially dangerous than those who believe in the flying spaghetti monster.

 

ouch..!!

 

God didn't just appear from nowhere for He has no beginning or no end, He is the Eternal One, the Creator who just exist.

Since we know the universe had a beginning, then we can conclude that the origin of the matter that constitutes the universe came from God.

Wrap your finite minds around that my non-believing friends!