Part 18 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    One can hope. But based on the posts I've seen in these threads, you won't like the direction you will go. False teachers don't go with Jesus.

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    The lies posted in these threads.
     
  2. dairyair

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    Condescending, snobbish, name calling, is that the love you refer to? Or is it that false religion that obligates the traits?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The earth without humans would not survive?! LOL batsh&* crazy talk. Also, the Higgs Boson isn't open to your interpretation. Everyone reading this except for you apparently knows what it is. But please keep saying how you agree with it for a few more posts before I fill you in on the part you are missing.
    So when you guys said earlier that humans do not evolve who was lying? Because now you say they are evolving? If you aren't going to answer then no offense but Im going to stay away from the nutty threads and go back to politics where at least people deal in reality and answer questions in real-time.
     
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    Where is this proof Wan ren? You keep saying it exists but here we are 18 threads later and your still babbling the same nothing posts.
     
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    Ill remind you..first it was humans didn't evolve, now its humans evolved from cavemen. (thats the flip flop wan) So lets see, tell us wan ren now that you have stated we evolved from cavemen which ones did we evolve from? You tell us.
     
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    This explains where and how the human race evolved: http://humanorigins.si.edu/resources/intro-human-evolution
    This explains why apes have not developed as much as humans: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2394573/
     
  7. Mitt Ryan

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    You must be high on some bad meth!...lol For your comprehension is obviously faulty.

    I did not say they were eyewitnesses, I said these prophecies were written anywhere from 400 to 1000 years before Jesus' birth, yet they describe His life with the accuracy of an eyewitness.

    And so I was noting that these prophecies were so remarkable that were just as good as if they were first-hand eyewitness accounts, not that they were...there's a difference but when one has comprehension issues they won't understand anything they read...lol
     
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    Question: If God is holy and perfect, why did he create an imperfect being like humans in the first place? Why would he deliberately tempt Adam & eve by placing the apple tree of knowledge in the garden of Eden? Wouldn't that be similar to medical staff deliberately leaving cocaine on a table in a rehabilitation clinic, knowing that someone there would take the cocaine? Is that not a deliberate act of entrapment?
     
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    Easy. If one believes that God is what many claim him to be then this world is a nursery and a test to see who is worthy of joining Him in the afterlife. If there is no temptation and we are not given free will with opportunity to do good or evil based on what we are inclined to one another then everybody, Hitler, Saddam etc would join Him which lumps the unworthy in with the worthy. This view is held by many philosophers to explain why bad things happen to good people and, a way of coping for those who can't find any rhyme or reason as to why their lot is so terrible in comparison to others.

    At least that's one explanation anyhow. Logically if I were God and wanted company or a pet project of some type I'd rather have sentient beings with awareness and free will rather than muppets on a pre programed course that gave no surprises or joy.
     
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    What you call "scripture" is a handful of books chosen by a bunch of rich elitist Bishops to be the "word of god" because it best matched their personal and political views. There were many sects that accept more than the bible as scripture, Mormonism being a prime example in modern times. There are many beliefs and teachings that don't appear in the bible that early Christians accepted.

    Look at the catholics. Most of their central beliefs of the church never once appear in the bible. Ever.
    Needing to confess to a priest to be cleansed of sins
    The Pope being infallible
    Unbabtized babies being barred from heaven and sent to purgatory

    Christians have a history of making (*)(*)(*)(*) up and calling it scripture.
     
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    Mr. Higgs is not the creator of the Higgs Boson or God particle he was the discoverer everyone who is reading this knows that except you.
    When people say that humans evolved from apes that is a lie and science has proven that is a lie are you one of them who accept this lie?
    Politics is full of lies politicians are number one liars.
     
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    All 18 threads has proven that God exist and is the creator of the Higgs-Boson particle, creator of the universe, creator of humans, apes, primates, fish, birds, plants, insects, rocks, etc. etc. we have answered all tough questions that include the historicity and scientific aspects and the proof is science and this actual world and universe. Have you any proof to refute any of these? Do you know who created the Higgs-Boson or God-particle? Do you know who created apes?
     
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    Oh no that is called editing on your part because I accept and believe that humans evolved from human kind not from apes. Me and my ancestors evolved from Adam and Eve.
    How about you from which ape species did your ancestors evolved from or do you believe now that your ancestors or humans in general evolved from caveman and not apes?
     
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    Excellent link
    http://humanorigins.si.edu/resources/intro-human-evolution
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2394573/

    And in that link at least it state clearly that humans did not evolved from apes so we can clearly say that humans and apes evolved from their own kind

    According to that link both humans and apes evolved from a single ancestor a primate afterwards apes and humans split and start evolving according to their own. Question is who is that single ancestor? Does this mean that all other creatures evolved from something else?
    All scientific research and experiments have failed to make an ape any equal to human or evolved into a human. Even if they transplant human brain into an ape that ape will not evolved into human because it is the human soul that makes us humans the human soul that is not present in any creatures including apes the soul that is endowed to us by God. And if we read the Bible it makes sense:
    Genesis 1: 20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
    21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
     
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    So your God is not omniscient with the fore knowledge of how all this will turn out. Who will be there and who won't. Your God is different than most as most have an omniscient God.
     
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    How do you arrive at the conclusion that he has a different God and how do you arrive at the conclusion that his God is not omniscient?
     
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    Strawman. At no point did I ever say he created it, please stop lying.
    Sorry YOU SAID we evolved from CAVEMEN, I asked you which ones. You didn't answer and Im waiting.
     
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    FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP. Now you say we evolved from adam and eve. Can you please pick a stance and stick with it? Which is it, did we evolve from cavemen or is it now Adam and Eve?
     
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    Sorry wan ren, you only think you answered questions. The rest of us just saw sarcasm, personal insults and contradicting statements one after the other. Why look at how sinful the OP is (according to your religion) I asked him very nicely multiple times not to quote me in year and a half old posts and he still does it because he knows it irritates me, he does it on purpose which proves your religion at the very least completely full and rife with hypocrisy. He then has the audacity to complain to the mods when I refuse to answer him.
    Also please keep telling us about the Higgs Boson. In a few more posts Ill let you know why they call it the god particle. Hint: its not because it proves gods existence.
     
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    Now youre getting it!
     
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    If I can help:

    "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28 ).
    And
    “ Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.” (Matthew 24:34+35)

    It’s pretty clear from the NT that Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet and that his first followers expected God’s Kingdom to come in their lifetime. But note that Matthew also has Jesus tell his followers: “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.” (Matthew 24: 36)

    And it soon dawned on early Christians that it may take longer for that hour to come than they first expected: “But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.” (Peter 2:8+9)
     
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    And they did see such marvelous revelation.... It was on the day when Jesus (?) appeared before the twelve after his crucifixion. Judas even inserted his finger into the wound on his hand/wrist (depending on which leaning one is taking on that interpretation).

    The question is "what/which generation" was he speaking about? Apologetic preaching? Maybe, however the passage is not clear on that matter, until you take into account "until ALL these things take place". That clause would infer some future event. Future could mean five minutes from now or even 50,000 years from now.

    Exactly my point.

    Again that speaks to the point that I am making... no-one knows for sure.
     
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    Judas?
     
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    I'm sorry,,,, I meant to say Thomas.
     
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    Yes, as I stated before, humans did not evolve from apes. There are dozens of species that have been found along the history of human evolution that show the development of human traits up to this point. And as I stated before, monkeys do not have the capacity to use all the tools humans can use. This is what differentiates them from humans, not a 'soul endowed by God.'

    By the way, Bible quotes don't pass as scientific proof.
     
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