Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Yeah, and how many scientists believe in a global flood? They are of the smallest minority often influenced by their religious beliefs. You are claiming that a majority of scientists have debunked the idea of a global deluge based on their fear that God exists? Riiiight. That's a pretty big claim with nothing to back it up besides fear that the Flood didn't happen. How the hell could you possibly think that it's because scientists are fearful of the existence of God? The only way you could possibly know that is if they came out and said that.

So a book talks about places that used to exist, and? The Illiad talks about the city of Troy, but that doesn't mean the Hellenistic Gods actually existed as depicted in the book, does it?

Also, that History Channel YouTube video pretty much debunks the global flood, so, I don't know of you did that on purpose....

 

Why is it so hard for fundamentalists to just quit making things up and speaking falsehoods?

 

Its not "pretty much debunked'. unless you'd say the idea the moon is made of green cheese has been pretty much debunked.

That these guys insist on flood / green cheese anyway speak volumes about the rest of their beliefs

 

You just contradicted the Bible by even saying there were "righteous people"...

"As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;"----Romans 3:10

So....if you don't even know the Bible and even contradict it...how can we trust you on anything else about Christianity or the Bible???

 

I've never stated that.

Never studied RC or asked devout RC much about their religion. So I have a biased opinion coming from the Protestant side.

Pure conjecture on your part.

My question, I thought, was simple. What is the RC stance on the great flood. No more, no less.

Your opinion base on science or the official RC stance. As I wanted the RC stance. I had done a very quick google search and could not find the RC stance on its views of the Noah flood.

Not mine. Afraid God is not the same God as the bible states. As there seems to be many a conflict on the entity in the bible. And IMO, an all loving, all knowing benevolent being would not toss the majority of his creation into an eternal fire pit to torture for all eternity. Again, IMO.

 

He was sorry he made them? Then he must not have known they would become so evil. BTW - what is evil. Is it sin?

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And you think this is eternal torment?

 

I have answer ALL your questions with answers that you do not want to hear because what you want to hear is for me to deny truth but most of all to deny my God. Why do you deny the truth in science that a great flood did happen a flood that scientist believe is the Noah's flood, is it because your goal is not about truth but really it is about destroying truth?

You forgetting that human population was very isolated it is not what it is now by the billions, plus the wickedness of men is indeed everywhere we know now thanks to modern science ancient tribes in Central America, Asia, North America, Europe and Africa all practice human sacrifice, they teach and train their children to become killing machines in today's term that is = child soldier. Head hunting, rape, killing just for the sake of killing all kinds of wickedness from the first day a child is born is already being indoctrinated to be wicked.

Given many times, you just ignore them because I refuse to deny my God.

As I expected, you are not interested in truth your goal is about advancing falsehood, no amount of science will ever convince you as long as it relates to God, oh by the way scientist have already discover their understanding of God they called it the "God-particle".

Tell that to the scientist.

Science have already detected that they call it evolution.

 

Mt. Ararat is the highest in that region. Who said the flood was only 15 feet? maybe at your backyard. The flood is about estimate 17000 feet.

Genesis: 7:18-24
18 The waters rose and increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the water.
19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.
20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.
21 Every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind.
22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died.
23 Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits
Fifteen cubits is measure today as 23 feet, the verse means 23 feet of the mountain top was left. Science do accept that there is enough water to cause such catastrophic flooding what scientist is trying to understand how massive was it how far how global. So far they have found evidence of such flooding and scientist predicts that there will be another great flood maybe more catastrophic than the Noah's flood. You see, now we have scientist speaking and relaying the same message or similar to what Noah has relay to the people of his time. The warning scientist is telling us now is global warming.

 

Yes, there was a great flood in Uruk and Ur, hence the Epic of Gilgamesh, which Jewish authors altered and then added it to Genesis. But it wasn't a global flood, it was localized. It may have been all of the KNOWN world to these people at the time, but it certainly wasn't global in reality.

 

If the scientists are correct then God will break his covenant to man. Or the scientists are wrong.

 

If he was afloat for nearly 150 days, how come he didn't drift far from his home?

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How were all the original writing preserved?
It is very difficult today with the types of media we have to have things last a couple hundred years. How did documents written over 4000yrs ago survive? Did they survive?

 

Quote Originally Posted by Akhlut:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." - Jesus

How peaceful. :V
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Let's look at the passage of the verse you are referring to, Jesus said, "Don't imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword. I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Your enemies will be right in your own household." Matthew 10:34-36 NLT

Jesus did not mean to say that the object of His coming was to produce discord and contention, for He was the Prince of Peace. ("For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on His shoulders. And He will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 NLT)

but He means to say that such would be one of the effects of His coming. One part of a family that was opposed to Him would set themselves against those who believed in Him. The wickedness of men, and not the religion of the gospel, is the cause of this hostility.

This was prophesied to happen as we read Scripture from Micah 7:6 NLT, "For the son despises his father. The daughter defies her mother. The daughter-in-law defies her mother-in-law. Your enemies are right in your own household."

It is unnecessary to say that no prophecy has been more strikingly fulfilled; and it will continue to be fulfilled until all unite in obeying His commandments. Then His religion will produce universal peace.

 

Quote Posted by Mr_Truth:
Here's a question:

Why are right wing Christians so prejudiced, so filled with hate for Muslims, and such Pharisees?
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That is not the Christian way to be prejudiced, filled with hate for Muslims or anyone else for that matter. But of course there will always be some that stray from the teachings.

I can't speak for all Christians but I myself don't feel any bitter hate towards anyone or groups of people. I just feel sorry for anyone who doesn't believe in our Lord Savior Jesus Christ!

 

Quote Posted by Primus:

Illness and natural disasters.

The two things I can never quite excuse on faith. No free will, no one to blame. Only atrocity.
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First, it is essential to understand that God did not create human suffering. Our suffering came into the world through the Original sin and disobedience of Adam and Eve, our first parents. There was no suffering in the garden of Eden. It was only after the fall of Adam and Eve, and their expulsion from the Terrestrial Paradise that suffering came upon humanity. And so suffering originated from the actions of our free will.

Natural disasters, on the other hand, normally have natural causes that were put in motion at the creation of the earth. But, we must remember that it was not God's will or intention for us to live upon the earth--God's will and desire was that we live in the terrestrial paradise- the garden of Eden. Additionally, disease and physical handicaps have their origins with Original sin and the fall of man.

God does not will that man suffer, but He allows it because it is the result and effect of Original sin and our fallen nature. However God always seeks to draw good from everything, especially suffering.

 

Afraid to answer? I win.

 

actually, it's probably more essential to understand that if I knocked on your door and presented the above statement to you by way of explanation for suffering - but transposed your identifiers to a different mythology - you would assume I was barking mad. let's give it a shot, in the interests of science

First, it is essential to understand that Old Gregg (a disturbingly needy seaweed headed manwoman who lives in an undersea cave) did not create human suffering. Our suffering came into the world through Morris Dancing, and the disobedience of Spider Monkeys, our first parents. There was no suffering in the garden of Awesomeness. It was only after the fall of Atlantis, and their (the monkeys, presumably) expulsion from the Great Monkey Paradise that suffering came upon humanity.

 

Somewhere Tom Cruise is reading this going...."yes that makes perfect sense!"

 

he's a ripe little nutter that one, god love him. that's god with a small g.

 

wait,,,,I have to worship something 24/7? That doesnt sound happy or painless at all!!!!!!!!

 

No way,...

The flood was upon all "the Earth that was under the WHOLE heaven."

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

Bible people are foolish to avoid the correspondence of this as reference to the "flood" of Modern Homo sapiens Out-of-Africa as the scientists already have liken it too:


www. anthro.palomar.edu/homo2/mod_homo_4.htm


The replacement model of Christopher Stringer and Peter Andrews:
This hypothesis is also referred to as the "out of Africa", "Noah's ark" and "African replacement" model.

All other lines of humans that had descended from Homo erectus presumably became extinct.
From this view, the regional anatomical differences that we see among humans today are recent developments--evolving mostly in the last 40,000 years.[/I]

 

Do dogs go to heaven?