Part 20 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Part 20 is a continuation of Post your tough questions pertaining to God/Jesus/Holy Bible and I will do my best to clarify and make sense of it to those who are unaware...I still have questions and comments I haven't responded to in Part 6 thru 19.
Also I might answer questions that are on other members threads and so this will keep me real busy with the many questions that I will answer from my point of view/perspective keeping in line with Scripture.

I don't want my intentions to come across as converting you or whatever lol... but rather clear up things etc... so ask away.

 

Salvation is given by having faith in Jesus and by that I don't mean it means you have a license to sin.

You can do all the greatest works in the world which is good...don't get me wrong but what actually saves a person is to have faith in Jesus Christ, accept His sin debt payment He made on your behalf on the cross!

 

To you a non-believer it's an allegorical tale but to Christians it was a real-life historical event. God flooded the entire world to punish all but 8 people, and He also saved pairs of animals along with the 8 people He spared.

An example of allegory are the parables of Jesus.

I agree there is nothing wrong with an allegorical tale that has grasshoppers, ants, a talking fox as its characters until you try to make it historical fact.

 

What happens if I choose to go neither heaven or hell wan? Who is gonna make me go to hell?

Also, at no point did I ever say I reject God. I have told you over and over and over and over and over, I do not agree with YOUR version of it. I have also stated the reasons OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
Do I have to get a mod in again to tell you stop saying I said things I have not said?

 

Only you yourself can make yourself go either Heaven or Hell. Because you were as you claim a good person but you reject God's hand to welcome you into Heaven God will still assist you to chose either go to Purgatory to cool off and think seriously where you really want to go or you can go to Hell.
So you don't reject God? Say it so the MOD can hear do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God? Do you reject Satan?
Yes please get the MOD involved.

 

I reject 'god', the biblical 'jesus' and 'satan'. All 3 are imaginary creatures.

 

I don't want to go to heaven hell or purgatory. Who is going to make me go anywhere I don't want to go wan?

 

I have watch many nature programs, science programs and read many books and so far no evidence that apes are more intelligent than humans or that they will ever evolved into humans.
The only way chimps or apes can gain or become as or more intelligent than humans is through human intervention and that is what is happening human science are now experimenting not only with apes but will all other creatures to see create species that will be human like science of cloning and modern molecular biology and genetics, the genome is the genetic material of an organism. It is encoded either in DNA or, for many types of viruses, in RNA. The genome includes both the genes and the non-coding sequences of the DNA/RNA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genome
Just like humans became intelligent through God's intervention, apes will be through human intervention.

 

Only you can chose to go where you want.

To go to Heaven mean you accept God but since you do not want to accept God then there is only two places purgatory or hell.
Now don't tell me that you did not say you did not reject God because surely God will welcome you in heaven because as you said you were a person when you were on earth so why won't you accept God's welcoming you into Heaven?

Two criminals one ask Jesus to save him and Jesus said 'Today you will be with me in paradise"
The other criminal in his dying breath ridicule and mock Jesus and Jesus said nothing because it is not Jesus choice it was the criminal choice not to accept God.

 

Yeah you already said that. So. When I die, I don't have to go to heaven, hell or purgatory, is that correct wan? Its a yes or no.

 

Two criminals one ask Jesus to save him and Jesus said 'Today you will be with me in paradise"
The other criminal in his dying breath ridicule and mock Jesus and Jesus said nothing because it is not Jesus choice it was the criminal choice not to accept God.

No, you go to either one of those places Heaven, Purgatory or Hell its your choice. Unless your conviction truly convince you none of those exist therefore in your state of mind while you are still alive you believe when you die you will just disappear no soul no spirit nothing into nothing this is probably what you are saying your fourth choice to go and be forgotten never exist at all is that it?

My father was an atheist all his life he ridicule my mother for being a Catholic and going to church on Sunday's they remain married for 60 years and 5 years before my father died he became a Catholic started going to church by himself got baptized caught as all by surprise then at age 85 he passed away quietly in his bed.

 

No according to you god only punishes evil. Me going to any of those places you cite is a punishment. Who is going to make me go to a place I don't want to go wan? You said before no one is going to force me to go anywhere. Are you flip flopping two posts in?

 

The problem being that is blatant ignorance. If I create a pit in my backyard full of venomous snakes, invite my friend over, then tell them "Choose A or B", and then throw them into the pit or not based on their decision, I still hold responsibility for creating such a pit and then throwing them into the pit. You're ignoring the second party here, the party that actually creates the rules and acts upon them.

 

So god can't take a joke? Who would want to worship a god who has no sense of humor?

But anyway... I'm not mocking god, I'm mocking your version of god.

 

Because humans are mapping the genomes of animals, that means scientists are trying to create more intelligent animals?



Oh boy, we got a good one here! Play the fear card!

 

That post by me was intended for The Wyrd of Gawd not you. But I guess you feel guilty yourself for mocking God in the past...eh?

 

Well, you did include my post with his.

LOL.. sure.. if you say so.

 

Correct God only punishes evil. God did not punish you yourself chose to punish yourself God welcome you in Heaven you refused it is your choice not God's. You will make yourself go to a place you don't want just like you don't want to go to Heaven. No flip flopping it is very clear I answer your question you will go to Heaven because you area good person as you claim to be but because you refuse to enter Heaven then you will go to Hell on your own free will.

as I said unless you chose to go to limbo or disappeared no soul no spirit and you refused to answer therefore which is it heaven, Purgatory, Hell or limbo?

 

The difference you created two pits full of snakes and you forcibly push them. In God's case there is Heaven and Hell and it is you who chose to go either one not push by God.

 

The guy who wrote James disagrees with you.

James 2:20 = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:20&version=NLT;RSVCE;CEV;MSG;NKJV

 

No fear card just fact and reality and that is where science and medicine is taking us. Why you don't believe that through human intervention apes can not become like humans?

 

First you can show evidence that that is what scientists are doing. Mapping a gnome doesn't mean we are trying to make chimps more intelligent.

 

According to the fairy tale there are three places non-living people can go to. They are the sea, death, and hell. The good news is that they are all temporary and everyone will get out on Judgment Day. And just because you spent time in hell it doesn't mean that you won't get into the giant gaudy bejeweled golden cube called New Jerusalem. So even though you spent eons in the sea, death, or hell you will move on to your final destination, New Jerusalem or the lake of fire.

Why fear hell? Even Jesus went to hell and he came out none the worse for wear. I'll bet the guy that he promised would end up in paradise with him was surprised to find himself in hell instead. He's still there. Maybe Jesus had a twisted sense of humor but he was dying when he made his final promise. Or maybe the writer just got the story wrong. Or maybe hell is really paradise?

 

How is God not forcibly pushing people into Heaven or Hell? The only difference between me pushing somebody into the pit and God pushing somebody into one of the above is that God doesn't have to use a physical push, only a metaphysical one. Unless you're saying that God doesn't control the rules for who gets to go into the pit.

 

Sorry but I don't get your response here, it's incoherent to me. It's kinda like if a person is talking about oranges you respond by talking about apples...lol

Of course there is proof of that, for starters I'm living proof myself that I view Jesus as being God in the flesh when He was living among the human race some 2,000 yrs. ago and furthermore there are billions of other fellow Christians who believe that too.

Well we know for sure Muhammad didn't resurrect from the dead since his followers made no claim of it and like I said his bones lie dormant in the ground somewhere.

But as for Jesus, we have first hand eye-witness accounts from a few of His disciples that He resurrected from the dead. They wrote their Gospels in the New Testament of the Holy Bible depicting the birth, life, ministry, death and resurrection of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ. We also have the prophecies that were foretold in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible of the first coming of Jesus.

So no...they are not in the same boat.

That's true for all except for Jesus since He resurrected from the dead and lives on as He has always lived for all eternity, He had no beginning, He has no ending, He is eternal.