Part 23 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

We Christians are all one with God, in God's eyes we are all His children.

 

The Spanish killed about 25 million Indians. But that's what happens to dummies who think that strangers are gods who show up to fulfill their silly religious prophecies. I can see the same thing happening to modern humans if space aliens show up claiming to be angels and Jesus. Modern humans would be just as gullible as ignorant ancient people were when Europeans showed up in their stinky ships.

 

The Bible does not tell us the earth was flat nor does it tell us there were no mountains before the flood.

We don't positively know for sure, in other words it's a theory, a speculation. How would we know for sure?...do you think those scientists who tell us that were around millions of years ago to know that?...lol

That's true as I already mentioned it but many a skeptic claims that the Bible depicts a flat earth but it is due to their misinterpretation of certain verses of Scripture...what else is new...eh?

Their error in interpretation can be easily explained so that the correct interpretation could be understood especially when introducing other Scriptures that depicts the curvature of the earth as a biblical concept and so there is no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth.

Yes I do but it's obvious you don't since you think all of Scripture is didactic literature. So let me explain what it means. The Bible has several books that contain moral instruction and are commonly known as didactic.

As compared to the books of Moses, that contain direct and mandatory commandments of God, the didactic books are written with the intent of encouraging people to live a godly life.

They teach a person to live his/her life in such a way that it will be blessed by God, filled with well-being and peace of mind. This category includes the books of Job, Psalms, Proverbs of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs.

The five books of Moses are not in the category of the books I have mentioned above, they are in essence historical written books as are the books of the New Testament.

For example, in the book of Genesis, the story of the Great Flood of Noah is to be taken literally, when God told us He flooded the entire earth, He means exactly that...He flooded the entire earth because He observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and He saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil and so He unleashed His wrath of punishment on the human race and just spared 8 people along with pairs of animals.

So the Great Flood was a real life historical event. This Great Flood in a sense was a prelude of what is to come in the end of times but instead of water to punish the wicked, God is going to use fire to punish the wicked.

You might ask, why doesn't He punish the wicked with a Great Flood again?...well it's because God promised us He will never flood the entire earth again to punish the wicked.

 

Exactly! Good post Hawkins! She is one of them who literally believes everything that scientists tell us, regardless that a lot of what they give us are just theories, speculation and guesswork. She thinks/believes they are not prone to errors when most of us logical/rational ones know that to be a false thought/belief.

 

Geology is a pretty good indicator...

Do you believe in a young earth or dinosaurs coexisting along side man and evolving into birds recently?

 

Oh stop it!...lol sorry but people say all sorts of things on the internet to boost themselves...lol but regardless though just because one is educated in the sciences that doesn't mean they absolutely know for sure things are millions of years old, again it's a theory, a speculation, nothing definite.

Do you also know why there are Saltwater mollusks in the Black Sea, and Foraminifera from the Gulf of Mexico?

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ the Son of God essentially told us the Great Flood was a true historical event when He said,

"When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat. People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes."---Matthew 24:37-39 NLT

 

Yes, of course I know about the Black Sea and the Gulf of Mexico. That has nothing to support a claim of a worldwide flood.

Why wouldn't Jesus reference Noah? The people knew the story... The story came out of Babylon and Dilmun.. It was a good way to illustrate the concept of salvation... I could reference stories from Aesop's fables or Uncle Remus to reference some teaching.. it doesn't mean that animals really talk..

 

We've noticed that about Christians who need to use someone else's ideas to explain things. You're talking absolute rubbish. The past isn't a theory, a speculation, nothing definite. We have a lot of evidence, even if you refuse to believe it.
And wasn't it a christian who said that the Flood covered every mountain, proveable by the ancient marine fossils and crustean remnants found there. Then that must be in doubt, a theory, a speculation. You can't have it both ways.

Margot2 has more understanding than you ever will have unless you open your eyes to the truth. Science isn't perfect, neither is the Bible, much of which is being proved in error every decade that passes.

I wasn't going to get involved but you're 'I'm right' attitude annoys me.

Reminds me of the Pharisees of Rabbi Jesus time.

 

The epic myths of creation, Noah, Exodus, Joshua are also didactic.. They never happened.. We have local floods all the time along with tsunamis and hurricanes, earthquakes.. and human being suffer terribly.. Do you think that is sent from God to punish the innocent and the guilty or do you think its simply WEATHER?

If you read Revelation, the End times came about 40 years after the crucifixion when the temple was destroyed and the laws of God took over from the laws of the Jews. It was the end of times and a new beginning.

 

That doesn't answer the question. How do you know Christianity is not a fairy tale like harry potter?

 

Which WanRen are you?

The "Barabbas was identified as a rapist in the Gospels" WanRen?

or the "Barabbas was NOT identified as a rapist in the Gospels" WanRen?

 

As we close in on the 72 page cut off of this thread, and no doubt Mitt staring "Part 24".....I again want to note that...

despite his CLAIM that he will answer "Tough Questions about Christianity".....MittRyan has YET to answer my very simple one-


Is there evidence in the Gospels that Barabbas was a "rapist"?


Or an even more important one....why does he support people who ADD things to the Bible that aren't in it?

 

I haven't seen Incorporeal posting lately.

 

The Aztecs wiped out entire tribes the Indians were tired of being the blood bank of the Aztecs. Aztec religion was based on the belief of the constant offering of human blood to continue functioning; to meet this need, the Aztec sacrificed thousands of people. This belief is thought to have been common throughout Nahuatl people. To acquire captives in times of peace, the Aztec resorted to a form of ritual warfare called flower war. The Tlaxcalteca, among other Nahuatl nations, were forced into such wars.

Ironic you have so much disrespect for the indigenous people of Mexico very stereotypical

Some modern humans already believe that angels and Jesus are space aliens they refer to themselves as Ancient Aliens or Pseudoscience other groups such as Scientology, Atheist, Agnostics, etc. all have their own perception in fact communist atheist are very bad they worship their supreme leader and they are known for their brutality, tyrannical rule and absolute disregard for human life more than 25 million have been murdered and killed by communist rule from 1940 to 1975.

 

Christianity is not a fairy tale because God has proved it himself with actual historical Biblical events no magic, no trickery, no sorcery, no story telling, no fiction, no myth only through actual interaction and believable facts and evidences that would form and shape the history of human civilization. Example: There are no gods in Mt. Olympus. The departing of the Red Sea has been proven to be scientifically possible. There exist no flying horses. Jesus Christ walk and travel like any other humans not riding on some imaginary horse with wings but he rode a donkey or walk just like all humans do. There exist no magic wand like in Harry Potter that can create balls of fire. Jesus Christ miracles such as curing the lepers, raising Lazarus, or feeding the multitude are now scientifically and medically possible no trickery but actual positive results unlike magic or sorcery.

 

The Barabbas that GC is defending.

 

Yes there is evidence that Barabbas was a rapist.
Matthew 27: 16 And at that time they had a notorious prisoner called Barabbas. 17 Therefore, when they had gathered together, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release to you? Barabbas, or Jesus who is called Christ?”
John 18:40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
Luke 23:19 Barabbas was in prison for taking part in an insurrection in Jerusalem against the government, and for murder.
Mark 15:7 A man called Barabbas was in prison with the insurrectionists who had committed murder in the uprising.

Through Biblical text we know that Barabbas was a notorious criminal and that discussion can easily point that he was not only a murderer but a rapist.
So far there has been no indication that Barabbas was not a rapist only personal defense from his supporters that he is not a rapist just a notorious criminal until such evidence can be presented Barabbas criminal records will include being a rapist it just so happened and unfortunate that rape wasn't really a crime back then.

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Same with Alpha.

 

There is NO evidence for the historical events in the Bible... So they are fiction.. and you might consider what they are trying to teach. Is the message more important to you or are the fairy tales important to you???

 

There is NOTHING in scripture about Barabbas being a rapist... He may have been considered a criminal because he was a zealot and rebelled against Roman occupation. Are your lies about the Bible about your ego or have you never actually read the Bible carefully and thoughtfully?

 

Nay,...

The spirit of Truth is born inside us all, and Christianity merely focuses our attention on using it more consciously.

We saw the rev Martin Luther King do this, and he changed the Laws in America.

 

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I already told you twice now, that as Exodus says, Aaron's sons are the same priests of today who we call Cohans.

Everything in the bible is true, even some things stated in prophetic ways.
Genetics shows that they allhad acommon father back in 1360BC.

 

Many of the reported things which seemed to be miracles back then are now understood as ideas we just did not then understand.

Jesus used mass hypnosis to change what was water to taste like the best of wines,... and he healed people with mesmerization in ways still practiced by Pentecostal churches now.

Feeding 5000 people with seven loafs of bread appeared miraculous but was really a process of others adding to the baskets food they had aplenty in that moment in time.
It was the start of the modern church means of collecting money to pay its bills and ministers, still used by them all.
It replaced the Jewish idea of charging each member for tithes and the seats in the synagogues that they still use now.

 

....UH.....how do we do genetic testing when we have no access to genetic material?

Are you referring to ancestry or something?

 

There is NO genetic evidence that Aaron's descendants today are related to Aaron.. That is tradition but we have no DNA from the fictional Aaron to compare to anyone.

Many prophesies did not .. have not come .. true although when John of Patmos wrote Revelation the Temple had already been destroyed and Nero was already dead..

The Temple was destroyed a generation (40 years) after the crucifixion.. and it didn't take a prophet to see that one coming .. civil war is very destructive.


The Bible stories are bigger than you realize if you stop looking at them as history and science or as if there was some chronology.. They are spiritual lessons and they are beyond all doubts political.. If you study first century history, you would know that much immediately.

 

What these geneticists did was test every jewish priest to see if they had a common relative, a father they all had in common centuries ago.
The tests said, yes.
They all had a father father about 3360 years ago, which would be the time Aaron was alive.
Exodus says all priest had to be sons of Aaron, and their sons, thereafter.