Part 25 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    God is Jesus, Jesus is God.
    How can you be a Christian if you do not worship God or Jesus?
    Do you believe and accept all of Christ teachings and claims, his suffering, his crucifixion and resurrection?
    Base on your claim would this give dairy's statement relevant more than ever?

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    Lest ye not forget.
    Satan is very clever and is a deceiver and deceives those who seek for truth outside the Bible.
     
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    You couldn't possibly understand even if it was explained to you very carefully.
     
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    There is no futuristic Revelation only the Holy Bible.
    What is the futuristic revelation?

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    Are you also a Christian?
     
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    Christianity has no problem with science that is why Christianity is in the forefront of science and has been instrumental in advancing modern science separating it from witchcraft, superstition and supernaturalism. Atheist most notably led by the communist have forced everyone to park their brain to think only for the party and the leader.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

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    Did you expect me to answer all the responses I've gotten? What am I a machine working 24/7?...lol When you made this post there were approx. 4,698 responses from the 8 threads, now we are on thread 25 and there are currently 18,311 responses.

    Surely you can't be serious that I should have caught up by now...because I'm always going to be behind. Currently I'm answering questions on Part 8, I just finished Part 7 and I'm still here responding to questions/comments that are coherent enough in my view to respond to them.

    And so there are thousands upon thousands of questions/comments I haven't gotten to yet. Maybe if guys like you stop coming to my thread for a year then obviously I will catch up eventually. And so if you don't like the program you know what you can do.... go take a hike...lol
     
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    So are you an apologist for dairy?
    If he is mimicking me then I am flatter too bad he just rejected his own claim that Satan is very clever and is a deceiver and deceives those who seek for truth outside the Bible. I don't really know who he is mimicking anymore?
    When it comes to Satan best ask dairy.
    Yes I do think Satan is a great deceiver. Don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Lest ye not forget.
    Satan is very clever and is a deceiver and deceives those who seek for truth outside the Bible.
     
  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Doctors and surgeons routinely perform more impressive feats than Jesus did.

    People were "sinful" before Jesus showed up, they were sinful when he was here, and they are sinful now. He didn't save anyone from sins. If he had saved people from sins then people wouldn't have to face Judgment Day to see if they had been good or bad.

    The Jesus story wasn't thought out very well before it became popular. It's full of holes. On top of that it doesn't apply to Gentiles.
     
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    Nope, one is not a Christian if they do not accept and worship Jesus Christ.
    They can be a Mormon, Islam, Nestorian, Arianism, Jehovah's Witness, Judaism etc.
     
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    If you would quit your dawdling and making snide comments when posts were addressed to others and weren't even questions pertaining to you, you would be caught up.
    You come here quite often and do not make 1 single response, yet hit the like 3 or 4 times.
    Do the job you set out to do with out all the other drama you like to instill.

    Oh and now, you are 13 months behind.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair View Post
    Lest ye not forget.
    Satan is very clever and is a deceiver and deceives those who seek for truth outside the Bible.


    Quote Originally Posted by WanRen View Post
    God is Jesus, Jesus is God.
    How can you be a Christian if you do not worship God or Jesus?
    Do you believe and accept all of Christ teachings and claims, his suffering, his crucifixion and resurrection?
    Base on your claim would this give dairy's statement relevant more than ever?
    I understand it very well the problem is you guys don't understand your self and the reason for that is because you guys contradict history, facts and truth that is why guys kept coming up with all sorts of contradictory claims and statements.

    You said you are a Christian and yet you do not believe and accept all of Christ teachings, his claims, his suffering, his crucifixion and resurrection? A very simple question that you can't answer?
     
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    What a tool. You're favorite poster in this thread makes up things continuously. And never 1 comment from you. But plenty of likes.
    Makes one think you agree with worldwide cannibalism of children, babies, and fetuses. Or one of great hypocrisy.

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    Well the alter ego Inc, doesn't think jesus is god. And he is your hero.
     
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    Way to dodge the answer. But you already gave the answer to Margot. I said nothing about accepting and worshipping Jesus.
    The question is, can one be a christian and believe jesus is not god. One can still worship jesus. Or in another's case, worship god thru jesus.

    Your answer is NO.

    Mormon, JW both worship jesus. The others aren't christian and not relevant to the question I asked.
     
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    Consider Wisdom 3:16-19 (CEB) = "16 The children of adulterers, however, will come to nothing. The seed of people who have sex with others in violation of the Law will dry up.17 Even if they live to old age, their lives won’t amount to anything. In their old age they will have no honor.18 If they die young, they will have no hope or comfort on Judgment Day.19 The family line of those who don’t do what is right will come to a bad end."
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Wisdom 3:16-19&version=CEB

    What happened to Jesus? Didn't he come to a bad end by being crucified? Did his family line continue? So, based on the cited passage my original comment has Biblical support.

    According to the Babylonian Talmud Bathsheba was six (6) yeas old when she had a son by David. So maybe Mary was six years old when she had Jesus.

    The way people keep hiking Mary's age she will soon be 90 years old like Sarah was when she had Isaac.
     
  14. Mitt Ryan

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    What do you mean now I admit the Bible has been misinterpreted? I've said it numerous of times before. Haven't I accused you of misinterpreting what you read on numerous occassions?..whether it be the Bible or what I have said...yes I have.

    Well yes, the unbelievers like to twist and distort what Jesus said in Scripture. Why are you surprised by that?

    You tell me everything you misinterpreted what Jesus said. We will start with you. Did you not state that Jesus didn't say He was God?...if you did that's one misinterpretation.

    We have many quotes from Jesus that if interpreted correctly, He was essentially saying He was God in the flesh.

    Did you expect me to give you a number for all the people who misinterpret Jesus? How would I know that answer? I'm not omniscient, only God is omniscient, He knows the answer.
     
  15. Mitt Ryan

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    WanRen and myself knew, your buddy Akhlut didn't know and neither did you know until you went to wiki...lol

    Lol. Nobody here is discussing Hinduism, what are you talking about? So you think Christianity is the same as Hinduism?...lol
     
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    It gets challenged by you non-believers because you don't like what the Scriptures says about what's going to happen to the fate of all you non-believers. So you have to try to discredit the Bible as much as you can to gain some kind of comfort level...but to no avail.

    The more you non-believers prod the more you find out that it's a futile effort.

    That's why it's pointless to bring up all those characters such as the unicorns, leprechauns, werewolves etc. Nobody really cares about them, nobody really challenges their existence/non-existence.
     
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    You are like God trying to defeat iron chariots.
     
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    Well it's not a Christian's personal opinion of what happens beyond the grave. It is our belief in God, our faith in God of what He has told us in the Scriptures of what happens beyond the grave.

    That's the difference, Steven Hawking is given us his personal opinion but we Christians are expressing of what our Lord has told us in the Scriptures.

    Now granted, you have the free will to accept or deny what's written in the Scriptures. If you deny it...so be it.
     
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    I'm speaking about our Lord Savior Jesus Christ and you bring up Abraham?

    So you like to make up your own beliefs about the Bible? Denying the existence of Abraham now?

    Where does it say in Scripture that Abraham really never existed and that his story was just a literary device?

    Things you say are typical of non-believers, non-Christians.
     
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    You really do hate it when people speak concise, clear, logical, with common sense, and intelligence.
    Why is that?
    Oh ya, jealousy.
    Now isn't that nugatory.
     
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    What the Egyptians? They had no clue that the universe had a beginning. The Jews knew though, it's because God told them.

    Imagine not too long ago our brilliant scientists discovered that the universe had a beginning, all the while it had been known for several thousands of years before.

    Science is only now catching up to what had been known many many many moons ago...lol
     
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    Exactly! Good post cupid! :salute: I wonder if the gawd fella purposely avoided verse 20...eh?

    There are essential differences and contradictions between the Islamic and Christian faiths and so they cannot both be true. The Bible and Qur’an cannot both be God’s Word. The truth has eternal consequences.

    I'd say because Jesus resurrected from the dead, and Muhammad's bones still lie dormant in the ground somewhere the Bible is God's Word and not the Qur'an.
     
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    The Jews have always known that the stories were borrowed from the Ugarit and Sumer.. Even psalms is from the Ugarit.. They are powerful tales that should teach you something, but they aren't history or science. There was NO Moses or Abraham or Noah.
     
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    But there must be something highly motivating for a huge group of people flocking by the billions to come to have faith in a particular religion.
    Let's look at the definition of 'motivation': Some inner drive, impulse, intention, etc. that causes a person to do something or act in a certain way; incentive; goal.

    The Bible has a great deal to say about motivation. The motivation of Christians is supposed to be exactly the opposite of what motivates unbelievers. For one thing, our sense of motivation or inspiration comes from God, not from the things of the world.

    The world is motivated by self the all-about-me syndrome, which is identified by self-determination, self-obsession and self-worship. The Bible does not teach us to be centered on ourselves. In fact, it teaches just the opposite.

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said: "The greatest among you must be a servant. But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted."---Matthew 23:11-12 NLT

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ set the example for our motivation in this life. Jesus was concerned with pleasing His Father, and so should we.

    We read in Scripture: "Then Jesus explained: "My nourishment comes from doing the will of God, who sent me, and from finishing his work."---John 4:34 NLT

    We Christians patiently await the day we will be in the presence and glory of our Lord. In the meantime we will humble ourselves and live a life of obedience as best as we can to please our Lord.

    All I'm going to say here is that the Christian religion is the only true religion, it is the only religion that people should put their faith in and so I just feel sorry for all people who are non-Christians because of the fate that awaits them.

    God has revealed Himself to the world through the birth, the life, the teachings of His ministry, the miracles He performed and the death and resurrection of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ. If anyone rejects Christ that is their free-will decision and so be it.

    What more can I or any other follower of Christ for that matter say to people who choose to be unbelievers?
     
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    Exactly! Good point cupid! :salute:
     
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