Part 36 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Maxwell

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    Einstein was a pretty smart scientist and he said that there is a spirit and Intelligence to the universe that dwarfs anything of man's. I keep referring back to Einstein because he disproves every point you try to establish.
     
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    And what evidence did he have for that supposed intelligence?

    Are you operating under the delusion that Einstein was right about everything he said? Modern quantum physics is disproving more and more of his beliefs.

    I don't know if you know this, but science, unlike Christianity, is not based on unevidenced claims by authority figures.
     
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    A singularity is "something", not "nothing". Ryan continues to ignore this.
     
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    Now Einstein is a dummy. LOL.
     
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    Exactly my point. It takes faith to believe anything. Some believe that this microscope can see atoms. Some believe whatever a scientist tells them. Some believe whatever a politician of their political persuasion tells theml. Some believe man is causing global warming, even though recent evidence shows nothing happening currently. I'm not discounting the existance of atoms, neutrons, protons, etc. Just pointing out how it takes faith to believe anything.
     
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    Where did I say that? Do you think Einstein was some kind of scientific Jesus who was perfect in all of his pronouncements and never got anything wrong?
     
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    You are the dummy. Einstein was a great man, but men of science are only great in their time. Things move on and science goes beyond previous barriers and discoveries. We honour men for their discoveries, but those discoveries often lead on to further discoveries. Rather like the Bible. What we know now that they didn't know 2000 years ago has changed the way of looking at the Bible.
     
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    Climate change is verified by every major scientific body on the planet.

    And no, believing in atoms does not require faith. We have extensive evidence for atoms.
     
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    He was a genius, probably the greatest scientific mind ever. The fact you need to discredit him simply because he believed in an intelligence and spirit running the universe shows you're not objective, but biased.
     
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    This Microscope CAN see atoms. Your ignorance is abysmal. It actually shows you one in the article.
     
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    He may have been a genius but he got plenty of things wrong. That is objectively true. Quantum physics research has overturned many of his positions.

    Why should I (or anyone else) consider anything he said about a supposed "intelligence" guiding the universe when he presented no verifiable, testable evidence for it?
     
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    There are climate scientists that do not believe man is causing climate change. That claim is false. If you've never seen something and you believe what someone tells you, that takes as much faith as it does to believe in God.

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    Okay. Tell us what findings of Einstein have been proven wrong.
     
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    One theory of Einstein was tweaked, so that makes him stupid. Ignore everything else he accomplished. Truly astounding how far some will reach to undermine anyone that believes in a Creator.
     
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    Why do you keep lying? Provide a link to a post where any of us have called Einstein "stupid" or said that everything else he accomplished should be ignored?

    What does your holy book say about bearing false witness again? Are you going to enjoy your time in hell?
     
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    Personal attacks.
     
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    Got a link to one of those posts where I or anyone else said Einstein was stupid or that his other accomplishments should be ignored?
     
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    You're undermining his accomplishments because he believed in a spirit intelligence that guides the universe. He was a grest mind and intellect. Many great minds believe in God. You're just going to have to acknowledge that truth.
     
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    Remember, all matter is composed of assorted atoms. As living entities we are composed of "dead" atoms. We exist by consuming other dead atoms.
     
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    Believing in something without evidence is not an "accomplishment", nor does do his actual accomplishments in science have any bearing on a belief he had without evidence being true or even worthy of discussion.

    Great minds also believe in Allah. Does that make Islam true or worthy of considering true without evidence?

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    Which is a matter of scale. Atoms are not alive. Organic molecules made up of millions of atoms of which billions of molecules make up living beings are.
     
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    No, great minds do not believe in Allah. Take a look at the Nobel Prize list.
    http://www.siotw.org/news_english.i...of-muslim-and-jewish-nobel-price-winners.html
     
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    There are thousands of Muslim scientists in the world. Or are you claiming only Nobel Prize winners qualify as "great minds"?

    BTW: Muslim Nobel prize winners:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_Nobel_laureates

    Are you prepared to admit defeat yet?
     
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    Yes, Nobel Prize winners are the cream. Tops. Pinnacle. I made my point.

    The fact you use Wikipedia reveals your pedestrian superficial intellect. Wikipedia is not a secure site and can be edited by anyone. Most credible college professors will not accept Wikipedia as a source on any research paper.
     
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    So then you agree that there are great minds who believe in Islam as there are Muslim Nobel prize winning scientists?

    Does that make their beliefs about Allah correct or worthy of considering correct without evidence?
     
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    The fact remains that everything is made up of dead items. At some point they create a life force and at some point the life force is terminated. How that happens is a mystery.
     
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