Part 36 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Non-Denominational just means Protestants without an overarching hierarchy.

I can promise you the Maronites, Nestorians, and other Eastern churches don't agree with you on the basic tenets of Christianity, yet they also claim to be getting revelations from the Holy Spirit.

If the Holy Spirit was a reliable source of information, rather than every Christians imaginary friend, there wouldn't even be different kinds of Christians.

 

As I said, there are many false churches. You're confusion is part of the devil's devices.

 

Ah, yep that old stand by. If the "Holy Spirit" is telling people something different than it's telling you, you must be right and they are being deceived by the Devil.

Why can't you both be wrong and maybe both of you stop listening to voices in your head?

 

The voice in my heart is the Holy Spirit and He agrees with the Word of God in the Bible. I know the voice speaking through you is the devil.

 

No voice is in my head. This devil you talk of doesn't exist. And your voice in your head is telling you to stick your head in the sand and be ignorant and to fall for conmen a la the Parting of the Red Sea thread.

Why do you consider that voice a good source of information?

 

You can't accept that the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw and heard Jesus were lying because the alleged thousands of eyewitnesses who saw and heard Jesus didn't write anything. There is nothing to accept.

Do you accept that the thousands of eyewitnesses who saw and heard Dropship streaking through Trafalgar Square were lying?

 

The Holy Spirit is God speaking to me. He always agrees with the Word of God. The devil is the voice of deception trying to confuse and cause doubt of God's word.

 

So did "God" tell you it was a good idea to use Ron Wyatt (a known conman) as your source for the Parting of the Red Sea thread?

 

You say he's a con man. You're just one little insignificant squeak on a forum.

 

You may have come up against this. 2 Holy Spirit filled men being' told' different things over a church matter. In one case splitting a church.

 

I'm not the only one. If the "Holy Spirit" is telling you Wyatt is a reliable source of information, then you are getting bad information.

 

Says you. Why should I listen to you? You're not a believer. You don't believe in the One True God, the Creator. Give me a reason to take what you say seriously.

 

You shouldn't listen to what I'm saying. The only things you should listen to are logic and evidence. Stick with those and you won't go wrong.

Logic and evidence show Ron Wyatt is a conman. If the "Holy Spirit" is telling you he's a good source of information, then why would you trust the "Holy Spirit"?

How do you know you aren't the one being deceived by the Devil?

 

Says you. Why should I listen to you? You're not a believer. You don't believe in the One True God, the Creator. Give me a reason to take

I know I'm not being deceived because the Word of God tells me the Red Sea parted and swallowed Egyptian chariots.

 

But he tries to make it sound like he was there for all of it,
Luke 1:1-4King James Version (KJV)
1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,

2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;

3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,

4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
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Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word; It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, that thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

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us --- which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, --- me --- had perfect understanding of all things from the very first,

Clearly the author of Luke was trying to make the case that he was there and was an eyewitness from the beginning.

 

1. Logic and evidence lead to reliable results every time. Does your "Holy Spirit" have that degree of reliability?

2. And then Ron Wyatt claims without any evidence that he supposed found chariot wheels in a place that would be inconvenient at best to part the Red Sea and that he'll show you more, all you have to do is give him X payments of $29.95 and your "Holy Spirit" is telling you to believe this guy?

 

So, YOU are the one who gets to define who is and who is not a "true christian"! That's convenient.

Maybe you and Maxwell should get together and see if your definitions of "true Christian" agree.

 

Answer this question:

We know FOR A FACT that the Red Sea bottom is contoured to the point where if it was dry, you'd need modern climbing gear to traverse it.

How did the Pharoah get chariots across what would be mountains and canyons? How did the Israelites cross them for that matter?

Face facts: the writers of the Bible didn't know anything about undersea topography and the story they wrote has no basis in reality.

 

The Bible tells us who is a true believer and who isn't.

 

We know for a fact there is a path the Jews took through dry gtound when the sea parted. There are deep parts and shallow parts. Fact.
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-goshen-red-sea.htm

 

No, the Bible claims that and offers no evidence to support its claim.

Real world evidence from radar and sonar topography scans of the Red Sea floor show a Warden of undersea canyons and mountain ranges that the authors of Exodus knew nothing about.

They wrote a story based on their false understanding that the bottom of the Sea is flat. It's no different from any other ancient myth. It's based on ignorance.

 

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-goshen-red-sea.htm

 

Historians get things wrong, even today, so if you take them literally you're on shaky ground.
For example well-known Brit broadcaster/author and military historian author Max Hastings said in a newspaper article- "The British soldier in WW2 was consistently outperformed by the German soldier"
Is he nuts? Jerry lost the friggin war, or hadn't he noticed?
Many of his other writings are also so anti-British, that I call him 'Red Max'..
The moral?- Historians often have their own agenda and are therefore not always trustworthy.

 

And now you change the goalposts of the "Reed Sea" model.

Are you admitting Robb Wyatt was lying when he claimed to find chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba?

 

But why would anybody want to invent Christianity and get serious hassle from the snooty priests and Romans? What was their motive?