Part 39 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. ToddWB

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    And that is exactly how the Bible says we should argue, with the inerrant Word of God as presented in the Bible. Thank you Lord for your servant Mitt and for his use of Your Word in his responses. May God continue to Bless you Brother Mitt.
     
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    Thanks for your kind, thoughtful words Brother Todd, much appreciative! And may God continue to Bless you Brother Todd....I salute you!

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    I have never said that. What I have always consistently said was that the Scriptures of the Holy Bible are the inerrant, infallible, Word of God.

    We Read in Scripture:

    16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17 God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NLT

    20 Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet’s own understanding, 21 or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God. 2 Peter 1:20-21 NLT

    That's right, always has been my belief.

    If you do that you'll only make things worst than it already is for yourself. If you have trouble understanding Scripture then you could go to any one of those reputable Christian Ministry sites on-line and ask for help, or you could ask a Christian preacher if you know one and of course you could always ask Brother Mitt for some help. You know I would be more than happy to help you or anyone else out.

    Ok dairy thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Yes Lord Jesus says what He says but evidently you're misinterpreting what He is saying, thus your interpretation is impaired, a common theme/characteristic of yours. Let's not forget, your perspective of Scripture is of the view point of a non-Christian, a non-believer of the Lord Savior Jesus Christ. So how can Christians accept the view of a non-Christian who says things that are unbiblical, in other words who says things that are misinterpreting Scripture.

    It is you that is guilty of nonsense. A lot of things you say is composed of lies & deceptions. You must have received your cue card from the father of all lies & deception...the devil himself.

    Ok thanks Gift for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it, I will continue on later to respond to your other comments. So please standby.
     
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    What are these made up accusations from the place of the hopelessly lost Brother Mitt .. trying to demonize others as "non-Christian" .. when it is you who runs from the teachings of Christ - and teaches others to do the same - supplanting the words of Christ with man made dogma .. then unwilling to defend position .. running from the most basic questions .. never mind the tough ones..

    You claim to be an interpreter of scripture .. but have yet to manage to tell us the name of your God .. which God from Scripture do you worship.. Is it Ba-al - Chemosh - Yahu - Shamash - Zedek - Nabo - Tiamat - Ellil - Ea - Innana ?

    Help us understand your God Brother Mitt .. and others may Choose to worship .. seeing your light shine .. as of now you are the path of darkness .. hiding from the light .. :hiding::hiding: -- asleep at the wheel :sleeping::sleeping: lost in a circular cave of darkness :wall:

    What is this fear Brother Mitt ? - are you embarassed about your God .. that you can not tell us which one you worship - but you claim is Most High .. .. and why are you afraid to show us this God ?
     
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    So you're responding to posts from 2014. Wow. It's 2022.

    Have you educated yourself since then? Or are you still posting stuff that was deemed made up back then?
     
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  7. Mitt Ryan

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    So what? Are you saying all your posts are irrelevant now? But yeah I'm responding to them. I guess if I spent hours here like you here at the PF and made 67,388 posts so far I would have caught up by now...lol But as one can see I'm only at a measly 4,430 posts generated.

    Have you educated yourself? Have you improved your reading comprehension skills? How am I making stuff up when I quote from Scripture? Everything I say is based from the Scriptures of the Holy Bible which is the Word of God.

    Ok dairy thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it. And when your posts comes up you can bet your dollar boots I will respond to them if they are coherent enough for me to respond to them.
     
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    Interpreting the words of the Lord Savior Jesus Christ correctly and explaining the message behind His words is not making up a story, it's when you misinterpret His words, it leads to making up a story, presenting a false narrative.

    No part because I understand it fully, do you? But anyway let me bring up that passage regarding "Teaching about the Law" in Matthew 5:17-20.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Teaching about the Law

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,
    17 “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. 19 So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

    20 “But I warn you—unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven! Matthew 5:17-20 NLT

    The Lord is making two distinct points here. Verse 20 is demonstrating that the righteousness of the teachers of religious law (scribes) and Pharisees is false. In an earlier passage in Matthew 3:7-10, John the Baptist called them out as a "brood of snakes".

    We Read in Scripture:

    7 But when he saw many Pharisees and Sadducees coming to watch him baptize,[a] he denounced them. “You brood of snakes!” he exclaimed. “Who warned you to flee the coming wrath? 8 Prove by the way you live that you have repented of your sins and turned to God. 9 Don’t just say to each other, ‘We’re safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.’ That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones. 10 Even now the ax of God’s judgment is poised, ready to sever the roots of the trees. Yes, every tree that does not produce good fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire. Matthew 3:7-10 NLT

    The Lord too, will clash with the Pharisees in the passages that we read later on in Matthew over the way they work so hard on outward appearances while sin decays their hearts. So we learn from reading Scripture that the scribes and Pharisees were really not what people perceived them to be. Through the Lord's and John the Baptist's judgements, they were unrighteous hypocrites.

    The Lord Jesus will emphasize in the rest of this sermon, God cares far more about what is in a person's heart than how other people perceive them. God values true purity motivated by true love more than technical rule-keeping motivated by spiritual pride. So true "righteousness" is something better than the fake version paraded by religious hypocrites.

    The other point the Lord made, which upcoming teaching will support, is that nobody can be truly, perfectly righteous. No person can live a life of moral purity worthy of heaven. In other words no one can live a sinless life. When we use the word "sinless" it can only be applied to the Christian God, the Father, Son (Jesus Christ), Holy Spirit.

    God through the apostle Paul tells us we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Yet God in His grace freely makes us right in His sight, He did this through the Lord Jesus when He reed us from the penalty for our sins.

    We Read in Scripture:

    23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. 25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus. Romans 3:23-26 NLT

    The Lord wants us to understand that we need a righteousness only He can earn for us. Heaven's standard of righteousness is beyond human ability. His purpose is not to discard the law of Moses, but to accomplish the purpose for which the law was given. In which He did when He fulfilled the demand of the law for perfect obedience by His sinless life.

    A cornerstone of the Lord's teaching is that mankind cannot earn salvation on their own, since we cannot hope to be good enough. But He tells us that in order to earn the Kingdom of Heaven a person must be even more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees. I believe we can be more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees, I mean after all those scribes and Pharisees were a "brood of snakes" and "unrighteous hypocrites".

    Well ok Gift, thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    It is Brother Mitt's way of avoiding the tough questions .. when he gets stumped he starts walking the halls talking to ghosts (folks who are no longer here) from 2014. Just a simple question such as what the name of his God is will elicit this response.

    Certain Religious leaders - most often found in destructive cults - will use sophisticated mind control techniques. One of these is to teach the adherent to avoid 'Bad thoughts" - anything or anyone that conflicts with cult doctrine. These are called "Thought Stopping techniques".

    Demonization of the Other is a common response - you see that this all the time. The cult leader creates a "black vs white" - "Good vs Evil" - "God vs Devil" paradigm .. Cult doctrine is good .. anything or anyone that conflicts or contradicts is Evil .. Cult members are encouraged to ostracize such people .. as they might lead them to the dark place.

    The fear factor is ramped up --- adherents are taught that if one "questions" or "disbelieves" certain tenets of some holy book .. the worst thing the mind can imagine will happen to them .. eternal torture in the afterlife .. forever .. and ever.

    This fear resides deep in the subconscious - the adherent mostly unaware. When adherent comes across a "Bad thought" the fear of eternal torture triggers a thought avoidance response .. as thinking about the bad thought might lead to the bad place..
     
  10. Mitt Ryan

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    I'm surprised, finally you're saying something I can agree with. Yes, nobody can go through their entire lives and be sinless...just not possible... only the Lord Jesus was able to do that. But we still got to do our very best to turn away from our sinful ways of the past and have unquestioning faith/trust/love for the Lord, admit to Him we are sinners, confess our sins, ask Him to forgive us of our sins and just be decent human beings treating others the way we would want them to treat us. Just live our lives as righteous as we can be, the way the Lord wants us to live.

    Well first let me bring up those verses where the Lord states this. I don't think you are quite aware of its implications.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,
    28 “I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, 29 but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences.” Mark 3:28-29 NLT

    The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, specific as it was to the Pharisees' situation, cannot be duplicated today. Lord Jesus Christ is not on earth, and no one can personally see Him perform a miracle and then attribute that power to satan instead of the Holy Spirit, that is what the Pharisees were guilty of, sinning against the Holy Spirit when they attributed the miracle the Lord performed to satan instead of the Holy Spirit.

    We Read in Scripture:

    24 But when the Pharisees heard about the miracle, they said, “No wonder he can cast out demons. He gets his power from Satan,[a] the prince of demons.” Matthew 12:24 NLT

    And so the only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in his/her rejection of the Lord Savior Jesus Christ. As I've told you so many times before, this is the only unpardonable sin, all other sins can be forgiven. But there is no forgiveness for someone who dies without faith in the Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

    We Read in Scripture:

    6 And it is impossible to please God without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him. Hebrews 11:6 NLT

    31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household.” Acts 16:31 NLT

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    8 And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. John 16:8 NLT

    6 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." John 14:6 NLT

    28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them away from me, John 10:28 NLT

    45 For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others and to give His life as a ransom for many." Mark 10:45 NLT

    16 For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NLT

    25 Jesus told her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me will live, even after dying. 26 Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never ever die. Do you believe this, Martha?” John 11:25-26 NLT

    Well ok Gift thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Was not specific to the Pharisee's situation - Why are you making things up in an attempt to deceive.

    You then claim that the unforgivable sin can not be made today.... which is a preposterous falsehood .. based on made up nonsense which comes from .. which even if your interpretation was partially correct -- your conclusion is not logical and does not follow from. as someone today can disbelieve the miracles of Jesus just as the Pharisees did.

    What is "the Holy Spirit" -- what did that term mean to the people ? -- you have no idea what the words you are using mean - never mind in context with the passage.

    What is the sin which can not be forgiven .. blasphemy against the "Holy Spirit" . .. and how could you possibly know what this is .. if you don't know what the Holy Spirit meant .. to the early Christian living in the 1st century.

    Looks like you got some homework or perhaps revisit the home-work already done for you .. as I told you what the unforgivable sin was .. many times .. but the blind can not see.. though right in front of face . and right from your own mouth .. yet you still do not see. Such is the blinding power of the dark side.

    Listen to Your Words ..

    "They Atributed it to Satan" Yes Brother Mitt - Substituting Satan For God - as was the case in the time of Macabbees .. when the "Awfull Horror/" was set up in the Holy Temple .. what was referred to as the abomination of desolation. The Greek King Antiochus put an alter to Zeus on which he sacrificed a Pig in the the house of YHWH .. where YHWH's Name Resides. The King then claimed that his word... was God's word .. proclaiming "Pontifex Maximus" on himself .. substituting the "The Word" of Satan for "The Word" of God.

    What is "The Holy Spirit" Brother Mitt .. and why do you wish to substitute "The Word" of Satan for "The Word" of God ?
     
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    Nope...you are wrong as usual. God's apostle Paul is not contradicted at all, it's just you again misinterpreting Scripture. These people I'm referring to are the ones who haven't received God's written laws, haven't received the Good News of the Gospels, in other words they have never heard of the Lord Savior Jesus Christ and what He represents. Below is the bulk of my quote you left out:

    The passage below tells us what God will do as it pertains to the people not having God's written law which includes not receiving the Good News of the Gospels, God's salvation plan. God will justly and fairly judge them, so some will be saved, others not saved, depending on God's judgment of them.

    We Read in Scripture:

    12 When the Gentiles sin, they will be destroyed, even though they never had God’s written law. And the Jews, who do have God’s law, will be judged by that law when they fail to obey it. 13 For merely listening to the law doesn’t make us right with God. It is obeying the law that makes us right in his sight. 14 Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. 15 They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. 16 And this is the message I proclaim—that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life. Romans 2:12-16 NLT

    Ok Gift, thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    why are you responding to a post from 2014 instead of the most recent conversation ?
    Are you lost Brother Mitt ?
     
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    Is this how the Bible says we should argue Brother Todd - Respond to "Tough Questions" by avoiding them - warping into la la land - and talking to Ghosts from 2014 instead of responding ?
     
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    My God this is Pathetic Brother Todd -- do not follow in the ways of darkness so easily.
    Look Brother Todd -- who is the one in a web of deceit -- the one responding to recent post by posting from 2014 in an effort to avoid and deflect from the Truth .. who is receiving "cue card from the father of all lies and deception .. the Devil himself" ?

    Tell us Brother Todd .. and do not follow the ways of "the devil himself" .. por favor ... who is the one adrift in a lie .. the one desperate to deflect and deceive .. then running and hiding .. refusing to respond and account for himself.

    This one is lost Brother Todd .. but you need not follow down the dark path of deception .. see what is before your eyes .. could it be "the father of all lies" -- speaking through his adherents .. in a wild web of self deception.
     
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    Have you cited one Bible verse to back up your arguement here Oh GIFTED ONE?
     
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    I cite bible verses regularly -- from which you and Brother Mitt run away - what argument are you referring to ? The last one you ran from was the question of King Solomon engaging in Child Sacrifice and the purpose of the Prostitutes in the Temple of YHWH.

    now if that one was too sordid for your eyes .. the simple question of the identity of the God you worship - You and Mitt both have ran from the scripture I presented -- You just not responding .. Mitt regressing to 2014 and talking to ghosts .. in some very strange denial/avoidance response.

    Which argument would you like some scripture Brother Todd -- do not be afraid and run away .. ask what you like ... and I will answer without deceit .. and perhaps without delay :)
     
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    Let's get this straight. The killings that God ordered the Israelites to carry out were justifiable during the Old Testament days. The people that were being killed were being punished for their sins & disobedience. Those days are long gone. God doesn't order anyone anymore to carry out these types of punishments. And I'm talking about the only one true Christian God, who is the only God in existence for there is no other.

    But anyway since you brought up the subject, let me bring up a couple of nations that He had the Israelites destroy because of their depravity that went on for such a very long long time as the Scriptures tells us (400 years) until the time was ripe for God's judgment on them. So He was being very patient with them, I mean...400 years! Wow!...such patience!

    He gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways, over 400 years. They were aware of God's power and could have repented but they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.

    The Canaan people were evil people and because of their sins & disobedience our righteous God of the Old Testament allowed the killings (punishments) of the Canaanites and the Amorites. God had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations. The Canaanite culture revealed its inherent moral wickedness, they were a brutal, aggressive people who engaged in incest, bestiality, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm for these depraved people.

    The Canaanites' sins were so repellent!, so gross!, so disgusting!, that God said because the entire land has become defiled, He was punishing the people who lived there and will cause the land to vomit them out.

    We Read in Scripture:

    25 Because the entire land has become defiled, I am punishing the people who live there. I will cause the land to vomit them out. 26 You must obey all my decrees and regulations. You must not commit any of these detestable sins. This applies both to native-born Israelites and to the foreigners living among you.

    27 “All these detestable activities are practiced by the people of the land where I am taking you, and this is how the land has become defiled. 28 So do not defile the land and give it a reason to vomit you out, as it will vomit out the people who live there now. 29 Whoever commits any of these detestable sins will be cut off from the community of Israel. 30 So obey my instructions, and do not defile yourselves by committing any of these detestable practices that were committed by the people who lived in the land before you. I am the Lord your God.” Leviticus 18:25-30 NLT

    The destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion that at the Canaanite people. The judgment was not ethnically motivated. Besides dealing with national sins, God used the conquest of Canaan to create a religious historical context in which He could eventually introduce the Messiah to the world. This Messiah would bring salvation not only to Israel, but also to Israel's enemies, including Canaan.

    We Read in Scripture:

    4 I will count Egypt[a] and Babylon among those who know me—
    also Philistia and Tyre, and even distant Ethiopia.
    They have all become citizens of Jerusalem!
    5 Regarding Jerusalem[c] it will be said,
    “Everyone enjoys the rights of citizenship there.”
    And the Most High will personally bless this city.
    6 When the Lord registers the nations, he will say,
    “They have all become citizens of Jerusalem.” Psalm 87:4-6 NLT

    The Faith of a Gentile Woman

    24 Then Jesus left Galilee and went north to the region of Tyre.[a] He didn’t want anyone to know which house he was staying in, but he couldn’t keep it a secret.
    25 Right away a woman who had heard about him came and fell at his feet. Her little girl was possessed by an evil[a] spirit, 26 and she begged him to cast out the demon from her daughter.
    Since she was a Gentile, born in Syrian Phoenicia, 27 Jesus told her, “First I should feed the children—my own family, the Jews. It isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.”
    28 She replied, “That’s true, Lord, but even the dogs under the table are allowed to eat the scraps from the children’s plates.”
    29 “Good answer!” he said. “Now go home, for the demon has left your daughter.” 30 And when she arrived home, she found her little girl lying quietly in bed, and the demon was gone. Mark 7:24-30 NLT

    Like I mentioned above, God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways, over 400 years. They were aware of God's power and could have repented but they continued their rebellion against God until the bitter end.

    We Read in Scripture:

    13 Then the Lord said to Abram, “You can be sure that your descendants will be strangers in a foreign land, where they will be oppressed as slaves for 400 years. 14 But I will punish the nation that enslaves them, and in the end they will come away with great wealth. 15 (As for you, you will die in peace and be buried at a ripe old age.) 16 After four generations your descendants will return here to this land, for the sins of the Amorites do not yet warrant their destruction.”

    17 After the sun went down and darkness fell, Abram saw a smoking firepot and a flaming torch pass between the halves of the carcasses. 18 So the Lord made a covenant with Abram that day and said, “I have given this land to your descendants, all the way from the border of Egypt[a] to the great Euphrates River— 19 the land now occupied by the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, 20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, 21 Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites, and Jebusites.” Genesis 15:13-16 NLT

    Any person in today's world who hears voices in their heads thinking it's God telling them to kill someone needs to be put into a mental hospital. So dairy if you know someone such as this be careful with them and call the authorities as soon as possible. They need psychiatric help pronto!

    Ok dairy thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    That's what unbelievers say Above, but Christians say, "Oh yeah! Paradise here I come to be with the Lord and others who are saved!"

    Thanks Above for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    First off the OP didn't say he just wanted a yes or no for a response to his question. Secondly for that type of a question a simple yes or no response really would not be an adequate enough response.

    If I give a short response, you complain it's not adequate, if I give a thorough response you call it a bunch of made up bs opinion of mine...lol

    You think?...you mean you don't know for sure? After everything I said, you think my answer is yes?...lol

    Of course my answer is yes, when it involves God, only He has the right to take life when He so pleases. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death.

    Ok dairy thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Responding to Ghosts from 2014 in order to hide from scripture .. hide from the light .. The Truth . The Way

    Look Brother Todd -- who is the one in a web of deceit -- the one responding to recent post by posting from 2014 in an effort to avoid and deflect from the Truth .. who talks about receiving "cue card from the father of all lies and deception .. the Devil himself" ?

    Tell us Brother Todd .. and do not follow the ways of "the devil himself" .. por favor ... who is the one adrift in a lie .. the one desperate to deflect and deceive .. running and hiding from scripture .. refusing to respond and account for himself.

    Who is the one bewitched by the "father of all lies" -- . in a wild web of self deception Brother Todd.

    Tell us the name of the God these "unbelievers" reject Brother Mitt .. The one True God .. Most High God .. and do cite some scripture to back up your argument as Brother Todd requests.
     
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    The passage you are referring to does not mention Jews who were not Judeo Christians rejecting Jesus...so obviously you're again misinterpreting Scripture, or just making stuff up.

    So as usual you're wrong. Anyone who rejects the Lord Savior Jesus Christ will not be saved. So Jews who are not Christians will not be saved. And besides how could the law save them when they're already sinners? The only way you could be saved through the law is to not break the law and be sinless then you will be saved, but how is that even possible when none of us are able to live a complete sinless life? Only the Lord Savior Jesus Christ was able to do that, that is why He is Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ, we are saved through Him.

    But anyway Scripture tells us that the Jews are God's chosen people.

    We Read in Scripture:

    6 For you are a holy people, who belong to the Lord your God. Of all the people on earth, the Lord your God has chosen you to be his own special treasure. Deuteronomy 7:6 NLT

    But that doesn't automatically make all Jews saved, only the ones who profess being Christians will be saved.

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ was very clear in His message. He told us He was the way, the truth, and the life and no one can come to the Father except through Him.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,


    6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. John 14:6 NLT

    Please refer to John 14:6 that I presented above, after reading it, it will tell you who is the one without a clue.

    Bottom line is that people are saved by having faith in the Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

    Ok Gift thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Come now Brother Todd -- tell us who is following the dark path - the deceiver, the trickster .. the one who runs from scripture. ?

    The bottom line Brother Mitt is that you are not able to tell us who the God you worship really is - "backed up with Scripture" for Brother Todd

    Instead you have been talking to ghosts from 2014 --- talking about "cue cards from the father of all lies and deception .. the Devil himself" ? and now you go supplanting the teachings of Jesus with the man made dogma of wolves .. leading Brother Todd down the dark path .. All Hallow's eve must be close .. looks like the sprites are out in full force this year.

    Who is this God you worship Brother Mitt .. ? :buggered::knifefork::rip:

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    That's right that the "Good news" is that the Lord preached forgiveness. And yes from time to time people will still sin but we still got to do our very best to turn away from our sinful ways of the past and have unquestioning faith/trust/love for the Lord, admit to Him you are a sinner, confess your sins to Him, ask Him to forgive you for the sins you have committed and just be a decent human being treating others the way you would want them to treat you. Just live your life as righteous as you can be, the way the Lord wants you to live.

    We Read in Scripture:

    9 But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness. 1 John 1:9 NLT

    5 Finally, I confessed all my sins to you

    and stopped trying to hide my guilt.

    I said to myself, “I will confess my rebellion to the Lord.”

    And you forgave me! All my guilt is gone. Psalm 32:5 NLT

    Ok Gift thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it.
     
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    Come out of the corner Brother Todd .... why are you encouraging Brother Mitt .. in this game of thought avoidance - the Ghosts of 2014 -- taking "cue card from the father of all lies and deception .. the Devil himself" ?

    Why do you run and hide from scripture .. refusing to respond and account for yourself Brother Todd .. :hiding::hiding::hiding:

    Not much light can shine from under that chair .. come out from hiding and tell us the name of your God.. . why is it that you two are so ashamed of your belief in this God ?
     
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