Part 9 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

You mean to tell us you have a record of an event happening around 3,400 yrs. ago showing that Egypt didn't suffer a depression?

Where is this record, is it recorded on a hieroglyph?...lol

 

if I invent a godhead, you won't be able to destroy its credibility. isn't that remarkable!

 

Vaguely remember... but remnants of that discussion are still active in my mind. However, I don't remember you making a proclamation that would have settled in my mind the idea that you had caught on.

The Bible is a guide for the inner self... not for the outside world. It is designed to show the individual how to deal with that outside world.

Who said it was?

You would have to address each individual to whom you are seeking an answer. I cannot answer for them.

Again, ask each individual.

Well, my belief in the Bible and its contents is 100% certain. In the near 65 years (my current age) no-one has been able to alter my Belief in the Bible and its contents. It must be pretty dog gone certain.

Faith, confidence. How many times do you sit in a chair without examining its structure to insure that it will support your weight? That same kind of confidence.

Why?

So, then you will just have to accept it as a fact that I believe that the Bible and its contents are true and real. You have already stipulated that you will not challenge my beliefs, then quit challenging the basis of my beliefs. You will never (oops there's one of those inappropriately used absolutes being used as a colloquialism) be able to change my beliefs therefore your time and energy spent in such an attempt is wasted.

Example please.

I not sure that Pharoah had a heart condition like hardening of the arteries.... Oh I get it ... that is one of those analogies... Now what is it about that story that you cannot believe?

I can think of quite a few people (my own relatives) whose names I would like to forget. All I can say is "Moses, teach me the secret".

 

I can think of quite a few people (my own relatives) whose names I would like to forget. All I can say is "Moses, teach me the secret".[/QUOTE]

Sorry.

 

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Sorry is correct. I don't respond to postings where a quote is made using the quote function and additional language is added to such quotations.

 

Scripture doesn't tell us but Bible scholars contend that during the Exodus, the Pharaoh at the time was Thutmoses III.

I mistakenly thought it was Ramesses II but I stand corrected by the Bible scholars.

My mistake was due to watching the movie, The Ten Commandments that starred the actor Charlton Heston. Now I come to realize there were many errors made in the movie and one of them was they had the name wrong for the Pharaoh at the time...oops!

 

Many folks get it wrong.
What make the scholars today more sure than those who made the movie 60 yrs ago?
A whole generation think the bible is described correctly in the 10 commandments. Many a folks seems have been duped.
Just going on faith alone sometimes isn't enough.

 

What?....2,488 yrs. before Christ? Look all I know is that the very first book of the Holy Bible, the Book of Genesis was written by Moses sometime between 1450-1410 B.C.

 

How am I suppose to respond to this. No reference to what the posts were about. Done probably 8 months ago.
What source shows the Pentateuch was written when stated as above?


According to tradition, the books were written by the Israelite leader, Moses. The Pentateuch is often called the Five Books of Moses or the Torah.
The Pentateuch tells the story from the Creation of the world to the death of Moses and the preparation of the Israelites to enter the land of Canaan. The story is told in three parts. The first part (Genesis 1-11) is about the Creation and the beginning of human beings on earth. The second part (Genesis 12-50) are the stories of the ancestors of the Israelites, mainly Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph. The third part, beginning with the book of Exodus, describes how the Israelites left Egypt and the early history of the people of Israel as a nation. It also has many laws about how the Israelites must build their society. Deuteronomy is mostly Moses's final speech to his people and a summary of the Pentateuch.
The Pentateuch is the oldest part of the Bible, but scholars do not know exactly when these books were written. The earliest parts may have been written more than 1,000 years before the final parts. Modern archaeological discoveries suggest that some of the oldest stories in Genesis may date back three thousand years.
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentateuch

 

Yeah, you are right, they don't know exactly when they were written that's why I mentioned it was between 1450-1410 B.C.

 

Why not 2488bc?
Just trying to get a reference to what that was all about.

 

You were responding to WanRen when you made that post. Can't you go back to the page I referenced, then you will see what that was all about.

 

All I know is that I have absolute faith in God but not in man. For it is a known fact that man will cheat you, steal from you, lie to you, murder you, commit adultery with your spouse...etc. Those are all sinful acts.

Furthermore, the last person to have faith in is a used car salesperson...lol...well ok, maybe they're not the last but you get my point.

So needless to say I would be disappointed that my loved one didn't first check out the car and I mean thoroughly, not just to see that it runs...lol

However when it comes to Almighty God, He is really not a being that you can check out as far as proving His existence/non-existence, that is why you just got to have faith of what is written in the Holy Bible since it is believed to be the Word of God.

But then you might object and say that's blind faith, well not exactly, because there are numerous evidence but again it's just a matter of faith in believing in them.

 

Genesis was written after the Babylonian exile and after Leviticus and Deuteronomy.. Leviticus was written during and after the Babylonian exile..

The creation story was consolidated by scribes under king Omri in a political effort to reunite the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom around 886-885 BC.. The two had different creation stories.

 

Last place probably goes to cult leaders.

"There are numerous evidence" is evidence of little formal education or concern for English usage.

 

That is right, all Egypt was to do was release the Israelites, and not to worship God, because God knew that although the Pharaoh acknowledges the God of the Israelites the Pharaoh does not and will not ever respect or worship Him.

God commissioned Moses to be a god but only to the Pharaoh. Moses was a god, but he was only a made god, not essentially one by nature; he was no god but by commission.

This proves true because throughout the plagues Pharaoh looked at Moses as being a god.

 

Red Tide is a red algae bloom.. it depletes oxygen and kills fish etc.... every plague that followed came from that... frogs, lice, flies.. followed by sick livestock and malaria.

 

I agree wholeheartedly!

 

Well you can start from the religious leaders of Israel, to the Romans who actually crucified Him but read the link below to get a thorough explanation.

http://www.gotquestions.org/responsible-Christ-death.html

 

Mitt: Have you ever seen a locust plague.. I have 3 separate times in the space of a decade.. You could see them coming from miles away blocking out the sun completely.. Millions and millions of them.They were not uncommon in the ME and North Africa... and in spite of eradication projects they still show up from time to time.

The first time I was around 8 years old and was fascinated. I put a scarf over my face so they wouldn't fly into my mouth and went outdoors. What I also found very amusing was how many American mothers were freaked out that it was the end of the world.

 

No I haven't but I can imagine it must be horrifying to see, especially for the sensitive ones like women and children.

 

The children loved it.. They would grab their tennis rackets and just have a wonderful time.

The Arabs liked it too.. They provided protein fodder for livestock .. The Arabs would shake them in a wide wok like pan over a fire and roast them. I never ate any, but my brothers did.

 

Lol! Yeah they are edible! Lots of protein!

 

Quite true.. John the Baptist ate locusts if you recall.. and some think that manna was Locusts.. although one would wonder why they didn't just eat lamb in the Sinai.



The deaths of the firstborns may have been some fungus in the grain like Ergot.. which may have caused the madness around the Salem Witch trials. Ergot is toxic to man and livestock.

 

Well that answer is not quite accurate, for he wasn't blaming all the Jews, for there were Jews that accepted Christ.

The Apostle Paul said, "For some of the Jews killed the prophets, and some even killed the Lord Jesus. Now they have persecuted us, too. They fail to please God and work against all humanity as they try to keep us from preaching the Good News of salvation to the Gentiles. By doing this, they continue to pile up their sins. But the anger of God has caught up with them at last."---1 Thessalonians 2:15-16 NLT