Part 9 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    No, that was not the purpose, but I must admit though, my faith strengthens more and more as I continually interact with you non-believers on these discussion threads of mine.

    And I'm not at all saying that I didn't have a lot of faith prior, it's just that these discussions have really enhanced my faith even more.

    I thank you all so dearly for that!
     
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    methinks thou doth protesteth too much ;)

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    not as horrifying as hearing a man claim women are somehow more 'sensitive' than men. you need a good smack upside the head, from a woman wearing combat boots a locust t-shirt.
     
  3. Mitt Ryan

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    Thanks dairyair, you are one of them that has enhanced my faith! God Bless!
     
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    Non-believers in God believe that something can come from nothing and that in itself requires a denial of reason.

    For it is unreasonable to think that something can come from nothing. Because from nothing, nothing comes.

    So I have exposed an untruthful statement coming from you.
     
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    So God can not exist because He comes from nothing.
    Is that your point?
     
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    so what does god come from?
     
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    Wrong...that is not my point! Stick around and you'll learn a few things.
     
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    I'm equally sure you won't.
    By your own reasoning, nothing can come from nothing, so God has to be a fantasy, right?
    Either that, or what "caused" God?
     
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    Is that thought what prompted you to think that you were telling lies to your congregation. If it is, then you can start with that one alleged lie and show irrefutable proof of your claim.
     
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    Be careful of your wording. They do like to twist your words and phrases and warp the meaning of those words and phrases to fit their agenda.
     
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    No.
    Your comment is completely irrelevant to my post.
    Would you care to say something connected to the discussion?
     
  12. Mitt Ryan

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    You claim to be a former ordained minister and you're asking me what caused God? Don't you know what the Scripture say about God? C'mon weren't you a former ordained minister or what?
     
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    An admission of the logical problem with his argument.
    Perhaps you can help him.
    If nothing can come from nothing, where did God come from?

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    So you have no answer?
    I thought you were here to answer the tough questions. Instead you simply get mad if they are asked.
     
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    Did the explosion (Big Bang) happened from out of nowhere?...from nothing? That doesn't appear logical because everyone knows that something does not come from nothing. So, if God is a "something," then He must have a cause, right?

    The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created or caused. God is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.

    How do we know this? We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing thing is what we call God. God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it. God has no beginning, has no ending, God is eternal. God is responsible for all creation.

    There are things which come into existence. Everything which comes into existence is caused to exist by something else. There cannot be an infinite series of past causes. Therefore, there exists a first cause which did not come into existence. In other words, the first cause always existed...which we call God.
     
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    Simple. God is in everything. Now, you answer this one: Where did everything come from?
     
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    It is connected to the question that you asked the other poster.
     
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    See my post #139. I have thoroughly answered it for your reading delight!...hehehe!
     
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    So things that exist have a cause.
    God does not have a cause.
    So.....

    Your mistake is thinking non-believers think things come from nothing.
    They don't.
    They simply don't pretend to know everything.
    They can have the humility to say they don't know yet.

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    No it really isn't.
     
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    That doesn't answer where he came from. It avoids the question entirely.

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    I read it.
    You state a law and then say it doesn't apply to your deity.
     
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    Good. It is nice to know something good came of this.
     
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    The big bang of course, which came from nothing according to one poster.
     
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    If you can cite that poster, blame them, but don't broad-brush non-believers with them.
     
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    Maybe you believe your family line came from insect banana eating apes but please leave my family line out of the equation...lol
     
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    Who said my threads aren't educational?...lol I have always said, when people come to my threads they learn things.
     
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    What's an insect banana?
     
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