Part II What's holding Black America back

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Frank Grimes, Jan 5, 2014.

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    You just don't want to put together a REAL picture of things, do you?

    It's sad (among other things.) :(
     
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    i just put together a real picture of black people publicly advocating for the murder of white people
     
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    Well said. And, Amen.
     
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    this isnt a thread about white people
     
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    And this is relevant to the discussion how?

    Let me guess... those black people advocating for the murder of white people are somehow supposed to "represent" the black community?

    This is what happens when you mix ignorance, contempt, and a lack of caring about your fellow citizens. The difference between a black man and a white man is that black man you posted advocating for the murder of white people becomes a spokesperson for the black race in the mind of an ignorant white man. He is not indicative of a substantial portion of the black community. As a white man, you and Mr. Grimes can continue to posture your prejudiced thoughts in this thread and NOT be representative of the entire white race. That is a luxury black men don't have. It is called white privilege. You can get away with it because whites are the majority in America.
     
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    A black man murdering a white man is usually not racially based. It certainly exists, but you have no proof that white men are being murdered because of their race.

    The murdering of black men by white women usually have criminal and / or racial prejudice surrounding them due to ignorance and negative stereotypes about blacks.

    Most black gangbangers I've ever known don't care about white people because they don't encounter them much. Most violence in poor black neighborhoods is gang related; thus black on black crime.
     
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    No, you are simply propagating a perspective; one you wish to PAINT upon the minds of less astute Americans.

    The picture you paint uses elements from reality, but it is distorted by the biases you house within yourself.

    You need to learn that people can see (readily) what I've just described to you.

    Please, stop wasting time (that of others and your own).

    Really... IT IS TIME FOR AMERICANS TO BE HONEST (about their society).
     
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    To be clear, you just discredited yourself.

    Your example is of ONE man, yet you use the term black people. Hence, you are GENERALIZING because you have no knowledge of black people.

    I rest my case.
     
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    who said i was white? seems to me like you have some serious issues with white people.
    right whites are the majority in america and there are more black on white murders than there are white on black even though there are 6 times as many whites than there are blacks. if you dont see a serious problem with that then there is something seriously wrong with you.

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    show me a recent instance of whites calling for the killing of black babies.
    and dont pretend my video has no relevance to this thread.
     
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    No, that isn't what you did.

    And you'll have to prove a LOT more, to convince me otherwise.
     
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    Defense mechanism.

    You don't even have the basis to make that accusation so I won't dignify that with a response.

    Furthermore, it seems like you are the one obsessed with color.

    How many of those black on white murders involved the black man stalking the white man because of criminal intent, a stereotype, or just pure racial hatred?
     
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    i never said it was racially based all i said is there are more black on white murders than there are white on black. try to concentrate.
     
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    Brilliant, just brilliant. (Yeah, right.)
     
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    they were real black people calling for the killing of white babies were they not?
     
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    here is the basis right here
    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6
    same link i posted before you missed because you havent been concentrating.
    oh right im obsessed with color because im talking about black issues in a thread about black people. but you the one who keeps ignorantly pointing your finger at white people aren't obsessed with race. right and im santa clause
     
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    so is yours you ignorant racist.
    shall i join in with you and make this thread about how bad the white man is? would that make you happy you tool?
     
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    I made it quite clear why I care in the OP, and I have made a huge difference by paying a lot of taxes that supports those people. I don't hold bIacks in contempt, I hold the politics of liberal black people in contempt. The politics of never ending complaints, like the one you just made that I am supposed solve black America's problems, that I have a special burden to bear because I am a white American, that I owe them something more than others. I hold in contempt the politics of Obama and Holder that call disparate outcomes racist while never examining disparate achievements, or disparate behaviors, the same politics that all people like you nod in agreement with like it is some sort of religious dogma. The politics of us vs. them , black people always saying they have to stick together vs. them. We all know who them is, it's people like me who have done nothing wrong. The 'racist society' implications offend me. I know the blaming and complaining will never end, I have reduced my demands to just wanting blacks to pull their own economic weight, which is what I stated in the OP.

    You bring up poor white trash, the thing is we are all harder on them because we allow no excuses. I have never tried to make any excuses for them, but change their skin color and out you guys come.
     
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    Because history comes along with changing the skin color.

    Nice little speech. Where has me or ANY one of the posters against you in this thread even IMPLIED that you owe something to the black community? The only thing you owe is respect as a fellow citizen. If you don't want to respect someone because they are lazy that is your perogative. Most will agree with that sentiment. However, you disrespecting an ENTIRE race of people as a whole because of your assumptions is WHY people are implying that you are a racist. You are GENERALIZING. Am I making myself clear?

    You don't owe me anything and I for sure don't owe you gah-damn (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing so let's leave it at that. I pay taxes so your ignorant blanket statements about blacks are offensive to me, for I am a black male from a hard working successful family.
     
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    I'm not going to be 'distracted' by the nonsense YOU keep relating.

    But I would be interested, if you or other White Americans (if that's what you are) WOULD start a few threads on what you see as issues or problems with WHITE AMERICANS.

    You see, the foolishness of the stuff that you and SO MANY others keep relating here in this forum... is the bizarre idea that White American society/culture is somehow separate or detached from the very people or things you are talking about in these "Black" threads.

    And truly, the problems which MANY Blacks suffer, do stem from the behaviors of White Americans. It is annoying and frustrating to (sometimes) to see people complaining about the very problems they have CONTRIBUTED to.

    So, that would be awesome... to see a series of threads started by White Americans, discussing flaws, faults and problems that are a part of YOUR culture.

    I think we've talked so much about the problems of "Blacks"... is those kinds of threads are kind of like reading a billboard at a movie theatre (surreal even). You step in, KNOWING that some form of contrived entertainment and story-telling is going to take place. Problem is, even after a really GOOD MOVIE... many realize that it's only a movie.

    What I'm suggesting here, isn't far-fetched... not by any means.
     
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    Go ahead and make that thread. You won't find any of us in there chiming in with ignorant statements about white people.
     
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