Paul fans Get their wish !

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  1. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    and people who say othwerwise are trolling.
     
  2. Dan40

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    This post is a considerable improvement. It requires me to take the word of the poster but that is much better info than those that deflect and vilify.

    I'll check the link later as I have time.
     
  3. What is free

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    The problem is that it is tough to consider what being a successful congressman is.

    For me, it is their voting record. The fact that he never, in 35 years, voted to increase taxes or voted for an unbalanced budget says a lot about him. I began to support Paul based on his message and speeches - luckily, his voting record confirms everything he says is legitimate. Many politicians talk the talk, but Paul walks the walk. That's why he's getting my vote.
     
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    so says our little, privilege seeking, big government statist.
     
  5. Dan40

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    Your snarkiness and inane and erroneous remarks simply expose your intelligence level.

    Unimpressive to a fault.
     
  6. GoSlash27

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    Okay folks,
    Once again we're at a 9 and we need to be at a 5. We can disagree without making it personal.
     
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    Now now, let's not forget that we Paul supporters are just making thousands of alternate email addresses and adding ourselves to the map multiple times.
     
  9. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    when a man finds himself bunching up this many sets of panties, on both sides of the aisle, you know he's doing something right.
     
  10. GoSlash27

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    Cool! Done.
     
  11. Jstar

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    Not to mention coming up with different names and zip codes to go with them....;)

    We seem to be missing some spots right in the middle...I have a feeling that will get filled in as well.

    LOL Well said
     
  12. dujac

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    ron paul has been in political office for decades
     
  13. MnBillyBoy

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    Cool...But let's examine closer..If he never voted for all this stuff what DID HE VOTE FOR..and ...( drum roll )

    1.He never voted to raise taxes.. GREAT NEWS ! What a guy !
    But ( he who shall not be mentioned ) CUT TAXES 14 times in 4 years.

    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e...7/12/14/romney_is_the_kind_of_leader_we_need/

    Instead of raising taxes or borrowing more money, Romney cut spending and closed the budget gap. As one commentator said, he "didn't just go after the sacred cows, he went after the whole herd." In his first year, government spending declined from $22.8 billion in Fiscal 2002 to $22.4 billion in Fiscal 2003. END.

    Now ..some guy never voted to raise taxes V. a guy who did that in 4 years.You see..it takes more than VOTING NO.

    2. Never Voted for a federal gun restriction on Gun ownership ?
    Great news ! What a guy !..

    ( he who shall not be mentioned ) INHERITED the most strict gun control law in America Passed by democrats in Mass. IT was Already there before HE TOOK OFFICE. Within 4 years he removed the worst language and redid the law to favor gun owners using bi partisan leadership and the NRA and MASS. GOAL said it was a most complete victory they could hope for.
    AS for the federal vote..

    “I'll ask Congress to repeal the McCain-Fiengold law which sought to impose restrictions on the First Amendment rights of groups like the NRA to advocate for issues we care about. Some parts have already been declared unconstitutional. We ought to get rid of the entire bill."

    It takes more than voting No..It takes real leadership To UNDO what has been already wrecked..

    3. He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    Great ! What a guy !
    But...Did he accept those raises anyway ?

    and ( he who shall not be mentioned ) has never accepted pay for any of his public service, EVER..
    He didn't use it as some campaign theme..he did it years ago...for the Olympics and while as governor.Leadership can be seen as DOING what is right...not just voting No on an issue.

    4.He has never taken a Government paid junket ?
    Great.. But wait a moment...who is doing his work in Texas right now ?
    While traveling around the country raising money and campaigning while earning money for not doing his job.. This could be considered a junket.
    My guy isn't doing that.
    A real leader who really thinks that would have resigned 4 years ago and announced he was running for president. My guy didn't run for Governor of Mass. again because he was running for president THEN.
    Leadership that is accountable.

    5. Has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
    Great news..SOLID..but then as president he said he would do away with many departments and agencies.End the war on drugs.
    Think that is within presidential powers?
    I think Not...Ending the fed..without congressional debate..??
    Do people who disagree with Paul have a say when and If he is elected ?
    It appears this is not a promise he would keep...but expand.
    Using his words.

    6. He voted against the Patriot Act..
    BAD NEWS..Terrible decision.
    What has Paul voted FOR or argued what he might use to replace that act ?
    Voting NO..is not leadership but a position..and a weak one.
    Both sides voted yes for a reason..The war on terror is not a war that can be WON granting constitutional rights to those who follow no laws of man.
    The courts allowed the law to stand.
    Does Paul want to expand presidential powers and do away with it if elected ? Voting No shows his fringe ideology..not the security interest of a Nation.

    7. He voted No against regulating the internet ?
    Cool..great news..I think..Not up there with creating new jobs...but OK..

    8.He voted against the Iraq war.
    Great news !
    What war will he VOTE for ? Is a better question or statement.Will he help defend Israel if they are attacked...?
    South Korea ? What would he do if evidence was shown that a nation had WMD's ?
    Voting No only seems right since we now know what happened.
    What if Paul had been WRONG ?

    END..

    But still I find it amazing all these No votes..What about those
    Yes votes ?...to end federal prosecution on the war on drugs..
    Why not use his YES votes...??

    Be proud to show what Paul has voted yes For..
     
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    I just posted 6 pages of Congressional votes that show Ron Paul has a NV on issues that this congress is voting on...

    And you call that creepy ?

    This is politics.
    That isn't political.

    What happens when Obama uses that against Paul ?

    You call him creepy ?
    Can Paul use those " Present votes " against Obama ?

    Nope..an issue removed.
    Pt. President Obama.
     
  17. DA60

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    And how many posts against Ron Paul have you typed?

    And how many threads against Ron Paul have you started?

    Find those answers and you will find the source of my view that your negative fixation on Ron Paul is 'creepy'.
     
  18. Jash2o2

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    All of those NVs are due to him currently running an election campaign. He isn't going to be voting when he is in other states making speeches and all that other great campaigning stuff.
     
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    No matter how hard you try, nobody's ever going to do more than grudgingly pull a lever for Romney. You may well be the only person in the entire country that's actually excited about a Romney administration (except for Mitt himself).

    Some more differences between the two:
    -Paul gets his donations from individual Americans and active servicemen. Romney gets his from special interest groups and his own pockets.
    -Paul has an army of volunteers canvassing in all 50 states. Romney's got the Republican Party establishment.
    -Paul has written bestselling books on the subjects of international relations, monetary policy, and Constitutional law. Romney wrote the outline for Obamacare.
    -Paul speaks in terms of a unifying philosophy. Romney speaks in bumper stickers.
    -If Paul chooses to run 3rd party, it will destroy any chance of a Republican victory. If Romney chooses to run 3rd party, nobody would even notice.

    And most importantly,
    Paul's supporters won't get behind anybody but him because they see him as the solution. Romney's supporters are looking for *anyone else* to get behind because they see him as the lesser of two evils.

    Face it; we live in a different age now. The truth is a few mouse clicks away and the voters are communicating and sharing more. It takes more than just a fake-tanned sock puppet with cheap slogans to compete.
     
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    So Paul gets a pass..and a campaign issue for Obama is removed.

    You know all those so called vacations and golf outings Republicans rail against Obama on ?
    Not showing leadership by being there ?
    What congressional leadership has Paul shown in the last Congress on issues like military benefits..balanced budgets..when he wasn't even there to VOTE on those issues.

    Obama will use that over and over..
    Another campaign issue removed against Obama...by voting for Paul.

    Most dems and most republicans support the Patriot Act.

    3 issues for President Obama..
    The list keeps growing with every Paul vote.
     
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    LOL. And if its brought up by Obama, Ron Paul will just pull out Obama's voting history... And there in lies the reason the office of the president is at an all time low approval rating... Its even lower than Bush's...
     
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    Im questioning your logic here... How will the American people think a NV is an issue worth condemning him over? The average joe shmoe will not even believe its an issue. His common sense will tell him "Gee, Ron Paul was in ________ state, campaigning, when that bill was being voted on"

    Then they will see his long, long history of issues he actually has voted on, and the support pours in...
     
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    I see you're asking about what Ron Paul has voted 'for' and not against....well to be honest there is about 90% crap that has crossed the table to vote on that is unconstitutional..and Ron Paul will not vote 'yes' for anything that is not allowed by the constitution for government involvement or enforcement.

    If its unconstitutional, Ron Paul will vote no.

    So think of it in those terms, and you will see why he votes 'no' most of the time.

    He's NOT part of the status quo, he doesn't 'go along to get along'..he's a strict constitutionalist as he and the rest should be.
     
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    Truly a great post, imo
     
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    I totally agree
     

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