PBS Official: Repeal The Natural Born Citizen Clause To Avoid Birther Controversy

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  1. rahl

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    his fathers status has no relevance to obama's status since he wasn't a diplomat with immunity.
     
  2. rahl

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    a CERTIFIED COPY of the long form is the COLB.
     
  3. rahl

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    because it's not relevant to eligibility.
     
  4. Trench

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    OK, stick with your game plan.

    It's working so well for you.

    After you've gotten Obama impeached, you can go to work on that whole Codex Alimentarius thingy.

    Trench
     
  5. Revere

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    He said he said, didn't he?
     
  6. SFJEFF

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    Lets review exactly what he said:

    Barack Obama was born in the United States in 1961, and he is fully eligible to be where he is.

    If we were to repeal the clause, we would open the doors to the children of the new America, a nation that began to take shape when President Lyndon Johnson signed the Immigration Act of 1965. Orrin Hatch suggested this almost seven years ago — he was thinking then of a possible Schwarzenegger bid — and you can imagine how far the initiative got. Amendments take time, but this one is worth the effort.

    And just think: if it ever passes, we can call it the Trump Amendment. And with that kind of branding, even the Donald might sign on.

    Don't see anything about him saying "so what if Obama wasn't born here"

    Perhaps you are seeing what you want to see?
     
  7. SFJEFF

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    Read the Constitution- I refer you to the section regarding impeachment.

    Of course if you have read the Constitution, then there is no excuse.
     
  8. Revere

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    The birther argument has always bored me. I was waiting until it morphed into this. It's much more interesting, and really takes the mask off the "screw Americansim" crowd.
     
  9. Revere

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    Because, you must admit, wherever Obama was born, he has no use for Americanism.
     
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    No I don't have to admit that- that is purely your opinion.
     
  11. Revere

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    No, he believes America is his to remake in his own image.
     
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    You are welcome to your opinions, but you are wrong.
     
  13. Revere

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    Ah, so he is out to preserve the country and not transform it?
     
  14. John1735

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    It tells you that these liberals place their own power before the good of our nation, and are willing to throw the Constitution under the bus, when the Constitution is no longer convenient to their own political agenda.

    It tells us, that this liberal at PBS is anything but a patriot.
     
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    Let me modify what I said.

    You are welcome to your opinion. I try keep my comments to addressing the idiocy of Birthers, and the lies about eligiblity. That is not what you are saying.
     
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    "Orrin Hatch suggested this almost seven years ago — he was thinking then of a possible Schwarzenegger bid"

    Clearly anyone who suggests a Constitutional amendment must not be a patriot.
     
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    There is absolutely NO reason to change the Constitution .. Natural born/citizen at birth is clearly defined.

    HERE: http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
     
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    Like I said, the birther argument bores me. The notion that foreign nationals (or people like Obama) who don't care about preserving Americanism are fit to lead is garbage.

    That's the can of worms the guy at PBS opened up.
     
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    Thank God Schwarzenegger only had one state to destroy and not 57.
     
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    Lets talk about FACTS then shall we.

    FACT Obama broke a law he helped put into place in the firing of IG Walpin. Further more he comitted a High crime or misdemeanor in doing so as the law in particularly dealt with Presidential acts.

    FACT this President has increased government influence and control over private industry like no other from taking over and using tax money to bail out private business's.

    To even going so far as to direct his EPA to attempt to regulate the very air the private citizen exhales out their nose. But no,no,no, no transformation going on here folks, they've always regulated the air you exhale in Washington D.C. folks. :rolleyes:

    I mean come on folks, that one in and of itself makes this position these liberals are arguing, that Obama is not attempting to transform and remake America into what he thinks America should be, absurd.

    FACT this President illegally, and without Constitutional authority to do so, has prevented private business from operating within the United States by imposing a "drilling moratorium" in the gulf and other area's.

    FACT this President has actively sought and done everything he can do, too attack and destroy traditional, abundant, cheap source's of energy.

    Increasing the burden of energy costs on the citizen, as well as business.

    FACT the bill known as Obamacare contains within it, for the first time in our history, a mandate by the federal government, that citizen A, must on pain of imprisonment, fines, or both purchase goods or services from citizen B, in what are by definition, INTRA State transactions since Insurance cannot be sold INTER STATE under already existing Federal laws.

    Lets talk about those FACTS which demonstrate quite clearly that this President and administration are attempting to not only vastly beyond Constitutional Constraint increase the power of the executive, but which demonstrate that this President is in FACT attempting to "transform" (a word he himself was using until recently by the way) this nation away from what it was, traditional America.

    Into something else, something that is clearly more akin to the Third Reich or former Soviet Union.

    Where government dictated what was bought and sold, and by whom, as Obamacare seeks to do.

    Not a free and libertine America.
     
  21. Revere

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    It's all the same argument for me. PBS wants people who don't give a rat's ass about Americanism, or, in Obama's case, have spoken out against it regularly and fervently.

    The birther argument that PBS and it's ilk wants to make the issue is a distraction.

    Take your self-hating crap out of my country.
     
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    Yes. Born on US soil to TWO US citizen parents.
    How hard it that to understand?
     
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    And of what use do you have for "Americanism"?

    Trench
     
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    You don't have to have two parents who are US citizens even if you are born over seas.

    Read the statute carefully.

    Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

    •Anyone born inside the United States *

    •Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

    •Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

    •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

    •Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

    •Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

    •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

    •A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United


    ( You may want to look up who is a US NATIONAL to fully understand what you are reading)
     
  25. Revere

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    Any President who demands the government grows by leaps and bounds while everyone else sacrifices, and no matter how miserable increasing numbers of Americans are, is not an American.
     

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