Pentagon Alarmed With Russia’s Military Satellite 'Maneuvering Too Much'

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    The U.S. has a very capable Anti-Missile-Anti-Satellite System that could very easily destroy any Russian Active and Orbital Anti-Satellite System.

    The U.S. has the SM-3 AMB/ASAT Missile which exists in numbers aboard all U.S. Navy Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruisers of which at least 2 of these Cruisers exist within each and every single U.S. Nuclear Carrier Battle Group.

    The U.S. also already has multiple Dual Nuclear Reactor Supplied Energy Free Electron Laser Systems that are LAND BASED as well as a few Ocean Based and soon all U.S. Carriers and Cruisers will have FEL's...Free Electron Laser Systems installed as the CVN-78 Gerald R. Ford...CVN-79 J.F.K.....and CVN-80 ENTERPRISE all 3 being the first 3 Ford Class Stealth Carriers which will have installed two A1B Nuclear Reactors suplying power to Carrier Based FEL Systems as well as power the Mag-Lev Aircraft Launch Catapult replacing the old Steam Catapults.

    GPS is a U.S. Created and Installed Worldwide Satellite System which the United States allows ANY NATION OR CORPORATION TO USE if they pay their dues.

    IT IS NOT THE ONLY TARGETING METHOD WE HAVE!!!

    GPS Tagetting could be replaced in MOMENTS by removing the nose cone targetting set up on any given bomb.

    JDAM's are simply a KIT that are added to 1000 and 2000 lbs bombs.

    We have not only Laser Designation on the ground but as well this can be done VIA SATELLITE.

    STARLIGHT TARGETTING IS AVAILABLE as we have been using it for many decades on all U.S. ICBM's.

    ROBOTIC COMPUTERIZED TOPOGRAPHIC LOCATION TARGETTING DESIGNATION is another way of targetting.

    And the U.S. has MANY VERSIONS OF EXISTING GPS SATELLITES WHICH COULD BE LAUNCHED FROM VANDENBURG AND OTHER LOCATIONS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SYSTEM!!!

    Facts are....the United States has by far the best ANTI-SATELLITE SYSTEM EXISTING.....and GPS is not our only method of targetting.

    And here is ONE GLARING FACT!!!


    IF YOU ARE A NATION THAT IS STUPID ENOUGH TO ATTEMPT TO SHOOT DOWN U.S. GPS SATELLITES....YOU ARE A NATION THAT WILL SOON END UP NO LONGER BEING A NATION!!!

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  2. AboveAlpha

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    This is true but any attempt or actual purposeful destruction of a U.S. Satellite of any kind is considered an ACT OF WAR!!!

    Russia is not even CLOSE to being a match for U.S. Military Forces unless Russia was to go NUCLEAR.

    Russia is not SUICIDAL!!!

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  3. AboveAlpha

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    The ONLY Nation capable of shooting down or destroying U.S. GPS Satellite's is the U.S.

    Russia is the only nation besides the United States that is even CAPABLE of building an Anti-Satellite Missile capable of destroying U.S. GPS Satellites but Russia does not have the money or any reason to spend and waste the BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS OF DOLLARS NECESSARY to design and build such Anti-Satellite Missiles.

    Even if Russia developed such missiles like the SM-3 which has already been tested as here is a link to what happened.

    LINK....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqNjnUNUl8

    On 20 Feb 2008 HST, the USS Lake Erie (CG-70) fired a modified tactical Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) missile at the malfunctioned spy satellite USA 193. The impact occurred at about 150 miles above the Pacific Ocean and at an impact velocity of around 22,000 mph. The Aegis Weapon System (AWS) confirmed a successful hit and rupture of the satellite's hydrazine fuel tank, tracking debris from the impact "no larger then a football".

    Now this was back in 2008 and anyone who goes to the link can actually WATCH THE TELESCOPIC VIDEO of an SM-3 directly impacting and exploding the HYDRAZINE TANK of this failing satellite.

    Since 2008 the U.S. has developed SM-3 capable of destroying Satellites in GEOSYNCRONOUS ORBIT.

    China IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THIS LEVEL OF TECHNOLOGY.

    Russia could develop it but it would take years and Billions of Dollars that Russia DOES NOT HAVE!!!

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    LINK....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDqNjnUNUl8

    At the 4 Minutes and 25 seconds mark on this linked Video it shows the DIRECT IMPACT OF THE SM-3 ABM/ASAT EXPLODING JUST THE HYDRAZINE BOOSTER TANK.

    The Hydrazine Booster Tank was JUST A PART OF THE MALFUNCTIONING U.S. SATELLITE and the U.S. Technological ability to just target a PART of a satellite shows other Nations the incredible high level of technology the United States Military possesses as far as Anti-Balistic Missile....ABM....and Anti-Satellite ASAT.....capability.

    As well new ACM's.....Anti-Cruise Missile...Missiles are now aboard all Ticonderoga Class Aegis Cruisers of which at least 2 are in EVERY SINGLE U.S. NAVY CARRIER BATTLE GROUP.

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    Those countries were invaded by the same Marxist ideologists that took over Russia in 1917...and they know it. Their animosity has nothing to do with the Soviet Union, and everything to do with their historical memory...and that goes back one thousand years to the split in the Churches.

    Western Europe rationalized its expansionist ambitions eastwards, by a pretense of reuniting the Churches. There were wars of course, but it was the Pope that wanted authority over all of Christendom, not the Metropolitan of Moscow.
     
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    funny, how the Soviet Union in 1939 teamed up with the Nazis so as to REBUILD the Russian Empire that was lost after WW1.

    Soviet land grabs were really just Russian aggression with a red flag.
     
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    Are you drunk?
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    I have a very difficult time getting drunk.

    Are you?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I think the US is too concerned with Russia, and we need to stop meddling, and waging economic war with Russia. Here we are, in terrible shape inside the US, an economic model that impoverishes our own people, destroying our middle class, 19th and worn out 20th century infrastructure, and we would rather spend money and go into debt over this damned meddling, and perpetual war for perpetual peace instead of fixing our own broken down nation. That is what I think. As some people who used to be in gov't long ago have said, our gov't is being run by damned idiots, who are only adept and skilled at sucking oligarchy Koch as they commit treason against their own working people and middle class.
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    This entire issue is about Russia breaking the DEAL.

    We buy and destroy all Soviet Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons in the Ukraine, Georgia, Russia...etc....and Russia promises never to invade of interfere with such nations.

    If we did not do this there would have been NUKES aimed at Moscow from the Ukraine and Russia would never have DARED annexing the Crimea.

    We bought and destroyed those weapons....then Putin annexes the Crimea.

    THAT...is the issue.

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    OK, then it was a miss-understanding. :)

    But as told on other place and thread too ... I deny that occupation of Crimean Peninsula is that bad as the so called West is telling. In my opinion it is reasoned at least, because 2/3 of population are Russian, 1/4 is Ukrainian and rest several minorities. So the will of majority of the people which is always claimed to be so important for the West and which was reason to back revolution in Kiev 2014 by the West ... was here in Crimean Peninsula to become part of Russia. So what is now bad for it? Nothing at least!

    However ... about topic: Nothing more as some "show" which is common for other countries too. :)
     
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    I got serious doubts any American or Russian military equipment will suffer much from EMP, not the hardest thing to shield against.

    Freddy.
     
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    If the motor is a diesel with an older style fuel injection pump it can be rigged to start up fairly easily.
    Old cars with points in the distributer & no computer control module will be unaffected.

    Power line cables & copper telephone cables strung above ground on poles for long distances will suffer an induced current as the EMP travels past tripping circuit breakers,etc. Fiber optic telephone & internet cables will not be affected per say but terminal boxes & power could be affected.

    A lot of things will have some level of shielding for protection from lightning strikes & will therefor be less exposed to the effects of EMP, what will be affected & to what degree by an EMP weapon in the real world we will probably only know when it happens.
     
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    About Poland - The Soviet signed the peace agreement with Hitler to delay war. It not aggression, but protection. About Afghanistan - ask AboveAlpha he will confirm, the USA provoked the USSR for war in Afghanistan. The USSR fulfilled an international duty. About Czech Republic, provocation of the USA in the capital was arranged, NATO prepared for invasion into Czech Republic, but the USSR in common, together with all allies, liquidated provocation. About Finland, was part of Russia earlier and Russia gave it the status of independence. Before World War II, the USSR showed a little aggression to part of Finland that to turn this part into defense on approaches to Leningrad. Actually too protection.
    Sacred Russia always is only protected from the aggressive West with its artful plans.
     
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    :roflol:

    he probably simply shocked, having learned that some Americans help the Russian separatists:angel:
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  16. Mandelus

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    Sorry, but this is well known old pure crap of silly propaganda and still disproved utterly by facts and USSR archives itself!

    USSR invasion of Poland was only self protection? Are you kidding? Poland raised after end of WW-1 again and was still under attack of USSR then … and USSR lost this utterly! Since then Poland was hated by USSR and when Hitler (in detail Foreign minister Ribbentrop) went to Moscow it was the clear willing of both to share Poland territory. And what did USSR get? These regions they lost against Poland before! That 1 ulterior motive was to have a “buffer zone” to Nazi Germany is of course possible and in my opinion very likely too … but it was pure revenge as main reason.

    Afghanistan War of USSR provoked by USA? Lol … sorry! What silly claim is that? It was pure global thinking of the USSR not to allow any change of government next to their border … same global thinking what USA let enter Vietnam War. If USA provoked USSR to enter Afghanistan, then USSR provoked USA to enter Vietnam same way!

    Destruction of Czech Revolution in 1968 was provoked by the USA? Oh my god! Take a closer look on the true and undisputed documents about strategic and tactical thinking in Warsaw Pact and NATO! There was never ever any plan to enter the CSSR from NATO side and this wasn’t even possible as NATO troops in Western Germany were deployed! The opposite thing is the case, because NATO expected before seriously an attack by Warsaw Pact due to fact that many units from the backland suddenly used their radios in Western area of Warsaw Pact. For some units was the so called “NATO Alert” given due to that fact. It was only over when it was found out that these units were missing mostly their artillery units … and it is not only fact but even like law that Warsaw Pact and Red Army in special makes no real war without artillery units!
    And THIS shows the disproof of your claim of USA provocation too, because if the Warsaw Pact thought seriously that NATO will attack here, they would have for sure not moved without their artillery!

    Finland was part of Russia Empire, Yes, but after liberation it was a thorn in the meat of USSR in matter of Petrograd / Leningrad. USSR wanted to have back always some regions of Finland and Stalin saw in winter 1939/1940 the good opportunity to get them with Britain and France being in war with Germany. And if you look closer on what USSR conquered here, it is exactly that what they wanted to have before and where Finland shows them of course the middle finger to give peaceful.

    Cheers :)
     
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    Stalin was the skillful strategist, he didn't revenge Poland. (these are your guesses) It was the temporary prize of the USSR for war procrastination.:cool:

    AboveAlpha, you weren't right when said that it is the cunning-clever USA provoked war in Afghanistan. Mandelus's exposed you:smile:
     
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    And why were nearly exactly and only these areas of Poland given to USSR by contract, which they lost about 20 years before in war against Poland? To tell it was only a self-protection act or procrastination of the inevitable war of Nazi vs. Communist is going away by wrong detour to understand truth. If you take a look on later extreme surprised and paralyzed Stalin in 1941 when Germany attacks USSR, it tells another story. Sure, I will not deny that procrastination of the war was one of the intentions here, but one of the minor ones. This is due to fact that Stalin did not even negotiate to get more as that what USSR lost before and not lesser as that … and that is the reason, why this negotiations of Ribbentrop and Stalin / Molotov ended so fast with success.

    I will not deny that CIA and other services of the West were involved and working in Afghanistan against their at this time “communist” government … as they did elsewhere in the world same way too like their counters of KGB did. It was the time of cold war here and this was “normal business on both sides”!
    By fact CIA supported the Mujahidin with money and weapons still before intervention / invasion of USSR against the central government … as did several Islamic groups and countries did too, because fighting the godless communists! The USSR invasion was done out of pure global thinking in Moscow in matter of installing and stabilizing the communist government and fighting down the rebels with reason to secure their southeastern flank!
    This can now be blamed as evil by the USSR, but anyone who does must same way blame depending actions of USA in other areas too (Vietnam, the dirty war in Central America etc.).
    But that USA provoked invasion of USSR into Afghanistan is a bad propaganda myth ... and as told, if was provocation of USA, then USSR provoked USA same way for their comparing "actions".
     
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    I will tell you admitting some truths about your country will only make you look stronger, and more honest when debating. With this statement above, seems your no better then a 9/11 truther. Everything is conspiracy, no way peaceful Russia ever starts a war... really? Yeah I remember it was not called the Russian empire, it was called the Russian hippie communion of nations.
     
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    Wrong. As usual. I've stated many times on this forum that the Russian media engages in propaganda.
     
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    about time!!!!
     
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    Bravo! The Western media can not brainwash you. Once again - Bravo!
     
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    Russian T-72's and BMP's are only shielded to an extent.

    A strong enough EMP and they would grind to a hault.

    Communication would be rendered inert.

    Anything that has a computer chip would cease to function.

    Anything with a Solenoid would not work either.

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    Poland and Russia constantly clashed and divided the territory. Now for example, all would be happy, my opinion that the western part of Ukraine belonged to Poland, and east Russia. Who aggressive if to speak globally, is a controversial issue.
     

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