Perry for President but dodged VIETNAM

Most of the pot-smoking, hippies who fled from Viet Nam service ran off to CANADA!!!! And they weren't conservatives, either.

 

Remember, that is the same thing that liberals said of Reagan in 1979.

 

Thank you. Was waiting for someone to mention draft dodger Slick Willy....

He was the coward - not Bush or Perry.

Oops, forgot - and thank you for your service....

 

I have two words for you Yukon: Bill Clinton

 

The "Coward-In-Chief" Bill Clinton even said he "loathed the military!"

 

And they procreated lots of little Canadians. Some of which probably post on this forum

 

I take it you were called up again and decided not to go back.

 

Perry aparently adroitly avoided serving in Vietnam by signing up to haul equipment, much as Bush avoided risking his sorry ass by having his dad get him into the TANG. Apparently Texas has a tradition of producing sons who avoid fighting for our country while pretending to.

 

So, anyone who serves in the military during a time of war and doesn't have a job that involves combat in some capacity is automatically a coward or something?

I don't think either President Bush or Governor Perry ever even hinted that they "fought for the country", so saying that they pretended to fight for the country is a misrepresentation. They may have said that they "served the country", but that's a common thing for those who were in the military.

 

Explain how that worked? Equipment was haul to Vietnam in the cargo planes he flew and those cargo were planes stationed in Vietnam. He had as good a chance as anyone to go there except for he fact the war ended before he reached flight status.

He didn't have to do anything to avoid serving in Vietnam, he was inoculated from being called up because he got a high draft number.

 

Had you ever served in the military you would realize how incredibly stupid this claim is.
You might also research how many times the TANG has been deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Had there not been a draft in the Vietnam period, they would have been deployed then as well. Its hilarious watching know nothings sprout off nonsense.

 

During Vietnam TANG was never deployed and there were no plans to deploy them. Bush jr got into TANG to avoid have to actualy fight.

The fact that they are deployed now, 30 years later, has nothing to do with it.

 

All Veterans had the potential of being sent to a war zone. Certainly many Veterans enlisted in the Air Force or Navy as there was less risk than being drafted. They still served, and some were sent to VietNam, and died.

You can't be too bright as it would have been 40 years, not 30!

 

Bush Sr. got his son assigned to TANG. He was assigned to it so he wouldn't have to actually fight. TANG was not deployed during vietnam because of the draft...and that's the freaking point....he was purposely assigned to TANG so that he didn't have to fight and since he enlisted, he didn't have to worry about being drafted.

 

So what? He still served in uniform unlike the REAL coward Bill Clinton! Also, Bush's unit DID have the potential of being sent to the war zone.

 

I was stationed in the Pentagon and had excellent connections in the assignments dept. I volunteered to go to Vietnam. It was the only action we had. [the sins of an inexperienced mind] Do I begrudge anyone that was in uniform and didn't go? No I don't. The next day their fate could have changed. My best friend to this day [classmates since grade school] went in the USAF. He never left the USA, 4 years. That is the assignments he caught. That I went and he didn't means nothing to either of us. The cowards that fled to Canada are a different story.

Perry was an active duty cargo pilot. His unit could have been reassigned to Vietnam overnight.

When in the military, you are sure of being in the military, nothing else.

 

Wrong his unit did serve in Vietnam as did many other NG units.

"The Air National Guard has often been ridiculed as a safe place for military duty during the Vietnam War. However, pilots from the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group, as it was called at the time, were actually conducting combat missions in Vietnam when Bush enlisted. Air Force F-102 squadrons had been stationed in Thailand since 1961 and South Vietnam since March 1962. It was during this time that the Kennedy administration began building up a large US military presence in the region as a deterrent against North Vietnamese invasion. "
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml


Rows of F-102 fighters stationed at Tan Son Nhut in Vietnam in 1969

 

After reading many posts and opinions, I must ask why so many of those who are anti war, and have rallied and demonstrated against wars , are so outspoken about someone who chose not to fight?
Wouldn't the same people have applauded draft dodgers years ago?
I am also not sure why that makes someone less of a patriot, since so many who spoke out against esp the Bush wars wanted to be known as patriots, when so many Bush supporters said they are not?

 

Besides the anti-war stance, Yukon is 100% wrong. [as always] Perry was a USAF pilot during the Vietnam war. Perry had no choice as to where his unit was assigned. It was assigned overseas, but in Europe. For Yukon to be correct, something we have yet to see, Perry would have had to pull some strings if his unit had been reassigned to Vietnam. It was not, Perry did not.
And I'm not a Perry fan, but am very anti-baloney nonsense, ideological, and illogical, posts

 

It is the privilaged way. Dodging is standard operating procedure for conservatives who are privialged. it is the way of conservativism. It's all aobut self, self serving, and independent self, as they interpret the consititution to be. The only conflict they will serve is kissing up to wealthy for survival. Privialged people live in a safe, secure, strucutred easy life with no worries when they have connections that can take care of their problems. Plus, with wealth (I mean real wealth not the wanna be conservative who lives in a trailer), they can pay their way through school with sub par intelligence, get favors from family friends, and cover up their failures. Think George Bush (AWOL Deserter) Why would a rich privialged kid serve the USA, it is not in there interest, the USA is there for the wealthy and privilaged to take advantag of (in there minds). That is the way they think now and has been the way privilaged behaved throughout history. So what makes this one any different.

The only real evidence of anyone serving, in wars long ago, IMO is when a real friend comes back from a war and says he served with someone, then I'll believe that the person served. Sure it is heresay, but the source is solid. I don't trust any propaganda broadcast media when it comes to things like this.

 

I didn't bother reading all of the responses to your ridiculous post, so excuse me if I repeat some of the responses here.

But both Perry and Bush served while Clinton refused to serve (even writing a letter telling of his conciencious objection to war), and of course obama is this feckless ivy league leftist who makes various comments degrading gun owners of middle America. Oh, and did I mention he never served in our military?

 

I was drafted in early 1966. To my physical, I had brought X-Rays and a letter from my family Dr. that I should not be drafted due to a serious back condition. They took me anyway, and I served honorably.

Howard Dean also took X-Rays and a letter re his back a couple of years later, and he was excused from service. The difference was his family had influence and money, and mine did not. By the way, Dean is a dimocrat.