Peskov spoke about a possible stopping gas supplies if Europe refuses to pay in rubles.

So maybe there are more than 7?

 

Russians are experts at suffering. They can hold out way longer than effete Americans. At least they will be warm and well fed.

 

Good thing then that Europe and Ukraine are the main ones doing the direct pounding then

Russians are experts at suffering though, between the constant desire to be ruled by a dictator and their political ideologies maybe they deserve it.

 

It's easy to know at which end of the moral spectrum our anti Russian posters are at, simply by reading their posts and relating them to the more humane posts of those who oppose our government's criminality.

It's a pity that our nation, which was conceived by our brilliant and highly devout Founding Fathers, could have fallen so far from its Christian principles and to such a depth of neo pagan depravity, that the only thing they deem important, is the covering up of crimes and not the condemnation of crimes. Pity us, because our future looks very dim.



Come on now,
get real.

We're sociopaths
we lie and steal

and flip and spin.
It's how you win man.

- Jeannette

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And the Catholics gave indulgences for any sin if you went to slaughter people because the Pope said so, and the Pope declared themselves infallible so you know he's right.
Simply because a priest makes a claim, does not equate to the text supporting that interpretation. I asked for chapter and verse and you cited a passage exhorting people to act like Christ and offer no violence when being oppressed. Temporal victory is not the point of Christ's teachings, period.
You, an outright heretic according to the Bible, speak of making pagan sacrifice in the same breath you claim the teachings of Christ support nationalist land grabs as a holy crusade.

That's really quite precious, but my people come from Western Europe which was civil quite a bit after people stopped swinging from trees.

 

I pointing out that the idea advanced by comrade propagandist DOI is as heretical and unsupported in the text as the catholic crusades and/or their practice of selling indulgences.

See that heretic? You're acting just like them. < Is the essential boiling down of my point into a nice easy to understand colloquial exchange.

 

Orthodox Christianity certainly considers Christ an authority, and the passage you cite likewise cites Christ as an absolute authority.

You openly admit to heresy.

 

Then why do you cite Orthodox Christian saints interpretations of a Bible passage citing Christ as an authority to say that your nationalist land grab war's casualties will be in heaven?

 

He's not German. His ancestors probably suffered genocide and if they knew his indifference towards the lives of others, they'd probably be turning in their graves.

Germany is having secret talks about payments in rubles, otherwise its industries would die. There is no way they can afford to pay 3 times as much for gas from the US.

There's a restoration of the Bric nations going on, which consists of China, Russia, India, S. Africa and Brazil. At the meetings in China, there were also Qatar, Indonesia, Iran, and quite a few other nations. Only the Anglosphere, Japan and EU support the sanctions. The other nations do not give a damn about them and Washington's neo liberal impositions on the world.

You're forgetting we killed Saddam and Ghadaffy for trying to go off the American petro dollar since it would mean our death. We have over 30 trillion in debt without any resources to back them. Russia in turn has over 70 trillion in resources and very little debt.

Today Moscow is conducting more and more trade in local currencies, and now that they're ousted from SWIFT, the nations trading outside the dollar with Moscow are increasing dramatically. In addition Saudi Arabia is conducting its trade with China in Yuan.

We're dying, face up to it. Russia is killing us and we have only ourselves and our criminality to blame.

 

I don't believe in Christ, Mohammed, Buddha...etc. But this does not mean that all Russians do not believe in their religion. So what?
By the way, if I do not believe, for example, in Christ, but I read holy books, you, as apparently a believer, should, on the contrary, express encouragement for my interest in these books. But you are outraged that I quote scripture. This is not Christian. Have you heard of such a thing as "Messianism"?

 

You don't believe, yet you say that russians will go to heaven for fighting for russia. < These statements do not compute.
I guess what I'm pointing out is that your statement and the person you're quoting, are incredibly and demonstrably incorrect on what that passage of the Bible means. You don't go to heaven for fighting and dying in a war.

If you read holy books, or any books, I'll encourage that. That would not bar me from pointing out when you're wildly incorrect in interpretation, or from labeling your wildly incorrect interpretation which leads to social ills as what it is: heresy.

You're quoting a book of the Bible dear, its definitely Christian.

 

The land grab is not by Russia, although that's what our Orwellian media wants you to believe.

The land grab is by the Western Ukrainian 'Banderite' Nazis who killed off the Poles in WWII to grab the land they live on, and want the rich lands of the Donbass but without its inhabitants. This is why Kiev always attacked the civilians in Donetsk. They know that as long as the indigenous people are living in the Donbass, they cannot remain in power. Yet they're not willing to give up the land and wealth of the Donbass. So what's the alternative? Ethnic cleansing and genocide.

This is why Kiev has always attacked the civilian populations. It continues even today, but the media won't mention it. Washington has been and continues to be indifferent to the ongoing genocide, since it benefits them in their quest to destroy Russia for following an independent policy.

Not only has Washington been indifferent, but they have even supplied them with heavy armaments to facilitate the genocide and ethnic cleansing - which is reminiscent of Syria, where Christians were being killed on an average of 300 a day by ISIS, yet not a mention of it in the media.

Today I read an example of the media's creative flipping that made me sick to my stomach. The MSM boldly stated that Ukraine can't get into Mariupol to help the people, when the people themselves are cursing and damning Zalensky and Ukraine for what they have suffered and gone through for 8 years.

Especially though in these past week when they were living in the basements without food and water, and couldn't leave out of fear of being shot by Azov if they went out.

Thanks to Kadyrov and the brave Chechens who volunteered to do the urban fighting and seek out the Nazis. Russia and the DPR is now supplying them with food, water, medical assistance and all their necessities.

Here's some videos. It's time the American people took their heads out of the sand and faced reality.






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no because your useless fuking military and their useless bloody officer corp is retreating from Ukraine faster than a spring tide......The Ukrainians have banjaxed your crappy wee tanks and BTRs and shoved your special operation right back up Putin's rectum.

Haven't your Greek sites let you know that your wee bitty Russian country is now fukced...anyway...you carry on wit your verbal masturbation...you have fun with the crap that your Kremlin gives you to post here...



What's your wee Putin fella going to do with the guys left behind North West of Kyiv.The Ukraine now control this with all the Russians left on the NW side of Kyiv being trapped in a pocket with the Ukrainians surrounding them. There're no permanent bridges over the Teteriv river between Ivankiv and the Dnieper river.....oooops!!! So what do you think hostages for the peace talks....or should the Ukrainians do what the Russians do to civilians that surrender...you know when they get out of their cars and put their hands in the air...whilst their kids look on.....hmmmm what to do......hmmmmm....slot the motherfukers or let them live ....hmmmm

 

...what!!?? You mean they read your posts!!! Wow...anyway no need to be sick ...they're rather funny....

 

Spare me, the Russian Federation IE your current nation, hasn't owned that land in its entire life in being. They didn't steal anything from you.
You yahoos crossed a national border in 2014 and have been occupying it ever since. You're occupying more territory now.

That's what's colloquially known as a 'landgrab'.

 

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From what I can see .. from this post at least the one that is engaging in BS is you.. Ad Hom Fallacyland central .. claiming Jen is a "Russian Operative" ?! thats humourous but also a ridiculously bad argument .. so what if she was a "Russian Operative" .. as your fantasies are wont to portray .. all the more reason to defeat what ever message is put forth ..

Massive Russian Strawman and demonize the messenger fallacy doesn't cut it

 

When Vladimir Putin said that the Russians will go to heaven, he was joking. It's like the time he said that it's not his job to judge the terrorists. His job is to send them there. If a person can kill someone, then they can't be in a state of grace to achieve unity with God. In the Orthodox Church if you killed someone fighting, you can't receive communion for 2 years.

This doesn't mean though a person shouldn't serve to protect their country. Patriotism and a love of ones homeland is a virtue in contrast to nationalism which is prideful and therefore the antithesis of Christianity where humility is a perquisite.

Serving in the military though doesn't necessarily mean picking up a gun because someone in a high state of Grace cannot kill - nor do I believe God would allow them to be in a situation where they would kill. Saint Joan of Arc led the men to free France and end the 100 years war, but she herself never held a weapon.

If a soldier does fight and does kill, then repentance before they die is important, so that their mind and soul would be in the right state of grace to enable them to unite with God.

As for Russia, I personally feel they have a mandate to hold back the neo liberal one world order we are imposing on the world and is a precursor to a one world government and the Antichrist. I always felt that the New Military Cathedral of Christ's Resurrection, was to instill in the men a love of Russia and to raise the morale and spirit of the Russian soldiers for what they would have to face and endure in the coming years.

Just my opinion.

 

Russia lost 30 million people during WW2 so what's a few thousand dead in this war?

 

I think the One World Government began to take shape after 911 when the 2 World Trade Center buildings came down and a nice new One World Trade building was erected. Fortunately for most of us sinners there is only one Unpardonable Sin and killing folks isn't it.

 

If I recall correctly, the land grab was not the Russians, but those who joined the Nazis in WWII and killed off the Poles.

Look, since the Western Ukrainians hate the Soviet Union and want to wipe out all references to it, then they should be happy that Vladimir Putin is willing to accommodate them and remove the lands given to them by Lenin.

Now if only Poland, Hungary and Romania could service them as well and take away what was given by Stalin, then the Soviet Union with all its bad memories, will be gone forever and the Galicians will finally have peace.

 

Once again, I don't believe in Christ. But I believe that the Russians will go to heaven. What's wrong with that?

 

Which version of "heaven" do you believe in? And what makes your fellow Russians so special that they get an express pass into it?

 

Bingo! You pointed to very important difference between Russia and the West. Nobody is worrying about Russians. There is a long tradition of Russian elites not to worry about Russian people. Tzar didn't worry about Russian people, Communists didn't worry about Russian people and Putin don't worry about Russian people. Russian elites worry only about themselves.
Why the Western elites worry about people? Because in the West we have elections and we can remove elites from power. In Russia is different, elites can poison or jail opposition, so nothing to worry if the standard of living in Russia is lower than in Romania or Portugal:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

Putin worry only about himself, but there is noting to worry about Putin, he is doing OK:

 

For what purpose are you asking?