PETER HITCHENS: Wear a mask if you want - but understand it's about fear and control, NOT health...

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  1. InWalkedBud

    InWalkedBud Well-Known Member

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    PETER HITCHENS: Wear a mask if you want - but understand it's about fear and control, NOT health... the clamour for their return is a triumph of unreason and a blow to science

    Quote of the day:

    In the end, there was no statistically significant difference between those who wore masks and those who did not when it came to being infected by Covid-19; 1.8 per cent of those wearing masks caught Covid, compared to 2.1 per cent of the control group.

    Never again. Ditto for the shapeshifting "vaccines." A "vaccine" that was never a "vaccine" until the CDC changed its definition of "vaccine."
     
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    Oh Dear God! You're still spreading false information?

    Masks SLIGHTLY reduce the chances of catching Covid by the wearer. We have known this since the beginning. BUT... masks are not INTENDED to protect the person who wears them. The reason masks are recommended is to protect people around them!!!! PLUS, they ARE more effective preventing many types of flu and other respiratory diseases. Which combined with Covid can lead to death.

    And then you go on to your vaccine nonsense! Please post your disinformation garbage in the proper conspiracy forum.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Don't you hate it when that happens just because you spread false information that leads to more people dying?

    Your contribution to making the problem worse is duly noted...
     
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    If it's about fear and control does that mean my doctors office that requires a mask is only doing so to control me and the staff? Seems an odd thing for the office to be concerned with. Meh...
     
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    Yes, and the doctor himself wears a mask because he is also being controlled by someone.....anyone......DEMOCRATS.......BIDEN......CLINTON......TWITTER......GLOBALISTS......CHINA
     
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    beating a dead horse
     
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    Strike 1.
     
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    Maybe the doctor is into control himself also. Now we're on to something.
     
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    Technology may change, but it is still a vaccine. That being said, wearing a mask shows how the mask can mitigate the spread of a virus. But it also shows the cultural difference. In Asia, for instance, wearing masks is a norm if you feel ill, such as having sniffles or a cough for instance. This is especially true in the Phillippines, Taiwan, China, Thailand, and Japan. No government mandates but societal norms. Maybe you should travel more outside the county you live in. Just a thought.

    You do realize in the quote the control group were the ones NOT wearing the mask. And that is irrespective if the vaccine was given or not.
     
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    Odd that I'm sitting in the hospital right now and have seen some nurses wearing a mask and others not. It must be an option for them, but not for any visitors. Very odd.
     
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    Medical liability, professional organizations requirements, following the CDC, etc. No one likes to be around a sick person. And I have seen mask requirements for certain physician offices when it was high in the flu season, normally by doctors who are seeing immunosuppressed patients such as cancer patients and those with CKD.
     
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    Its the mark of the slave, so when you see a nurse wearing one, you know he/she is being 'controlled' by someone.
     
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    Welcome to the mess MAGA-courts and a MAGA Supreme Court have left behind.
     
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    Indeed, well said.

    Surgeons don’t wear masks to protect themselves, they wear them to protect the patient from germs they might spew into an open gaping wound during surgery. I wonder how many of the people who refuse to wear masks would tell their surgeon not to bother to wear one during surgery based on some asinine reason unrelated to health. Masks are effective which is why they are used in health care settings to protect vulnerable people.
     
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    I'm sure the masks would be slapped on if a supervisor came around.
     
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    No your doctor's office is doing what they were told to.
     
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    So nothing to do with fear and control as per the claim in the OP
     
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    Present your proof
     
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    Next time you are going into surgery, tell your surgeon that you don't need them to wear a mask, since you don't want to control them. Are you game?
     
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    It probably on the door of your doctor's office
     
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    In fairness, a surgeon wears a mask because they are trying to protect the patient from respiratory secretions or saliva because the surgeon is leaning directly over a wide open incision with maybe 12-18 inches between them, in addition to protecting the surgeon from ingesting bodily fluids that could and often does come from the open incision.

    That's not exactly analogous to wearing a mask in public.
     
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    Nope, but the OP and those that think like the OP want to use fear and control to achieve a specific political agenda though that is not based on science or anything else logical or rationale.
     
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    If so, then I suggest you find a better hospital ASAP. If they ignore / disrespect hospital policy with such small things, they'll do it with bigger things too.
     
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    Are you really sitting in the hospital though? Are masks mandated in the hospital for the staff? Do you know if any of these nurses are exposing themselves to vulnerable patients? Do they test themselves for covid? Visitors should wear masks so not to expose other vulnerable patients to covid/flu/respiratory infections as well as exposing the staff. Odd that you are making statements without providing any details of the situation. Are these maskless nurses in contact with patients or just walking around? Should visitors be allowed in hospitals where vulnerable sick people are present just to inadvertently infect them. It’s not about fear and control, it’s about protecting the vulnerable.
     
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