Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    IOW, Trust Joe Biden and the DP. ;-)

    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Biden, Seizing on Worries of a Rushed Vaccine, Warns Trump Can’t Be Trusted, ‘Scientific Breakthroughs Don’t Care About Calendars,’ Biden Says, The Democratic presidential nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr., expressed concern that President Trump was trying to rush coronavirus vaccine approval for political gain., By Sydney Ember, Sept. 16, 2020.
     
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    IOW, Trust Joe Biden and the DP - or else. ;-)
     
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    Being wrong early on is not misinformation. Saying people are not magnets is, just for example.
     
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    Not for treating COVID-19...

    In fact, Ivermectin is only approved for treating Donald Trumps...

    Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA
    See? I kid. But the bottom line is they ARE FDA approved, but not for COVID 19 so your claim is irrelevant to the topic. Hydoxychloroquine is FDA approved to treat or prevent malaria. Again, malaria is NOT COVID 19.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Then why do you assume that’s what they’re talking about? I’m assuming it’s only blatant misinformation that they’re referencing
     
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    Gdawg007 Well-Known Member

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    No, in other words believing misinformation can result in winning a Darwin award. Science is proven by process. Your beliefs are proven by nothing.
     
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    Already addressed this. Trusting Donald Trump is a stupid thing to do. Trusting validated vaccine trials that are heavily regulated and supported by data and science is a smart thing to do.
     
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    Yep, that's a correct statement. Do you perform your own surgeries? Do you fly your own jet liners? I don't. I put trust in experts because they will have better outcomes than trusting non-experts who don't know anything about things they talk about. Why would you put your trust in people who aren't experts in their field?
     
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    Which were cut short and no long term testing will ever be completed.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you trust doctors but not what they say. Fascinating.
     
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    Fauci is the biggest spreader of bogus info imaginable. First we'd never need masks, now we need space suits. When does his license get yanked?
     
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    Long term testing? You don't know how vaccines work, do you? They don't have long term effects. They don't stay in the human body very long at all. Your immune system destroys the remaining foreign material or it passes via the normal routes. Vaccines are not drugs.
     
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    I trust doctors when they base their opinions on data and valid conclusions form that data. If a doctor goes off the deep end and says something stupid, then no, I don't. But you aren't doing that. You're picking the crazy opinions that support your political ideology. And now are trying to justify it as truth, then get hurt when you are corrected. There's a word for that, I think you guys coined it...
     
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    No, he's simply not. He's not a God amongst men either, but your guy lies WAY more than Fauci. Should I go over the greatest hits?
     
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    2015 Study on imperfect Vaccinations and the potential harmful effects. Do you think that our current vaccinations are considered "leaky" considering that now vaccinated people are transmitting the virus? Is this mere junk science in your view and doctors should lose their ability to practice for presenting this information or does it warrant discussion?

    Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens
    Abstract
    Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek's disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts.
     
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    Spoken by a person who only wears blue colored glasses. The left spread misinformation like crazy, burying any and every bad story they can.
     
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    The left actively bury any and all bad news they can and preach that the breakthrough cases are only about 1-2 percent when, in reality, more and more facts are coming out that breakthrough infections are in the 40-60 percent area. Hell, even Biden refused to even give the number of breakthrough cases in his office and Pelosi's office, saying the public doesn't really need to know that.
     
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    The left are constantly spreading misinformation, even today. It's not a question of evolving science. The left do everything they can to bury any bad stories and anything that would make them look bad. When asked about the number of break through cases in the Biden administration and Pelosi's office, we are told that the public doesn't need that information.
     
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    The numbers are readily available. No one is hiding anything.

    COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

    7500 breakthrough cases resulted in hospitalization or death. That's out of 164 million vaccinated. So about .004% are suffering consequences of COVID post vaccine. That's the very definition of effectiveness.

    If you get COVID after being vaccinated and have NO symptoms, then the vaccine worked. You get infected with viruses often, most of the time, your body fights them off. That's called being healthy.
     
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    Breakthrough cases are in the 40%-60% range but the left don't want to talk about that. They are deniers. They gloss over that and cherry pick hospitalization and death figures, but sweep the 40%-60% actual breakthrough cases under the table as if they didn't exist. And when Paski is asked about the number of breakthrough cases in the Biden administration and Pelosi's office we are told that the public doesn't need to know that. More sweeping under the rug. More deliberate misinformation. And when Greene tells the truth about breakthrough cases, she is suspended from Twitter.
     
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    That isn’t misinformation, and Pelosi isn’t a doctor
     
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    Prove it. Prove that claim with data. Not a tweet from a moron, but data. You don't have any, that's right.

    Oh and Marjorie Taylor Greene has never told the truth. Ask her ex-husband. Plus, twitter has it's own policies. You have no right to use twitter to say what you want. Sorry you think that, not sure why you think that.
     
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    I would welcome them pulling licenses and the discovery found in the lawsuits. I would hate it for the DRs originally but saying the science is absolute is rather comical and would bankrupt those who pulled the licenses giving the DRs a way early retirement. The most important thing is would finally get the real info without media bias. My opinion is no way it happens can you imagine all the crazy stuff that would come from an agency saying they know today what happens tomorrow and the evidence of that line of thinking being a colossal failure over our history..
     
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    These are not vaccines but experimental biologics.
     
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    A very good point, CC.
     
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