Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    "Don't like"?

    What the heck does THAT mean in the context of science based medicine.

    And, based on this post of yours:
    Are you claiming that science based medicine is PARTISAN??
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Link?
    On second thought don’t bother - what I would like to see though is your research evidence showing either of those medications have a definitive role in treatment of Covid

    https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full

    You do realise don’t you that until the research is actually finalised on both of these drugs they would be classified as experimental
     
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    I love how they are defending someone with a medical degree who would NOT be using evidence based practice (cough cough Rand Paul)
     
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    And yet here you are ignoring science...

    Here you go again.... and let me know if you would like some more peer-reviewed research papers.
    Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
    Effects of Ivermectin-azithromycin-cholecalciferol combined therapy on COVID-19 infected patients: A proof of concept study
    Evaluation of Ivermectin as a Potential Treatment for Mild to Moderate COVID-19: A Double-Blind Randomized Placebo Controlled Trial in Eastern India
    A five-day course of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 may reduce the duration of illness

     
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    Just like the vaccines.

    BTW, the only study that used clinically 'suggested' doses of Hydroxychloroquine (only) showed a 30% improvement in outcomes. Hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc and vitamin D show even greater results. Same with Ivermectin.

     
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    Reality decides what is truth, not people
     
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    The thing is, right now the medical community is putting all its eggs in the basket of vaccination. With these vaccines, aside from adverse reactions, we are seeing a large number of breakthrough infections. Regardless of how sick a vaccinated person becomes or not, the virus is still circulating and still mutating. This will be so even with a near 100% rate (see Iceland).

    It is obvious that we need not only better treatments, but a preventative if possible. Remember, much of the rest of the world doesn't have broad access to vaccines, no matter the efficacy. If that isn't addressed, we will constantly be seeing new variants of this virus, which puts everybody at risk.

    Quashing info by threat of medical practitioners losing their licenses is a short-sighted losing proposition. Ivermectin seems to be a strong candidate. Its safety is well known. Given that we are on the verge of more shutdowns that we simply can't afford, it leaves one to wonder about the motivation of people here in the US and that keep this info suppressed.
     
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  8. Bearack

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    And at one time, reality was Bleedimg was an effective treatment to Disentery.
     
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    Pretty amazing, eh?

    Are you going to then suggest this as a reason to ignore the science based medicine of today?

    Or, ???
     
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    Absolutely not. Data collection and evaluation of data is what made physicians realize that Bleeding for disentary was a bad idea. Hense why I love data.
     
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    Are you suggesting that, regarding covid, that the narrow orthodoxy of vaccination or nothing is the only option we should have or even be able to discuss?
     
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    Reality is perception, Thats why you want it as the governing mandate to control opinions.
     
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    Nobody cares about your opinion, we care ir doctors are making demonstrably false claims
     
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    I am claiming the leftist media and its politicians are not the self proclaimed arbiters of science or truth.
    They are just what they are. Megaphones for an agenda. nothing more.
     
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    Says the party who wants to sensor opinions

    So those without medical degrees can sensor those with medical degrees.
    How about this. Why is it so important to you that everyone thinks like you do?
    How about you keep your nose out of other peoples business and let them think for themselves.
    Nobody appointed you or the left the final word on anything.
     
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    Can you elaborate on these demonstrably false claims so we can maybe focus on those since I'm fairly sure your are not referring to the peer-reciewed studies proving efficacy of alternative treatments?

    That we we can talks specifically to those doctors you disagree with.
     
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    Like saying that men can have vaginas? Like signing a document that proclaimed that white supremacy is a greater threat to the black community than Covid so minorities should get into the streets and protest? I wonder how many black lives that little piece of medical advice cost. Where are you going with this?
     
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    No you’re right I’m not. I’m talking about microchips and magnetism.
     
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    Remember when republicans said masks dont work, and that Covid was just the common cold ?

    What they are saying here is that unless a physician has scientific proof, they cannot make claims that are not true. You cannot go around saying "vaccines cause cancer" without verifiable proof. We do not live in a word where you can say anything you want, like "masks dont work" without repercussion when/if those words harm someone.

    This isnt about "alternate science", its about lies.
     
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    I'm in favor of information. And I'm not in favor of putting my full trust in a potentially corruptible entity.

    It's very Communist Russia to consider these powerful entities information gods and incorruptible.

    I dunno....I think I will stick to being American and using my own commensense and research skills when deciminating thru information.
     
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  21. Bearack

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    It was Fauci that claimed masked did not work. It was reaffirmed in his FIA emails where literally stated that mask, not N95, were ineffective.

    You're barking up the wrong tree.

     
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    Does that include the lefts beloved Fauci who claimed mask don't work against Covid
    Does that include the manufactures of these paper mask that claim they do not protect you from Covid right on the box
    Does that include Fauci telling us that Covid is not transmissible between humans
    Does that include the left claiming Hydroxy and Zinc don't work
    Does that include Biden when he claimed if you get the vaccine, you can't get Covid
    Does that include once we reach herd immunity we can all go back to normal lives
    Does that include the amount of falsified death certificates claiming they died from Covid

    You got that part right. Coming from the same party who fake stories and deaths at the capital, who got caught falsifying claims in two impeachments, and ran a fake Russia Russia Russia scam for 4 years, And they have decided they will be the arbiters of truth?
    Thanks for the good belly laugh
     
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    Control opinions? Do you hear yourself?

    Zero parts of government are supposed to control opinions in the US.

    I'd love to hear what your perception (opinion) of the press's role in society is. Certain to be comedy gold!
     
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    I guess we need a short tutorial. The first amendment applies to government, not to me, you or anything in the private sector. Government cannot interfere with free speech, the rest of civilization can. Also it is important to understand that speech can have consequences whether free or not. So yes, the mechanic can lie to me but he could face consequences for doing so.
     
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    That was my point. How did you miss it?
     
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