Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Malpractice laws would disagree with you.
     
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    For ideologues, "scientism" usually trumps legitimate science when it comes to modern politics.

    "Scientism" in politics still presupposes that human
    welfare is its object, a concept which is utterly alien to totalitarianism. 10

    It is precisely because the utilitarian core of ideologies was taken for
    granted that the anti-utilitarian behavior of totalitarian governments, their
    complete indifference to mass interest, has been such a shock. This introduced
    into contemporary politics an element of unheard-of unpredictability.
    Totalitarian propaganda, however — although in the form of shifted emphasis
    — indicated even before totalitarianism could seize power how far the
    masses had drifted from mere concern with interest."
    THE ORIGINS OF TOTALITARIANISM, Totalitarianism in Power, By Hannah Arendt, Meridian Books,New York, 1958. p. 348.
     
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    Prophylactic Role of Ivermectin in Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 Infection Among Healthcare Workers (peer reviewed)

    https://www.cureus.com/articles/648...onavirus-2-infection-among-healthcare-workers
     
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    I already gave you the source.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-no-longer-taking-hydroxychloroquine-n1214301

    In fact, Trump was given HCQ by his doctors for two weeks which probably explains his quick recovery from C19.
    Consistent with Raoult's finding that the early use of HCQ was very effective.


    "Professor William Ngatchou is a cardiovascular surgeon at the General Hospital in Douala, the economic capital of Cameroon. When FRANCE 24 asked him if he had heard of Professor Raoult, he responded with amusement: “Everyone knows Professor Raoult in Cameroon! Some even consider him like a national hero.” Like many health professionals in the country, Ngatchou thinks that the effectiveness of dual therapy combining an antimalarial and an antibiotic has been proven: “It’s been almost two months that this protocol has been in use for patients with Covid-19. I myself have noticed significant improvements in patients with its use, and the debate about the side effects of chloroquine seems very exaggerated to me.”
    FRANCE 24, Covid-19: In Cameroon, chloroquine therapy hailed by French expert becomes state protocol, By David RICH, 03/05/2020.
    https://www.france24.com/en/2020050...ailed-by-french-expert-becomes-state-protocol
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is success with Hydroxychlorquine used alone.

     
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    So only you and the left get to decide whos opinions are misinformation. Got it
     
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    Always remember: “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

    Fauci is way too equal to be punished for anything. ;-)

    "He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE. He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”
    THE HILL, Fauci: why the public wasn't told to wear masks when the coronavirus pandemic began, The infectious disease expert also discussed why they are necessary., By Alexandra Kelley | June 16, 2020.
    https://thehill.com/changing-americ...fauci-why-the-public-wasnt-told-to-wear-masks
     
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    Fauci lied. Was that okay?
     
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    You do realize that a a large percentage of clinical trials are investigator initiated trials. That is the doctors building their own protocols for treatment, getting them IRB reviewed and hopefully published. The doctors "in the field" are absolutely relied upon to determine effective treatments. What you stated is absolutely false! They are immersed in the science and using their education and self experiences to provide patients with the best possible chance. It's when politics gets involved that in essence stops real investigation of treatment and starts using junk science as their method to treat patients. That is the real tragedy as SO many lives could have been saved but pseudo science and lack of properly treating people.
     
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    So even with that he still got sick and needed experimental treatment?
     
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    No reality is what decides. If you think docs should be telling people they’ll turn into a magnet, I’d love to hear why.
     
  13. Bearack

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    "Disproven by hundreds" seems to be code word for several hundred clinical trials, many of them peer reviewed, showing the efficacy of the extremely low cost. And the FDA's stance to why they won't approve Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID has been blown out of the water. Their excuse is that it's not an anti-viral drug, but an anti-parasitic drug. However, trials have proven that this anti-parasitic drug shield the spike protien, preventing it to bind to the cell wall which then prevents it from replicating, stopping the virus dead in it's tracks.

    Now you can come to a thread, arbitrarily make a claim that is has been disproved with nothing other than a statement.. Or you or you can disprove the 100's of active clinical trials that have amazing results. Or do you just want to getting your talking points from CNN or MSNBC. That morning Joe.... He sure is a great epidemiologist!

    Here, why don't you start with this one Publish this last April.

    Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
    Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
     
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    Using extremely ridiculous exaggerations doesn't fortify your position. It just belittles it
     
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    Because the FDA does not approve it for COVID treatment does not discount the fact that several 100 trials have PROVEN that it's efficacy works and kills the virus dead in it's tracks. Just read the clinical trials and quit being spoon fed your talking points!
     
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    Ridiculous? Are you denying people make that claim??
     
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    If it worked then why did trump get sick and require a different experimental treatment???
     
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    Well misinformation equated to truths within the DNC, so I se how this might be confusing for the indoctrinated :(
     
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    He never took ivermectin. He took Hydroxychloroquine and was diagnosed with COVID, and then White House physician gave him Regenoron. It's my understanding it worked quite well. Don't you remember when you all eviscerated him for leaving Walter Reid to drive around? He was back in action in what, 10 days?

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    Donald Trump, a high risk elderly obese male recovered form C19 very fast.

    Has anyone claimed that HCQ prevents infection?
     
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    Oh, Now its people?
    Just a few minutes ago it was just you.
    You want to be able to decide who should have the medical license pulled if you don't like what they say or they give an opinion you don't like.
    When confronted you provide some ridiculous statement and when challenged, now its what others are saying.

    Who made you and the left the arbiters of truth?
     
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    Sorry but science is science and if there is a massive amount of evidence one side and some idiot fantasy the other you do expect the person trained in science to stick to the science.
     
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    YOU are the guy who thinks that 4.5 BILLION vaccines is not an adequate test sample for vaccines.

    NOW, you claim that this one guy has the answer that should be propagated to all patients???

    There is only ONE thing you are proving.

    And, it is about YOU not medicine.
     
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    Are you suggesting this proves something about COVID treatment???

    Or, are you just happy for Trump?
     
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    You appear to think mass inoculation without a control group is a controlled clinical trial. You also claim you believe studies except when they counter your specific bias.
     
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