Physicians who post COVID-19 vaccine misinformation may lose license, medical panel says

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  1. fmw

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    True. The paper and cloth masks people use are useless against any virus. Virtually any doctor will tell you this. At least any private sector doctor will.

    They don't provide protection from infecting others either.

    This was a comment he made early on without any data to support it. l He took China's word for it. It was disreputable to do that.

    There isn't any scientific data that says it does work - or doesn't work for that matter. No science available. Somebody should do a clinical trial.

    A reasonable statement at the time. The vaccines were proving to be 99+% effective. But it is no longer true because a vaccine resistant strain called delta has replaced the original virus.

    Government will never let you go back to normal. It is drunk on power and control. It isn't likely that we will destroy the virus. It will become a seasonal super flu according to most doctors. So you can forget herd immunity. It doesn't matter. We will see new variants every season.

    Falsified is too strong a word. It would be better to say some death certificates that gave covid as a cause of death perhaps should have said the patient died from something while testing positive for covid. I think most of them did.
     
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    Just like the vaccines.

    BTW, the only study that used clinically 'suggested' doses of Hydroxychloroquine (only) showed a 30% improvement in outcomes. Hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc and vitamin D show even greater results. Same with Ivermectin.


    You have a lot wrong in your post. According to Israel the Pfizer vaccine degrades significantly after 4 months against the alpha variant. The best study about Hydroxychloroquine comes out of Belgium during their peak that shows a 30% increase in reduction of hospitalization and that is without the addition of zinc and vitamin D.
     
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    There hasn't been a single clinical trial. It may work and it may do what "belgium" says but those are experiments, not clinical trials. I stand by what I wrote.
     
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    Well that shoots down these experimental treatments since clinical trials were cut short.
     
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    A couple of things
    The Review that you linked to is from this past April. No one is suppressing information about something that was just found to work....in some cases.
    HQC has been proven to be ineffective
    Get the shot.
     
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    Untrue.
     
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    No.

    In fact, science based medicine has a LOT to say about COVID, methods of protection, safethe and efficacy of vaccines, care of those hospitalized, etc.

    Those with "narrow orthodoxy" are those who assault vaccination regardless of the absolutely astounding success that ALL data driven analysis has demonstrated so clearly.
     
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    So does that mean claiming it’s safe with absolutely no long term safety data will result in termination of their licenses?
     
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    the only issue I have with this, is it's a slippery slope, the government dietary recommendations are wrong imo, so if a doctor recommends a diabetic eat low carb, does he lose his license as it's not the government recommendations, this has been done to doctors, so these kinda laws do scare me

    if we can prove a doctor is trying on purpose to harm people with misinformation, that is one thing, but giving misinformation they believe in is another

    that said, I got the vaccine and would recommend others do as well, but I am pro-choice, so each has to decide for themselves
     
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    ??
    Nobody has claimed the media or politicians are the experts on science.

    You make all sorts of claims about "agenda".

    But that's absolutely proven to be nonsense by the FACT that you have NO CLUE what such an agenda could possibly be.

    Do you really think the CDC is trying to poison Americans?

    Do you really think your hospital is there to kill people who make the wrong decision on vaccines?
     
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    Well for me, I have seen what the agenda is for the last 5 years. Are you trying to convince me that the left has no agenda when they have been politicising a virus with a 99.8% survival rate as the apocalypse of our time? Give me a break. You can pretend to have those blinders on all you want but you ain't sellin it here.

    As soon as you can provide me with any quote I made claiming the CDC is trying to poison Americans or hospitals are their to kill people I will answer the question. Until then you will just have to reminisce in your own perceptions.
     
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    WHAT will be the last straw ??

    The previous last straw was a tax on tea.

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    Agreed

    There is plenty of it. Hydroxy isn't the cure for Covid. Never was. Zinc is the Covid killer. All Hydroxy does is make the cell wall permeable to absorb Zinc. Zinc lowers the PH in the cell which kills the intruding virus during its replication process.

    This Vaccine has never been 99% effective since day one.

    I agree. This virus has a 99.8% recovery rate and at some time everyone on the planet will have been infected and there is nothing anyone can do to prevent it.

    I don't blame the hospitals for claiming Covid as the cause of death. I blame this government for putting a bounty on a virus of 16K per patient then stopping the hospitals from elective surgeries which is the main stay economically.
     
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    You would have to show me a clinical trial. I'm virtually certain there hasn't been one. I'm not fighting the efficacy of this treatment. I'm fighting people calling it proven. Only a clinical trial provides meaningful proof. Also you should understand that a virus isn't an organism. You can't kill it. You can only stop the infected cell from replicating the DNA or RNA of the virus. As far as I can know, that has never been done by anybody or by anything other than the body's immune system.

    It wasn't sold as 99% effective and the clinical trials didn't reach 99% but in fact we achieved 99% before the resistant strain arrived.

    Government hasn't done a single thing right about the virus. It needs to stay out of it. We would do well to ignore everything government says about it and rely on doctors that actually practice medicine.
     
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    Hydroxy and Zinc went into trials in April of 2020.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7202847/
    https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_a_combo_of_chloroquine_and_Zinc_a_cure_for_coronavirus


    Newly Published Outpatient Study Finds that Early Use of Zinc, Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Is Associated with Less Hospitalizations and Death

    Hydroxychloroquine's main function within this treatment approach is to allow zinc to enter the cell. Zinc is the virus killer, and azithromycin prevents secondary bacterial infection in the lungs and reduces the risk of pulmonary complications.


    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ess-hospitalizations-and-death-301094237.html

    Hydroxychloroquine used by Korea for Covid-19 while US is divided
    Trump has repeatedly touted the drug and received significant pushback from the media and the Democratic Party, with the governors of Nevada, Michigan and New York even going so far as to issue executive orders restricting how doctors can use HCQ to treat patients suffering from Covid-19.

    When have you ever heard of Governors restricting doctors from using any treatments in the history of the US? Especially when Korea was having such success.

    Medical treatments have traditionally been a private decision between patients and doctors, but now it seems politicians are usurping their right to choose. According to Dr Jeffrey Singer, a general surgeon and Cato Institute fellow, this threatens the integrity of the medical profession and indirectly imperils patients, by denying them emergency options when no other alternatives are available.

    Moreover, the politicization of treatment options would not help Americans, given the fact countries such as Belgium, France and South Korea have used HCQ to treat Covid-19 with a good degree of success.

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hydroxychloroquine-used-by-korea-for-covid-19-while-us-is-divided/


    You're absolutely right. The government should not be involved. With all the global successes of Hydroxy and Zinc, our government and its left owned media have tried to convince everyone that it never worked and played it down to the point we have governors writing executive orders against it?

    They don't want anything that would help eliminate this virus.
     
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    We can't have a debate, lol. People who challenge the official Gestapo narrative MUST be punished!!

    I'm amazed so many people are against even having the discussions. This is how rights are lost.

    Repeat the official narrative, or we will remove your ability to make a living.
    Gestapo tactics.
     
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    Just more evidence that HCQ is an effective treatment for C19.
    But that inconvenient truth has been obvious from the start.
     
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    Shhh! ;-)
     
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    Its because they love government control because they think it supports their wishes. They don't have much ability to look forward.
    EXAMPLE
    Democrats couldn't get a SCOTUS on the court because they needed 60 votes and they didn't have it. What did they do, change it to 50 like it would only help them.
    What happened? Trump was able to fill SCOTUS positions with less than 60 votes.
    Next move? They want to impeach Kavanaugh.

    Its a never ending cycle. They can't see the forest for the trees. They want governors to mandate mask and punish anyone who decided not to get the vaccine.
    Even when you have leftist utopias like California which are so trashed they are leaving in droves, they will migrate to another state and vote for the very same things.
    They will never get it.
     
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    Who operates the licensing boards in America?
     
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    Don't worry, the next post will be it doesn't exist, never happened, or its a Hannity/Tucker conspiracy.
     
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    Apparently Stalinists.
     
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    Which means what?
     
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    Today Willie Sutton would say "go into Corrupt Political Science, that's where the loot is".

    New York (CNN Business)The imminent authorization of Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine in the United States is a momentous occasion for science, the economy and humanity. The milestone is also a major moneymaker for the companies that developed the vaccines.

    Wall Street analysts are projecting Pfizer and Moderna will generate $32 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue -- next year alone.

    That doesn't take into account the goodwill boost these companies will receive by helping to end the worst pandemic in a century. That boost is magnified for Moderna (MRNA), a young biotech company that few people had heard of before 2020 that could now be on the cusp of getting its own FDA authorization.

    Pfizer (PFE) by itself is projected to haul in $19 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue in 2021, according to Morgan Stanley. That's on top of an estimated $975 million in 2020 vaccine revenue.”
    CNN, Pfizer and Moderna could score $32 billion in Covid-19 vaccine sales -- in 2021 alone, By Matt Egan, CNN Business, Fri December 11, 2020.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/pfizer-vaccine-covid-moderna-revenue/index.html
     

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