Planes, guns, night-vision goggles: The Taliban's new U.S.-made war chest

Kinda gives new meaning to DNC gun control concerns

 

So you think that Trump would have removed all weapons from the Afghan army before withdrawing?

 

Can't say! But I'm absolutely certain Joe-joe brain bleeder did

 

The Taliban aren't drilling holes in Christians with outdated surveillance drones and Mraps in ways they aren't already doing with utes and dji phantoms. Not hearing a lot of alternatives that would have produced some different outcome. It's either stay there and fight them, or leave and let them have the country and the resources available there. By most accounts it sounds like many of the resources we brought in were going right to them the whole time we were there. What percent of the 100B a year was going right into Taliban coffers? None? Doubt it.

https://thediplomat.com/2020/12/fire-from-the-sky-the-afghan-talibans-drones/

 

Yikes, I have to explain that to you, wow

 

So, if a person offers nothing of value, in your little opinion, do they deserve to die in a nuclear blast? What do YOU offer of value that makes you think YOU don't deserve that same fate?

 

Apparently explanation is necessary. Not sure I'm the one at fault though. Again, what way is the Taliban going to use a scan eagle drone to put holes in Christians? How long did we spend unsuccessfully training the Afghan forces to use them? The commercially available equipment is literally idiot proof and just as capable. It's like trying to reverse engineer and unlock a Nokia brick when there's a perfectly cheap unlocked Iphone 12 in your pocket. The other pictures are comical. Ohh No! Now mobile Taliban can protect themselves from their own IEDs! Ohh no! It's a Blackhawk camouflaged as a 50 year old derelict Russian helicopter! Even Rambo is afraid of choppers that are dressed up to look like those! Lookit him hide!



The rest of it is stuff we left in the hands of the Afghans. This was the plan all along. Every admin was following this same plan. We stuck around to train, arm, and support the Afghan military.,

Again, I'm not going to argue with you that the admin failed to have a good withdrawal plan. I'm just not on board with the current argument that leaving behind weapons wasn't the policy through every administration. That was always the plan, and I don't see any other option besides that plan. We either stay there forever, or we leave weapons for someone else to handle it. Option one is a no go. Option two is the only alternative. And it's not like after 20 years we can blame Biden specifically for failing to properly train or motivate the forces we left behind.

 

I dunno, you're the one running the derailment? This far more complicated then you missing the point that the weapons didn't stop the sacking of 70% of the country.. They would have had he same effect on the outcome sitting on the bottom of ocean, melted down in a pit of thermite or blow into oblivion..

 

So you would have disarmed the Afghans before going? That's the better plan? Not a great way to win friends and influence people. Remember when we were arming the Mujahideen against the Russians and then stopped?

I do.

It could certainly be argued that an Afghan army was a bad idea to begin with, but again, not Biden's fault.

 

Yup, history shows they surrender quicker then the French.. In fact, MPO, they just front for the terrorist, soon as they are left to their own they all hug and kiss each other and stockpile all the money and munition we leave and spent there

 

Is that a good reason to stop spending a 100 billion a year continuing to fund that love affair? I think so.

 

Finally we agree. But it's no reason we should have left innocents with their ass's hanging out... It's gonna get pretty ugly there pretty quick and the one that will shoulder the blame and burden is always going to be the the current dart border in the oval office..

 

Are you unaware of private contractors?

 

Biden: I'm coming for your guns!

Us: From my cold dead hands!

Us: Time to leave Afghanistan. Give us back our guns, you Taliban kissing bed wetters!

Afghans: Duh. Okay here you go...

Is that how it plays out, ya think?

 

Damn man! You're seriously all over the place on this subject..

 

On point the whole time.

1. I agree with you, everyone out that wants out before the troops leave.
- There would still be people left claiming to be stuck there. Especially with communication infrastructure & remote locations such as they are. It still would have been much fewer.
2. The weapons were a sunk cost.
- The armor, drones, & aircraft left behind are all useless
- The small arms could not have been taken back.

Bullet Point 1 Biden's fault.
Bullet Point 2 Not Biden's fault.

That's been my case the whole time.

 

As I have already stated, we are in agreement then! Maybe this time it will hold and we are finished now?

 

Frankly, I don't think Biden could have pulled off a successful withdrawal.

How does the Taliban react if Biden locks down Bagram for use as a base of operations to shuttle citizens and refugees out of the country after missing the May 1 deadline and making a new Sept 11 deadline? Any chance Biden has the chops to keep that under control for as long as it would take to get everyone to funnel in from around the country? Don't think so. Probably would have required a fight Biden would not be willing to fight.

 

Lol you have been saying that you would have destroyed the weapons leaving the Afghans unarmed which would have meant that the Taliban would still have just walked in MEANING that you would still have left innocents with their ass's hanging out. You are all over the place in your desperation to blame Biden

 

So Trumps plan was to ensure that the Taliban would overthrow the Afghan government?

 

Nope I have said destroyed or not would have produced the same outcome.. I take it you see things thru the prism of dislike

 

I don't know, he is no longer President, hasn't been since January. I could guess, speculate and stink up the place with bullshit, but that's not me and more of a DNC style feed..

 

So in conclusion the same outcome would have happened whoever out of Trump or Biden were in power

 

You need to start here, at least then I could make some sense of what and where you are coming from

It was a question I addressed LMFAO

 

So you think that the Afghan army would just give up their weapons with not one of them fighting back when being betrayed and left to the mercy of the Taliban?