Planned Parenthood's former president says she was instructed to say 'abortion' in every interview.

Oh, so not the health of the mother?

 

People can read my post and see what I said, so there is not need to ask "are yo suggesting _____________ (<== insert claim)".

There is lot of improvement opportunities in these areas, and it is a proven fact there this is the most effective way to reduce abortions. Why do you oppose it?

 

What can be done to make contraceptives more available?

 

How about if you go jogging and fall and have miscarriage? Should it be manslaughter (=the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder)?

 

Lets consider this your homework. Can you some up with 5 suggestions?

 

No, I don't put that in the same box as drink driving and killing someone on the road.

 

It's YOUR point. It's very easy to just throw out policy proposals without actually saying how they can be achieved.

 

Are you arguing there is nothing whatsoever that can be done to make them more available? I don't want to argue for the sake of arguing, but obviously you do.

Anyone can sit down and come up with ideas on how to make them more available, but your response is "it can't be done".

One of the big reasons why women fail to take their pill is the failure to refill it. Can that be made easier? Automated maybe? You know......ideas. Creativity. We are talking about reducing abortions. Don't you want that? Or maybe you like it the way it is because you like to argue about it.

Drinking and driving is a crime.

I said: How about if you go jogging and fall and have miscarriage? Maybe the mother is risking the baby's life by jogging. Should it be illegal? How far should the society go to control the mothers behavior to ensure the baby makes it out of the womb alive?

 

SO WHAT ?

She can but she doesn't have to.... What TF difference does it make to anything? It doesn't...


Why TF do you think women should do their own medical procedures...that's a Really Wacky Idea...

 

FUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD

 

The laws over here can consider it not a legal person. I do not agree with that statement. Sorry. As time goes on and we come to terms with reality it would be nice to overturn that distinction.

I think you need to come to terms with the reality that about half of the country agrees with me. Which is why various states are trying to limit abortion. As we come to terms with science and the reality of it all...hopefully we can consider the roevwade garbage a thing of the past.

To suggest this is to admit you have no idea how people are made.

Again...some places are doing the right thing by fighting to limit abortions because they understand that it's morally wrong and the action of it can't be brushed under a rug. At some point you are going to have to face the act of an abortion and realize what is actually going on instead of being morally bankrupt by creating life on purpose just to ask a doctor to kill it for you so that you can go on your next baby making romp with a clear conscious.

 

OK, so IF a ZEF is deemed a "person" with rights...with rights come restrictions that we ALL have.

We canNOT use another's body to sustain our life without their consent..that is a FACT.

So if a pregnant woman does not consent to let another "person" use her body to survive she has every right to have it killed ..

Of course if you still think sex and pregnancy are crimes you won't agree and continue to want women to be punished for having sex and getting pregnant...an idea that most Americans do NOT agree with.

Nope, they don't...for many years, to this day, the majority of Americans ( who believe in liberty and rights for ALL) believe abortion should be legal.

I've heard Anti-Choicers saying that for 50 years ....hasn't happened...not even close

No, I said: ""And nobody "creates a life just to kill it"...that's a silly statement..""

NO where in that statement does it indicate I don't know how people are made...that's your "Desperation Imagination" at work.

I know what's going on, women have the right to bodily autonomy LIKE EVERYONE ELSE and can have abortions..

"And nobody "creates a life just to kill it"...that's a silly statement.."" So is ""by creating life on purpose just to ask a doctor to kill it for you""

No one does that...that's your "Desperation Imagination" at work.....and your misogynistic low view of women..

 

Murder involves the death of a human being. Abortion does not prior to the third trimester or in order to save the mother's life.

 

Sorry of course the mother as well. But not some bullshit "game the system" get of jail free excuse like emotional distress or something stupid.

 

So you don't believe in mental health issues...that's denying science....they are real...

 

Interesting... the "my body, my choice" slogan. They hypocrisy. If government can make you take a vaccination, you have zero choice.

 

We hold parents accountable for the welfare of their children. Unless you have no understanding as to how reproduction works. You absolutely made choices that ended with the baby getting into your belly which now puts you on the hook legally to care for it.

Personal responsibility over one's actions. Horror I know.

I never said it would be illegal outright, but using abortion as a means of birth control because you find pregnancy inconvenient wouldn't be a valid reason to get one.

https://www.npr.org/2021/07/09/1014475875/abortion-rights-laws-states-record-conservatives

Unfortunately for you, the reality of what is actually happening during an abortion...the invention of ultra sound, 3D ultrasound. Doctor testimonies...we are starting to actually come to terms with the reality of the situation. That is actually is morally corrupt.

And I think deep down you know this. That's why planned parenthood gets violent by simply trying to show a mother wanting an abortion a general picture of what her fetus may look like. Or show them the heart beating. I mean DEEP DOWN you do know this is vile and corrupt.

https://www.lifenews.com/2020/06/30...ing-ultrasound-of-their-baby-before-abortion/
Weeee!!! They lost that battle!
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/l...an-1/531-5fd88c99-4dc3-4b48-b380-0a689f8ee0fc

I'm going to suggest then you are being willfully ignorant.

These two things are true in your case;

You know how babies are made.
You go into doing the ONE ACT that creates babies knowing you do not want a baby and will just abort the baby should you get pregnant.

Since that's the reality here. You absolutely are willfully creating babies just to kill them. That's the reality of the situation. Your refusal to come to terms with that reality only highlights your refusal to face reality.

You do, but then the person you've created willfully should also have rights. Making a person just to kill a person is vile and evil. We typically frown on that kind of behaviour. This isn't about taking away a woman's rights. It's about people needing to accept responsibility for their actions especially when they are killing a person to get out from facing that responsibility.

If you don't want to get pregnant. Don't do the one thing that gets you pregnant. There are MANY ways to have sex, but only one way that can result in getting pregnant. Be responsible.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
OK, so IF a ZEF is deemed a "person" with rights...with rights come restrictions that we ALL have.
We canNOT use another's body to sustain our life without their consent..that is a FACT.
So if a pregnant woman does not consent to let another "person" use her body to survive she has every right to have it killed ..
Of course if you still think sex and pregnancy are crimes you won't agree and continue to want women to be punished for having sex and getting pregnant...an idea that most Americans do NOT agree with.

Why can't you ever address what I actually post? It indicates you have no good answers, no answers at all, and/or can't address facts.


Do you want another chance to show you have answers for my post (above) or just keep ducking it.???

AGAIN, when a woman who doesn't want, or can't afford , a kid has an abortion that IS taking responsibility....it would be very IRresponsible to have one that isn't wanted or one can't afford.

AGAIN, that is not a response to my ""Nope, they don't...for many years, to this day, the majority of Americans ( who believe in liberty and rights for ALL) believe abortion should be legal."""

An inconvenient pregnancy is the reason women get abortions.

So YOU must be implying that they do it for fun....HOW ODD!!!

Your "morals" only....not everyone shares them...some people think destroying women's rights is immoral.

You are not a mind reader and obviously don't know what I know because you don't even read the posts of mine you respond to!!!

WHERE? WHEN? did PP get violent????? SHOW PROOF!!!!!!

The thing I KNOW is vile and corrupt is taking away women's right as if they are no more than broodstock....

I knew you'd think "WEEEE" if something harmed women.

insults again????

No, I said: ""And nobody "creates a life just to kill it"...that's a silly statement..""
NO where in that statement does it indicate I don't know how people are made...that's your "Desperation Imagination" at work.

"And nobody "creates a life just to kill it"...that's a silly statement.."" So is ""by creating life on purpose just to ask a doctor to kill it for you""

No one does that...that's your "Desperation Imagination" at work.....and your misogynistic low view of women..


WHY can't you address:

OK, so IF a ZEF is deemed a "person" with rights...with rights come restrictions that we ALL have.

We canNOT use another's body to sustain our life without their consent..that is a FACT.

So if a pregnant woman does not consent to let another "person" use her body to survive she has every right to have it killed ..

Of course if you still think sex and pregnancy are crimes you won't agree and continue to want women to be punished for having sex and getting pregnant...an idea that most Americans do NOT agree with

 

Why do you need to use all these infantile blank lines? It comes across as either childish or ignorant? If you notice, I'm forced to edit YOUR posts before I can respond to get them shrunk down to something more reasonable and a more normal format. Such a pain in the ass to have to edit your posts...just FYI.

Anyways. The logic you seem to escape here is that if you do not want to get pregnant. Do not do the one thing that gets you pregnant.

This can apply to anything else in life. If you do not want to die in a plane crash, do not fly. If you do not want to die from a cocaine overdose. Do not use cocaine. Nobody cares if you want to have sex. Sex can be done in multiple different ways. But if your goal is to not get pregnant then do not have sex in the one way that can result in your getting pregnant. You have the power to chose how you want to have sex. That's your willful choice to elect to have sex by putting a penis inside your vagina. That was a willful choice. Since you've stated that you are aware as to what sex act can result in pregnancy, then yes...it's your willful choice to accept the risks of performing that one sex act. You knew what you were doing. You chose to do it.

I can't be more clear on this. And you are electing to be ignorant with regards to this statement. Which is hilarious.

 

OH NO!! A BLANK SPACE!!!! HORRORS!!!
LOL, the sure sign of desperation...complaining about PF's posting format! (It's how it usually goes with those who have no answers)


You really didn't WANT to discuss anything, just climb up on your pulpit and denigrate those "evil wimmens" !!!


Meanwhile, women just keep on havingsex anyway, anytime, with anyone they choose and YOU have NO say

 

My question remains unanswered. How would you enforce abortion laws that already failed long before the internet and abortion drugs?

You have only dodged so far.

 

Translation:

We will make you pay, harlot. I think the one event that totally freaked out the misogynistic religious nuts was the pill. All of a sudden, women could act like men and get away with it. Imagine their horror, now women could have premarital sex without the guilt and worry. Bam, no more virginity tests for you, that love of your life was having a ball long before she met your sorry ass. Oh, the horror, the shameless Jezebels, what can a man do? Then pile on Roe and the freakout went orbital. You mean that little vamp can have sex at will, maybe get pregnant and still get off scott free and its all legal? Why I thought those wombs were joint property, the nerve of these women.

 

I'm technically helping you out by making you more self aware regarding the format of your posts. Nobody wants to scroll down passed several un necessary blank lines to finally arrive at whatever mundane point you are trying to make. So the least you could do is say "thanks" and then try and do better from now on.
Let's play the word game with the rest of your drivel!

Here's a word I want you to get comfortable with the meaning of and try and understand how it relates to this discussion.

Ready for it?

Causality.

Give that a looksee, and then you let me know how it applies with which how women get pregnant.

 

Oh, gosh, I AM so sorry you got tired scrolling!!!

But I have to admit you score high on the Avoid The Real Issues and Duck INCONVENIENT Questions Meter




























You really didn't WANT to discuss anything, just climb up on your pulpit and denigrate those "evil wimmens" !!!


Meanwhile, women just keep on havingsex anyway, anytime, with anyone they choose and YOU have NO say

 

LOL! I can see him up in his pulpit, spittle flying....