Polar vortex returns

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  1. Jack Links

    Jack Links Well-Known Member

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    Sure we do. It's a hoax designed to take away freedoms.
     
  2. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again nothing but name calling. And now the Koch brothers ?? Too funny.
     
  3. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lets see if you believe that. Does this house help global warming or contribute to it? Keeping in mind the staggering amount of fossil fuel used just for the concrete.
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    The Polar Vortex was first described as early as 1853. The phenomenon's sudden stratospheric warming (SSW) develops during the winter in the Northern Hemisphere and was discovered in 1952 with radiosonde observations at altitudes higher than 20 km. The cold North American winter of 2013-2014, popularizing the term as an explanation of very cold temperatures.
     
  5. see you next tuesday

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    Do you always talk like a cartoon?

    Stay home, shoot anyone who moves and rejoice in your "freedoms" :0)
     
  6. Jack Links

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    Typical statist mouthpiece for the social justice warriors.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

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    He bailed rather than answer my question.
     
  8. AFM

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    The energy consumed by that house and its inhabitants is insignificant just as shutting down the US coal industry. The reduction in global average temperature in the year 2100 is negligible. But the economic damage would be very significant.
     
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    Do you think other empires in history have had this argument?

    "We are killing the world!"?
     
  10. Thehumankind

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    Anti-pollution control will also generate jobs at home,
    This could be pursued as well.
     
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    I prefer that perspective over the hysterics from the emotional. If this warming isn't just a short cycle within the longer ice age cycle, and is greater than the natural warming that occurs as we still come out of the remnants of the last ice age, so what? For we are past any cut off point, and the earth will continue to warm for hundreds of years. And cutting co2 completely out will not change that. So we need to start making plans for rising seas. Might need to start moving some cities inward.

    Of course the earth might solve this problem, if it is a problem, by shaking us like a dog shakes off fleas. Get rid of a few billion of the pests, the non beneficial parasites.
     
  12. Spim

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    From an unemotional perspective I agree, I live only 8 feet above sea level but i'll be dead for decades before the worst case predictions scenario really becomes impactfull, I have faith that between then and now we'll come up with an approach even if its a stupid one like new orleans. we go from 8 feet up to 15-20,+ in just a few miles so its not like we need to move to the mountains just yet.

    <thats a simple way of saying that if my unborn great grandchildren have to move in 2080 to avoid taking a boat to work, I'm thinking u-haul might still be around to help out.

    I figure that a combination of various technologies will replace/redirect fossill fuels and eventually hit the market the payoff is too large to not motivate the best and brightest to find a solution.
     
  13. Ethereal

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    I live in the Chicago area and this polar vortex was pretty tame compared to the last one. It's been really cold, but I remember it being much colder the last time around. The last time it happened I was staying at my friend's apartment in the city and he had virtually no insulation going on. His walls were brick and his unit was right on top of the building's concrete foundation. His heating system was running nonstop. Couldn't believe how cold it was that year.
     
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    It is impacting now. You might live only eight feet above sea level but millions don't so can they come and stay at your house?

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    Which one is cheaper cutting down on CO2 emissions or moving several million people?
     
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    Exactly so what is dicaprio complaining about?
     
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    we are transitioning from a very strong El Niño to a La Niña which results in unusually cold ocean temperatures in the Equatorial Pacific. Resembles the winter of 1982 and 1983 which also was a extremely cold winter
     
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    Nope. Full house.

    If you are being impacted now, you should already be marching to higher ground , perhaps years ago.

    Selling my suv isn't going to save someone currently swimming to work.
     
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    Again which is cheaper auctioning increasing CO2 levels or wiping billions off of agriculture?
     
  19. jackdog

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    I'll rank that claim right up there with the snow is a thing of the past, coastal flooding will wipe us all out, billions of climate refugees, arctic circle will be ice free and the rest of the thousands of false predictions the Malthusians feed have been feeding their cult followers for the last 25 years
     
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    neither will help those millions you speak of, if they are being impacted now, absolutely nothing we can do today will help them immediately.

    now its billions? That's a big difference, which is it.
     
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    one would think that people writing papers on agriculture would realize that areas as diverse as Maine, SE Florida, and Seattle all are capable of growing food, you just have to adjust your crops and planting time. I guess papers and research that do not stick to the political correct theme have a hard time getting funding. In Florida I grew tomatoes and corn in the winter. In SC I grow okra in mid summer when the heat would destroy tomatoes and corn, they get planted in late winter to early spring here. I keep my small green house Between 800 - 1300 ppm of CO2 depending on the stage of plant growth and time of year yields and water usage have never been better.
    But please keep posting the AGW propaganda, I love embarrassing you guys with the truth
     
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    To get attention and Liberal cred regardless of how many are hurt.
     
  23. Day of the Candor

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    When you're freezing to death in a foot of snow and ice with a wind chill of minus 35 degrees its hard to understand how anybody could be spouting some crap about global warming. It is also true that 25,50 and 100 years ago we also had snow and ice along with subzero windchills. We also had 100 degree days and droughts, but we didn't have stomped idiots running around going nuts about global warming. Gee, I wonder why that is?
     
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    Bingo! Kinda hypocritical of him living in such a large house as he tells us we need to cut back eh? The ole do as I say not as I do
     
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    It is not all about Gore :roll:
     

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