Poor people having too many children they can't afford

In the case of my neighbor described above.. she'd buy the loser lotsa beer.... 'cause it took very thick beer goggles to shag that yeti.

 

I see you and the "Alt Right" love Planned Parenthood for the same reasons!

 

If there were no poor people who would fight and die for the rich ones and how would the rich become rich in the first place?

 

It seems that you want people who make minimum wage to fund 97.2% of the federal budget.

 

It seems you don't have a real point.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood in poor neighborhoods or there'd be even more !!!!!

WTF are you talking about ?...the righties are the ones trying to shut down Planned Parenthood...

 

Interesting that you didn't realize that you were aligned with the Alt Right...

 

The "alt right " supports Planned Parenthood ? I don't think so....

 

Heh...

The Daily Stormer ‘Endorses’ Planned Parenthood

 

yes children that eventually contribute to society that pay taxes to help support our rapidly ageing population
but children born of poor single mothers hardly ever grow up and become contributing tax paying members of society

 

Sorry, I'm not familiar with your 'go-to's for information. I don't know what the "Dailey Stormer " is....

 

You doth protest too much, and your argument is disingenuous.

Among other things, you would have to live under a rock to have never heard of "Daily Stormer" or to be unaware of the controversial connection between Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger / eugenics.

I think it is unfortunate that eugenics is largely so misunderstood because the concept was bastardized so horribly by the Nazis, and now people tend to hear "eugenics" and think "Nazis".

"The poor" tend to have many traits in common ---- whether it is laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice (drugs, unprotected sex) etc. ---- so if discouraging them from reproducing decreased these traits on our population, would that really be a bad thing? (To be clear, nobody is advocating for putting the poor in gas chambers or any other Nazi atrocities.)

In every scenario where species are bred intentionally, responsible breeders advocate for only breeding the best to the best. And in the wild where species choose their own mates at will, "survival of the fittest" steps in.

Neither of these things apply to humans. Humans breed at will, and many (most?) with no planning at all.

The children are the victims, and they are also what makes the dilemma of "what to do about poor people having children" so complicated. Nobody wants to harm the children, but in a well meaning attempt to protect the children we end up encouraging the poor to keep "breeding" by subsidizing it. It is a perfect illustration of the law of unintended consequences.

This is why both of my suggestions target the parents, without any harm to the children. Tying birth control or subsidized vasectomies to welfare targets the source of the problem, without any harm to the innocent children.

 

You only "disproved" something in your own mind....not here.


I have not back pedaled from anything (again, that's only in your mind which doesn't count at all )

And, again, you have no point so resort to make believe....a typical righty move.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood in poor neighborhoods or there'd be even more !!!!!

I protest because another poster lied about what I posted and my affiliations.

Why do you believe what posters say with no proof whatsoever?????

It's only those who dwell under rocks who are familiar with "Daily Stormer".

Planned parenthood has NOTHING to do with eugenics, Sanger has been dead a long time ( and was vehemently opposed to abortion.).

...or traits like being born to poor parents without the aids and help (and money laundering and bribing) that rich folks have. Rich folks, whose kids suffered from laziness, lower intelligence, complacency, lack of ambition, lack of discipline, weakness towards vice so they needed to pay (illegally) to get them into college....to the detriment of others, poorer, who have to EARN their way into college...


---- so if discouraging them from reproducing decreased these traits on our population, would that really be a bad thing?

No, which is why I posted :FoxHastings said: ↑
Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood in poor neighborhoods or there'd be even more !!!!!
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to the OP.

We are subsidizing CHILDREN.


Yes, there are some really stupid people who think that having kids bring them wealth but they are a very small minority.

You can't cure stupid ...and you can't cure it by making children , who never asked to be here, suffer.
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Which is why I posted :Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood in poor neighborhoods or there'd be even more !!!!!

Planned Parenthood gives poor women and men access to affordable birth control and other health services.


Which has nothing to do with Daily Storm....and if you have read any of my many posts you would know how stupid it would be to think that I advocate anything they might stand for.

 

LOL! Was it something I said?

 

Why would a leftist howl about eugenics? It’s a leftist position.

 

Would you like to expand on that thought?

 

I think it's pretty clear. You don't get more leftist than having the government dictate what sort of people can be produced. It is classical communist intellectual pretense to suppose that if the state creates the perfect environment it can produce the perfect man. Eugenics is based on just such evil thinking. Anathema to individual freedom in the most important way imaginable. The left's favorite abortion mill was founded on just such vile thinking.

 

MY TURN using Critical Thinking

First, let's lay down the facts on the table;

1. U.S. yearly population growth rate;

2019; .71%
2018; .71%
2017; .71%
2016; .71%

Historically, lowest yearly % of change since the mid 40's

2. U.S. National fertility rate;

2019; 1.88%
2018; 1.88%
2017; 1.88%
2016; 1.88%

Historically, lowest rate since the mid 40's

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/us-population/

4. Birth rate in the United States in 2017, by ethnic group of mother/number of births per 1,000 women

a. Hispanic or Latino origin; 57
c. Black or African American; 55
d. White; 51

5. Percentage distribution of population in the United States in 2015 and 2060, by race


https://www.statista.com/statistics/270272/percentage-of-us-population-by-ethnicities/


6. U.S. MEDIAN weekly REAL earnings, full-time, 16 years and over

January 1980; $355/week
December 2018; $355/week

NO CHANGE! However;

How Many Hours a Week Is a Full-Time Job?
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/how-many-hours-a-week-is-full...
Traditional Standard. The standard for full-time employment was typically 40 hours a week in the past. However, many employers now consider employees as full-time when they work fewer hours (i.e., over 30 hours, 35 hours, or 37.5 hours). Because there are no laws regulating full-time employment for compensation and benefits purposes,..




https://alfred.stlouisfed.org/serie...tm_term=related_resources&utm_campaign=Alfred

7. Median weekly earnings of full-time wage and salary workers by race, 4th quarter 2018, 16 years and over;

a. White; $931/week
b. Black or African American; $712
c. Hispanic or Latino; $684

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/wkyeng.t03.htm

8. Thread title; "Poor people having too many children they can't afford"

QUESTION: What's the problem(s)?

a. Having too many
b. They can't afford

QUESTION: If (a.) is a problem, can Congress legislate a one child policy?

Answer; Absolutely not/forget it!

Thus, are there other solutions?

QUESTION: If (b.) is a problem, can it be solved?

Answer; Absolutely, but how?

 

Of course it's the poor people that create all our problems.
But look on the bright side...if not for the poor,
there'd be nobody to blame for your miserable existence
but yourself.

 

Did someone actually mention a one-child law for the US? There could not be a worse idea. Leaving aside the fact that it would be grossly unconstitutional, look at the crisis such inhumane thinking has brought to China.

 

The solution must be working.
Why would they keep allowing a million uneducated, unskill, proverty prone illegal aliens into the country every year for the past forty or more years?

 

Why not tax the poor people ?

Tax the poor.

 

Well, that's total tunnel vision.

But I liked the following:

Yes, some people need somebody to pick on to make themselves feel better (bully syndrome) (and for some, it is never the wealthy)

 

Very very few humans can control sexual urges and it would be unhealthy to do so.