"Poverty in America"... mostly rhetoric

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No in general I can eat quite healthy and not be obese probably cheaper than eating enough to be obese.

    And the poor sure have an ABUNDANCE of options, to claim they are obese because they are poor is simply absurd. Once again show me a country with rampant poverty and the poor eat themselves to death.
     
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    Just drive through the neighborhoods. How can stores that rent fancy chrome wheels exist in a neighborhood that is full of poverty? Or poor do quite well and have discretionary income that they waste on frivolous things and services.
     
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    'Kay, what's your point? And that's a used, salvaged, and 'clipped' Caddie Escalade in the dirt driveway.:roll:
    If they won't demand greatness from themselves, somebody's got to do it!
     
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    What objection can there be to solving for the inefficiency of a natural rate of unemployment in a market friendly manner that can lower our tax burden and help generate revenue for infrastructure development.

    What if it could be accomplished via existing laws and existing infrastructure?
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    You know they are losing when they have to exaggerate and engage in the hyperbole.
     
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    Nice attitude. I hope you never find yourself in the same position-just remember nobody is immune to sudden illness, job loss or catastrophic loss of income; nobody, including you. If you did find yourself in such a position I trust you would refuse welfare assistance since it clashes so badly with your moral ideals?
    The guy you dismissively walk past and scorn could have been you.
     
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    It doesn't work like that. You can gauge other countries with a comparable economy, but you cannot compare it to people who still live in grass huts. That is the intellectual dishonesty part.
     
     
    Not to mention how these statistics are contrived. Count the number of TV's in use and divide it by the number of people in the country, will not tell you how many poor people have them, same with cars, Xboxes, cell phones, etc...
     
     
    The square footage is interesting too. Did they include all the homeless people living in cardboard boxes under bridges, or did they include the bridge as the square footage since it is considered the living area. How about people who live in shelters, prison, or insane asylums??
     
     
    Thes numbers can be tabulated and purposely misrepresented to achieve any number of ridiculous conclusions.
     
     
    The fact is this is nothing more than discriminatory class war tactic to pit the middle class against the poor when the actual focus of why this country is failing should be directed at who is posturing these numbers, and who is actually pulling the strings of our government, to benefit themselves. I think you will find them to be one in the same.
     
     
    People in poverty do not have wealth or the ability to accumulate wealth, they do not have to be completely destitute and starving to death in a ditch to be in a futile disposition of the “society they live in“..
     
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    "just remember nobody is immune to sudden illness, job loss or catastrophic loss of income; nobody, including you"

    And please remember that no conservatives are talking about people truly in need or people temporarily in need. We are referring to the parasites that do not get "welfare assistance" but live "welfare lives." Helping OUT is not a problem, total support through generations IS.

    There is another thread that says that conservatives actually contribute much more to charity for those actually in need than the pseudo-compassionate liberals do.

    The difference is conservatives contribute their own money. Liberals also want to contribute conservatives money.
     
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    I'm the one exaggerating?? These are your claims not mine??
     
     
    As I said too intellectually dishonest to even have an honest dialogue.
     
     
    Got to go weekend calls!!! Tata computer zombies!! :boo:
     
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    IF you are going to post quotes, please identify the person you are quoting. When quoting 2 or more different people without identifying who said what, it looks as though you are inferring that one person made all the quoted statements.

    But perhaps obfuscation is your intellectual dishonesty?
     
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    I have found myself is such a position. So what? This isn't about me, it is about those we classify as poor in this country and the fact our poor lead pretty good lives with lots of ammenities and nice houses and cars and cell phones and xBoxes and PLENTY of food.

    Compare that to the rest of the world.
     
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    I have found myself is such a position. So what? This isn't about me, it is about those we classify as poor in this country and the fact our poor lead pretty good lives with lots of ammenities and nice houses and cars and cell phones and xBoxes and PLENTY of food.

    Compare that to the rest of the world.
     
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    I have found myself is such a position. So what? This isn't about me, it is about those we classify as poor in this country and the fact our poor lead pretty good lives with lots of ammenities and nice houses and cars and cell phones and xBoxes and PLENTY of food.

    Compare that to the rest of the world.
     
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    First off – Please read the title of this Thread

    It is about “Poverty in "America” – NOT the rest of the World
    And how it is believed that Poverty in America” may be mainly Rhetorical

    & Further - Any "Inanity" appears on the Ledger of
    the Intellectually Dishonest & the Willfully IGNORANT

    Those sorry Myopic souls
    Who seek to Rationalize their own lack of Empathy and Compassion
    ....... & give Justification to a Rapacious & Parasitic Ideology

    Who seek to denigrate & make light of an growing "American” Social Problem
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    who seek to Blame the Victims of Ideologicly created Poverty for their plight

    & Who attempt to do that, in a period of record Job Loss, Foreclosure,
    …………………............................................…… & Economic Collapse

    That SIR, comes close to a Definition of Inanity & Intellectual Dishonesty



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    US poverty levels are measured by US standards; not anybodys country else's. Poverty in this country is measured by income to number of people
    in a household, and cost of living:

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/about/overview/measure.html

    http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/about/overview/index.html

    There are more whites in poverty in this country than any other race:

    http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind.jsp?rgn=1&cat=1&ind=14

    Your source is a right-wing think tank with an agenda, so they're numbers and stories are scewed to further that agenda. Since most poor whites live in very rual unnoticed areas, they probably do own their on homes as heritable property; of course, The Heritage Foundation isn't going to cite that.

    Your version of reality is scewed likewise.
     
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    I just put you on my "IGNORE" list. Don't know what your ideas are. You're so tied up in your own cuteness with your ridiculous "style" of posting, I see no reason to bother reading your posts. Bu Bye!~
     
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    This thread is living proof that Morons can post.

    The reference cited was written in 2004 and quoted data from 2002!

    That was then, this is now. Kill this thread.
     
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    Do you have some credible source that the data is materially incorrect? If so please post the link.
     
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    Hello? Frodo is right. How big is the percentage of poor folks still having their homes whilst even middle-class Americans are turning up at the street in the millions?
     
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    Thanx for the WIN - Bubba ! [​IMG]


    Like they say:

    "When you can't take the traffic - Best to get the Hell off the Highway"
    [color=3ffffff]..[/color] & leave the wreckage of your Argument & Misdirection for the Street Sweeper
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    Oh wow, a picture... great for emotion, but hardly even close to a whole story.
     
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    Heritage foundation is bi-partisan? Now that's a joke.
     
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    BuckNaked: "Such hatred for the peasants when they have no controls/power over this society"

    PERFECT!!! This says everything about the typical American liberal... the "peasants" as he so "elitistly" refers to them are simply "victims" who have no power to change their situation.

    How sad. It is clear that big government needs to rescue these defenseless creatures.

    Oh yes, no power that is except for education, free enterprise, trades, the free market, and the seemingly endless opportunity that exists for people here who work hard. People from the third freaking world do it every day here, so there is no excuse for most of our domestic hard-cases.

    It is about the choices you make, not victimhood.

    This is what seperates moonbats from those that have even an iota of understanding of reality.
     
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    If you're going to refute a picture you should use at least a thousand words, cause pictures are worth that much according to folksy sayings.

    Not sure which part of the story makes infants and young children begging alright, but you must be more open to the entirety of the issue than me?
     
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    seriously you may have some good thoughts or points that I haven't considered, but your prose is just to busy to read, it can't be taken seriously.
     
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