"Poverty in America"... mostly rhetoric

Look Janpor I can do it too:



"Europe's poor line up for food handouts"

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/life/discover/2008/12/08/186671/Europe’s-poor.htm

 

What if the person in question isn't good at any of the BOLD?

You should also note that only the best, brightest, most resourceful, and tenacious 3rd world people get over to America, so of course they do reasonably well. Some say that the reason America isn't as hard on illegal immigration is because all those resourceful, diligent, bright people would go back to (be deported to) their home countries and start civil wars because of the horrid operation of said nations, which would be even more harmful to America than the illegal immigrants.

 

This is why you are #2.

 

You are wrong Janpor, go back and read the OP again, you are being intellectually dishonest!

 

"Victims of Poverty"

Again, the mantra of the liberal: "You are a helpless victim. The government will take care of you at the expense of others who made better choices and worked harder, we don't care what choices you made to get here, you are a victim. The income of others will be used to give to you in an effort fully convert you to being totally dependant on the state."

Others will work hard for you, you will take food out of the moths of the children of working families because you decided to drop out of high school, develop a meth habit, and have 4 kids by the time you were 22."

But its OK, you are a Victim

So spineless, cowardly, captitulating, weak.

 

A lot of affluent kids do in fact join as Officers.

And a lot, a lot, of middle class kids go in just because they want to.

 

I see you've decided on the circumstances of the "victim" in your mind. I would note drug addiction is a very serious issue, and indeed a cause of poverty in some cases. To suggest that those that wound up that way deserve it because of their choices is sadistic at best and evil at worst (without even mentioning the 4 children you suggest).

How about the "victim" being a mentally disabled orphan? You gonna get on your pull yourself up by your boot straps rant on that person?

 

A ilittle austerity goes a long way... our debt crisis talks will hopefully lead to similar initiatives.

 

This can be true, but an absolute fact, I don't think so. I think it depends on what you purchase. For example, a bucket of fried chicken at KFC is about $12-$15depending on where in the nation you are.

Now, I guarantee that I can buy 10 lbs of chicken for this amount and roast it, which will yield much more that what KFC offers for the same price.

I am not sure that the per-meal-cost of wholesome, whole food is more than processed, prepared food.

 

Not really, it illustrates the relativity of "poor" and what it means to different people. If you can eat enough to build up fat stores, you are not in life-threatening poverty, period. It is that simple.

 

Thanks for sharing that.

I'm proud to live in a country where few are starving to death, and even many of the poor have at least a few basic items that puts them above rank destitution.

That makes me feel good about the country I live in.

Which the Tea Partiers want to destroy.

 

I would suggest you watch John Stossels recent investigative report on street begging before you try such emotional appeals.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4611629/america-a-nation-of-freeloaders

 

So once you get the raw uncooked food the costs stop... you must live in an apartment that gives you "free" utilities at a 300+/- mark up on rent?

 

Cause John makes you feel those infants and young children begging aren't being sincere, kudos to John I hope Emmys are in his future.

 

Janpor:

+1000%? Come on Janpor. This is egregious. Here is another example: Take a large order of McDonalds French Fries... maybe $2.00, $2.50? Now, the equivalent amount of whole potatoes cut up with olive oil and roasted in the oven would be way, way less than that.

I think that you may be projecting Europes food cost on us. Food is immensely cheap here due to our agricultural power, we are theo world's #1 food producer by a large, large margin.

Exercise helps, but your body burns most daily calories doing regular things. Adding a specific workout routine will only contribute about 20-25% to weight loss at best, the rest is all bout what you eat.

However, exercise has many benefits besides weight management.

 

BuckNaked

I don't think anyone used an all-or-nothing statement like "everybody", but I would say perhaps 90% of them represent this sort of scenario, people driving up to quick-marts in their mercedes and buying T-Bone steaks with food stamps... I see it all the time, and I hear about it all the time.

All the time.

No, I don't at all. I just don't expect the government to take the money I earned and give it to them so they can buy the latest version of HALO even though their poor choices led them to their fate.

It's about personal responsibility, not the cowardly culture of victimhood that liberals love to propogate.

 

I likely will not find myself in such a position because I take responsobility for my destiny, I make good choices, I wirk hard, and I do the right thing.

99.5% of the time if you do the above, you will be fine. As for the other .5%, we can help them, and they will get back on their own feet and off of public assistance.

We definitely want to help those who are truly in need, but we are not doing that, we are creating eternal government dependants that once indoctrinated into the system, tend to stay in it, having even more kids (when they by definition could not afford they ones they had), so the government gives them more money, and avoiding looking for work because they don't want to jeopardize the gravy train.

And they will get away with it, because there is enough moonbats that have convinced those that make laws that these people are simply "victims". I swear, liberalism legitimately borders on mental illness sometimes.

Most Europeans just don't get it, you would have to come here and observe for yourself.

 

I thought large fries were on the dollar menu? But I will take your hypothesis and challenge it.

You can currently get roughly a LB of potatoes (5 or 6 potatoes) for $1.24. So there prolly isnt much more than 1 potato in an order of fries, but you assume time and equipment. ASSUMING you can get to a grocer that sells potatoes without added cost (more driving, bus, cab etc. ... as a former cab driver people do call cabs for return home trips as all the bags become impossible to load on a bus), you still need to have the tools, and appliances to prepare them.

Your assumption that ANYONE would have the tools and skills to prepare raw food into a healthy meal is ignorant, and a chosen ignorance.

 

Your argument here does not sell because these statistics came from the US census bureau, which is bi-partison. Also, they collect data going door-to-door and complile it themselves as well. The data is pretty reliable compared to a lot of BS stats from say "The Policy Institute".

As for comparing to other nations, you are correct, but by that rationale, you also by logical conclusion admit that Americans are not in poverty at all because, as you basically admit here they fail to meet the objective definition (not the politically charged defitintion) of poverty in failing to compare with these other nations.

 

The stupidity in this post is beyond moronic. More is now 'better' is it? WTF do you want, a medal?

 

Ahh if only you had comprehensively read the OP... the Heritage foundation only posted the results, the Data is from the US Census bureau, wholly bipartison and respected for the integrity of their data.

It is your version of reality and the culture of victimhood that you continue to propogate that borders on lunacy.

 

What a hater... your anger and frustration over current realities is apparent based on your font, too bad you are losing control in front of everyone in such a fashion, it just makes you look desperate and weak.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Also, poverty statistics that are 8-9 years old are actually not that dated for this kind of data. Of course frodo, you have proven yourself ill-educated myriad times in the past, so i am not surprised that you don't understand this. I believe they keep so many sheep in New Zealand to keep the average IQ up.

Anyway, enjoy the aid we gave Christchurch after the quake. Maybe one day you won't have to rely on our goodwill.

 

Oh, of course, 'personal responsibility', that fall-back mantra of the idiot right wing which is never ill, never becomes bankrupt through no fault of its own, and never finds itself unable to meet hospital bills. There is another world beyond your Utopian little bubble. Too bad you never visited, it might change your attitude, although somehow I doubt it.
No wonder Americans are seen as stupid everywhere except America.

 

LOL, what? What ass did you pull this from? You are wrong Janpor, this simply isn't happening.

Even if we disagree, I am sad to see you throw in with Frodo, it is too bad you are going to let him compromise your intellect like that. I am confinent in stating that I have run circles around that Kiwi on this board easier than I tie my shoes. Seriously, have you read some of his posts?

Just because you don't like the data does not mean you have to call the messenger a moron. Besides, personal attacks merely reveal lack of confidence in any real logical argument.

 

Who said that?