Predictions on how Biden will respond to drone bombing

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  1. conservaliberal

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    So, you're saying that Geriatric Joe and his team of 'on-top-of-it' military high command didn't dither for DAYS before launching a counterattack? You Biden-apologists really are desperate... and any of us who ever "wore the uniform" can see that so very clearly.... :roflol:
     
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    I don't know what "Geriatric Joe" did or didn't do. My specialty are facts, not idiotic partisan speculation. And one fact I DO know is that every time you MAGAs "guess" something..., you guys have invariably been wrong. You can just look through this thread... So whatever YOU think they did, statistics indicate that the opposite is likely true.

    One GOOD strategy would have been to let them crap their pants for a few days trying to guess what the response would be. Then have them crap in their pants again when the actual response comes. And then crap again every day after that wondering what our next step would be.
     
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    Actually, in my Post #50, I did foretell what Biden would likely do, and he turned out to be remarkably predictable. But I'm NOT a Trump supporter... it's just that Biden is an order of magnitude WORSE!

    But the point is that the Iranian military hasn't been debilitated at all -- and until Biden's Pentagon 'braintrust' can accomplish THAT, this kind of **** that we are subjected to will continue. Depend on it! ;)
     
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    You could have fooled me... but you didn't. Because only MAGAs make wild predictions with absolutely NO basis. Even TODAY we don't know what Biden will do. He just started responding. ONLY a MAGA would believe that Trump could even begin to handle a delicate situation like this.
     
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    When your criticism of the US military response is reduced to complaining about the time it took to use intel in identifying specific targets to degrade the ability of these militia groups to attack US installments in the future, well, you really look a bit petulant.
     
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    First three replies, 3 strikes you're out at the old ball game! 8)
     
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    Biden hasn’t done anything. He’s just stepping the bombing which he was doing all along. He’s telegraphing his blows so that Iran knows that it’s time to pull the leaders back to Iran where they will be safe and sound.

    Trump sent a message when he had Soleimani killed. Iran complained, but they got the message. Their terrorist activity went way down.
     
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    You're giving him CREDIT for not imposing martial law. That's not a reflection of holding him to a low standard, it's no standard at all.
     
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    The fact that Biden made sure the retaliatory attacks were directed at the terrorist groups threating US troops in the region shows he isn't pursuing a war of any scale whatsoever.
     
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    I'm glad that we finally (FINALLY) did something, and it looks like the relatively small portion of the counter-attack that involved the terrorists in Syria which attacked our base in Jordan was sort of an "add-on" to a totally different effort that had been weeks in development against the Houthis way down in Yemen. So, yes, hooray for Biden that he finally did something besides lifting sanctions on Iran and giving it a 'green light' to go on developing nuclear weapons capabilities.

    It must be clear by now to everyone -- even the radical 'woke' Left in this country -- that IRAN is the 'head of the snake'! We can continue to 'act with restraint' in the Middle East as our Biden-appointed 'experts' seem inclined to do, but it will solve nothing (NOTHING) until/unless we 'cut the head off of the snake'. I won't insult anyone's intelligence by suggesting you and @Golem don't comprehend this.

    Gentlemen, once that insane klatch of Isamo-Nazi 'priests' who rule Iran get their hands on nuclear weapons, the 'game' changes dramatically. They already have the missiles to deliver 'payloads' as far away as 5,000 kilometers (over 3,000 miles). They have cruise missiles; they have hypersonic missiles! They are commanded by their religious beliefs that anyone who is not a Muslim is an "infidel" which must resisted, harmed, or killed: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    If we "infidels" don't deal decisively and conclusively with these combined military forces that Iran's rulers have at their command, we will eventually be effectively run out of the Middle East, and Israel is doomed!
     
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    My main objection (among many) to Trump is in his cavalier, "stock markets-über-alles" approach to our own economy! A roadmap to disaster! I won't rant about that here, but in terms of dealing with IRAN (the "head of the snake"), Trump was much more effective, by far, than Biden. Biden's floundering, unmitigated failure in the Afghanistan 'withdrawal' is what enabled this much more aggressive, belligerent series of provocations authorized by Iran in the first place!

    Think: who lifted sanctions on Iran? Was it Trump? Who personally authorized the 'sanction' on Qasem Soleimani, the commander of the Quds Force? Was it Biden? I don't want EITHER of them as President of the United States, but if Biden is re-elected (which we both know is virtually certain at this point), our long-range future in the Middle East will continue going from bad to worse, and Israel? It surely will not survive as "the Jewish State" that have known since its inception in 1948... and it may not survive at all!
     
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    You're probably right, it's a new year and I think we make annual payment! Except for Ukraine, like with most children they get a weekly allowance as long as they did all of their chores!
     
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    We've learned from the best, the hyperbolic, disinformation and propaganda loving left...

    Thanx for the PROFFESSIONAL compliment, it means a lot to us!!
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    If our troops are attacked again, Bribed Joe's response was ineffective.
     
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    Why is Iran not being bombed?
     
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    Guys it might be working! I think if they just bomb a few more empty tool sheds in the desert, Iran might back off.
     
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    That's quaint, but hardly demonstrates a grasp on what is going on in this country. A REAL roadmap to disaster, financially, politically, militarily... is his continuous attempts to become a dictator. We can recover (and we have) from Trump mishandling the economy. It may be painful, but not devastating. Undermining our democracy, palling with the world's most ruthless dictators... THAT would prove much more difficult the second time around.

    Oh God! Trump SURRENDERED to the Taliban. Unconditionally! What failure could be greater than THAT!

    Yes!!! When he withdrew from the Iran deal, he destroyed EVERY leverage we had.

    You have the most simplistic view of international politics. You reduce everything to "who was President when X" happened. Never bothering to try to understand WHY X happened. There are many things that Biden and Obama did that were a gamble. Biden took a gamble honoring Trump's surrender to the Taliban, for example. He might have thrown it into the garbage, which would have undermined the doctrine we have kept since the founding, by which one President honors the agreements signed by their predecessor. Kicking the can down the road (like Trump did) and let some future President deal with it. But to say that Trump did ANYTHING. ... let's not say "better"... anything NOT destructive... demonstrates absolute lack of understanding of international relations.
     
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    Willful ignorance isn't a good look. Even for you.
     
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    Iran is having a hissy fit because they were considered to be the number one state sponsor of terror...
    Then Biden came along and supplied $80 billion of our most highly sophisticated military equipment to the Taliban terrorist...
    Now the US is the number one state sponsor of terror... leaving the assoholla and his country in second place... not acceptable in their eyes...
     
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    One of the very few things (in my estimation) that Trump actually did get right was his general approach to the Middle East -- and specifically, IRAN. You are welcome to criticize Trump from many standpoints, and I'll probably join you about 75% of the time -- but NOT on Trump's policy toward IRAN.

    I'm not a foreign policy "expert" of the calibre that brought on dismal failures like Vietnam, the Balkans, Iraq, and Afghanistan, so you're welcome to slam my lack of 'credentials' -- but you may be interested in the opinion expressed yesterday by one of the more famous and influential Independent-Democrat senators of the recent past: Joe Lieberman!

    "The Biden administration's Middle East policy has been based on a "mistaken belief that somehow you can trust Iran," while former President Donald Trump "absolutely got the Middle East right," former Sen. Joe Lieberman said on Newsmax Sunday."

    Link: https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/lieberman-biden-trump/2024/02/04/id/1152218/

    Afterthought -- Given the certainty of a Democratic Party victory this November, the only remaining questions are:

    1. How much longer will it be before Iran's proxies (probably with Russia's 'back-office' assistance) sinks one or more U. S. Navy ships with hypersonic missiles?

    2. How much longer will it be before Iran announces that it has nuclear weapons and the missile systems to put them on targets anywhere in the Middle East?
     
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    Well, Traitor Joe wouldn't want to upset his masters in Tehran....

    :democrat: AMERICA LAST 2024 :democrat:
     
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    By removing international inspectors who verified day to day that Iran was not using nuclear power to build a bomb?

    Lieberman is an American Netanyahu. If you believe that the solution to the Iran situation is war, Liberman and Netanyahu are your guys. I think that is the wrong approach, not just because it won't work. But because even ATTEMPTING it would be devastating to us and would cost many American lives, not to mention the humongous cost in taxpayer money.

    The REAL way to deal with this, and ANY complex international situation is not black and white. There will be policies that work, and others that don't. But the main problem is people who can ONLY think in binary terms. There IS no binary solution to this problem. There is no binary solution to ANY problem. And there is no way MAGAs can understand this fact.

    Impossible to know because Trump removed the international inspectors.
     
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    Poor Biden! He's so far gone now that he's just a pathetic wind-up toy for the internationalist 'wokesters' who tell him everything to do. I was no big fan of Donald Trump, but he sure was right in his handling of Iran specifically! He had them by the balls economically, and he knocked off their big QUDS commander, Soleimani. They knew better than to fool with Trump!

    But, 'kinder, gentler' Joe Biden ended the sanctions on Iran that were actually working, and he showed the very kind of weakness that lead to all kinds of misery we have today, including a disastrous 'bugout' from Afghanistan, Russia in Ukraine, China threatening Taiwan, etc., etc. But, what could anyone expect from the kind of America-hating 'woke' handlers that Biden surrounded himself with?
     
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    1) The only real way to deal with this is through strength, not weakness and appeasement. Obviously, Obama and Biden never understood that, and neither do the Obamunists and Bidenistas who make lame excuses for them.

    2) Obama's sham deal with his masters in Tehran never contained an air tight inspection regime, but like the incompetent invertebrate that he was, he made the deal anyway and let the "Death to America!" crowd off the sanctions hook.....just like Biden has done.

    Bleating and babbling about "binary" and "MAGAs" and false choices (war) is just a distraction from the unavoidable fact that the Obama & Biden Administrations' foreign policy of weakness and appeasement has been an abject failure.

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    This has never been difficult, and if you did your research you would already know this, but the Left just doesn't get it. It just keeps repeating the mistakes of the past, over and over again...

    For those who need everything spelled out for them, what the profanity filter censored in the quote above rhymes with wussies.
     
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    Those "international inspectors" you believe were so vital for verification of Iranian cooperation were in fact forbidden by Iran's government to get access to any place that Iran unilaterally declared to be a "military" site! With that caveat carved-in-stone by Iran, the whole 'inspections' leverage became an easily-manipulated joke. Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1B9182/

    Now that we've gotten that straight... onward!

    Yes, diplomacy encompasses the art of compromise, and if Iran weren't ruled over by a tyrannical, overbearing klatch of truly wacko Muslim 'priests' and warmongering military commanders, there is ample reason to believe that reasonable, intelligent, well-educated factions in the Iranian population could be negotiated with in good-faith, and that Iran could become one of the more prosperous, enlightened centers in the Middle East, living in harmony and mutual respect with its neighbors. However, nothing that has happened in Iran since at least as far back as 1979 suggests the remotest possibility of this happening. The only alternative, then, is the threat of military force -- a thing that the current regime in Iran is capable of understanding....
     

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