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  1. Incorporeal

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    The "point" is that you folks are trying to say all documents are no proof - that makes the Bible no proof as well!

    You have no proof! LOL!

    I might add that most of the presented documents are REAL people saying things about REAL people, or reporting what was said.

    Whereas the Bible has a bunch of invisible people, demons, talking donkeys, talking snakes, magic wands, Sorcerers, too small ark story, etc. Fairytale land.

    I think My sources beat yours for proof! LOL!
     
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    Is that not what I said. I said the Bible is not any proof. At the same time, I would ask you this: Since when are documents a more valid source of proof than what the scientific community says,,, and that community admits that science cannot prove anything. So, if science cannot prove anything, then what makes you think that any written document which is nothing more than the opinion of the author is better grounded in truth than science?

    And neither do you HA HA HA HA HA HA... LOL LOL LOL LOL.

    So What? Where is the PROOF of what was said?

    And then we look back a ways in history and we find other invisible people like Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, and many many more, whose REAL existence has not been tested and PROVEN. Can you PROVE that King Arthur was a real person by means other than documents that have been written? No? Then those documents only represent the opinion of various people.

    Proof? What proof? All you have provided is OPINION. Just like anyone else who attempts to assert something about an era that was thousands of years ago. Just opinionated statements.
     
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    Oh, and I suppose random speculation and derisive complaining are supposed to pass for ... proof? Science?

    Liek any historical document, the Bible is indeed proof. History, Archeology, etc., use tried and true standards of proof and accountability. That process has withstood 2,000 years of naysaying and silly speculative nonsense - but what is clear it, then as now, that the denial of such falls well short of any standard at.

    In fact, for wells and company, the denial of the Bible is a cacaphony of rediculous, counter-negating standards that are used basically ... to pull and ostrich.

    Religion is not science. So I find myself wondering why pagans and atheists pend so much time trying to make religion in science ... and then deny that science is their religion?

    I find that ... curious.
     
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    LOL! You guys are being ridiculous. You keep trying to bring in science when we are talking historic documents.

    Only some parts of the Bible are history - none of the - magical - God - ark - talking critters - angels - Adam and Eve - etc - have been proven - as well as some of the "so called" history = Exodus, etc.

    LOL! And what "science" have I brought in to this document debate???
     
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    LOL! Red Herring! We are debating what historic documents say - not science.

    As repeated several times - I have provided documents including the Bible itself to PROVE what I said.

    More ridiculous on your part. I word my replies very carefully - for instance - I said Iesous was CALLED a Sorcerer - and I then provided the documents CALLING HIM A SORCERER!

    I said the Bible had magic wands, magic, etc, - and PROVED this by providing the VERSES.

    You keep ignoring the facts and adding this bull!

    LOL! More red herrings having nothing to do with what we are talking about.

    You don't like what I am SHOWING so try to discredit all documents! LOL!

    LOL! I provide documentation for what I say - you folks don't!
     
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    You are the one who brought science up.

    Yes, there are several acdemic volumes on Exodus and the proof that goes with it. There is also not conincing alternative solution for how the Israelites developed their religion - but the iotherwise accurate history, Saul, David, etc. of the OT shoud be rejected.

    Indeed, Jesus Mythers are the ones who are routinely laughed at by the academic community.

    But of course, there is no proof - and there never will be for the very scientific community of the three monkeys.

    Kind of hard to convince a closed mind that it is wrong, such things are never reasonable.
     
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    So now here we have it folks... FINALLY.. another non-theist admits that the Bible can be used as PROOF.

    Thank you very much. So much for the non-theist arguments against the Bible and God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, because that non-theist admits that the Bible is PROOF.
     
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    Where's the party going to be for the victory over this godless heathen?
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    That is going to require some massive planning involving several millions of people who need to be told about this miracle of language. Of course that language will have to be translated and in that process, the message might get a little bit contorted, but I am confident that the essence of the message will be received by all who read about it. So, the question now is WHO is going to be in charge of the initial phase of the planning? How about we leave all the planning up to the Holy Spirit?
     
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    Time to close the thread it has reached the maximum amount of posts.
     
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