Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster

Prepare for a semantics argument ...

 

That's staged, not planted, completely different things.

suede has been very clear and concise with his argument since he's been a member at PF, and always supports his clear and concise arguments with well documented evidence.

 

2nd Warning:

This is not subject to a particular person but rather to what the OP expresses. Also, if the tit for tats continue, this thread will be closed.

Please debate like adults.

Thank you,

Jiyuu-Freedom
Site Moderator

 

It's interesting how when a known game player gets pinned down on his game playing the Moderators start showing up in said threads.

Actually, it's not interesting, just expected because it's all part of the game.

 

OK, anybody:

Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster

 

Then close it already.

The OP was bait from the start and that poster isn't even participating in the thread anymore.

And how is what a particular person has expressed time and time again on the same topic in 6 other threads not relevant to the discussion?

 

You should be more concerned about trying to Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster.

 

United Airlines Flight 93 was a 757.
Calling it a 'bunker buster' is like calling it a 'waffle iron'.

Perhaps a refresher:

 

Yes. Why is it so hard for you skeptics to prove most of one buried in Shanks? Seems like it should be pretty easy if a 757 really buried there.

 

That's what you guys do...when you can't answer a question or somebody wants to discuss an "uncomfortable" topic, and rather than simply ridiculing it or the usual games, you want it shut down.

You guys COULD just directly answer questions in an honest fashion, and bypass all the nonsense, but the objective isn't truth so, we have this BS.

 

It's been directly answered, and evidence provided with sources.

There were no bunkers in the field that UA93 crashed into.

 

What was the answer again?

 

That's not the topic of this thread.

No bunkers existed in the field that UA93 crashed in.

 

So I take it that you aren't going to address the multiple examples showing you actually wrote what you claimed you didn't write.

Not really a surprise I guess.

 

They don't want to because they don't want to live with the embarrassment that they were wrong this whole time, so they will do everything to sidestep and derail.

It's funny they are trying to weasel out of the discussion by trying to pathetically take the thread title literally. But if they want to embarrass themselves in public by doing so, all the power to them!

 

Another post ducking having to prove 93 buried.

Not really a surprise I guess.

 

Of course the simple answer is to contact the people on the scene.

I wonder why the 'truth seekers' are trying to weasel out of doing that?

 

The topic of the OP has nothing to do with 'buried'.

You keep posting the 'bunker buster' nonsense and then trying to weasel your way out of it. Classic 'truther' tactics.

 

You really think the OP was being literal with the title.

 

Honest discussion is to be avoided at all costs apparently. Amazing that within minutes, the same old players are instantly there to keep the haze of fog thick. Next, they'll want the thread shut down. Does anybody really believe these swarms of characters are simple posters and not something more? Pullleeeease.

 

ITT you claimed you never said United 93 debris was planted. Multiple posts have shown that to be a lie.

You realize this forum has a search function right? Are you not going to stand behind your own words?

Quack.

 

Smoke and haze and whatever they can do to enhance it...

 

You keep quoting it, then dodging.

 

Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster

To skeptics, that means Prove Flight 93 buried.

 

Let's have some evidence:

Evidence Summary: 10 Points

1) The four hijackers purchased tickets under their own names and boarded the plane. One was randomly selected for and passed additional security screening. Ziad Jarrah was a licensed pilot and had recent training on professional large jet flight simulators. United flight 93 was scheduled to depart at 8:00 am, but left 42 minutes late due to airport traffic. Aboard were 33 passengers, 7 crew members, and 4 hijackers.

2) Several passengers and crew called from the plane, spoke with loved ones, described the hijackers' attack, and related their plan to try to retake the plane so that it would not be used as a suicide weapon against a populated area. All but two of these calls were made using the plane's seatback Airfones.

3) The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' attack and apparent murder of the pilots and a flight attendant. Air traffic controllers heard a radio transmission by a man with an Arabic accent, warning of a bomb on board. Passengers reported that one of the hijackers had what appeared to be a bomb strapped to him.

4) After learning about the other attacks, passengers and cabin crew attempted to retake the cockpit but were apparently unable to gain entry. The sound of their attempts was recorded on the CVR. The CVR also recorded the hijackers' decision to end the flight, followed by repeated shouts of "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest.") until the plane crashed. Families of victims heard the CVR recording.

5) Flight 93 was tracked by radar until it went down.

6) Many people in Pennsylvania saw the Boeing 757, traveling at low altitude and high speed, roll to the right and plummet upside-down, nose first, towards the ground. Many people witnessed the subsequent enormous explosion and fireball. Val McClatchey photographed the mushroom cloud.

7) Hundreds of first responders (mostly volunteer firefighters) and crime scene investigators were quickly on the scene. They saw human remains, aircraft wreckage, personal effects, jet fuel, etc.
The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered and had usable data, all of which is consistent with the other evidence.

8 The remains of every victim was positively identified. Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller personally collected many remains and made 12 identifications through fingerprints and dental records. Personal effects of most passengers and crew were recovered and returned to their families.

9) Hijacker identification documents and personal effects were recovered, along with the remains of four people identified as the hijackers through the process of elimination.

10) Nearly all of the aircraft was recovered by professional investigators and by civilians. The debris was returned to United Airlines after being examined for evidence of explosives use.

At Shanksville, which was by far the smallest of the three 9/11 crash scenes, over 1,100 people from 74 agencies and organizations worked at the scene. Including civilian volunteers, many of whom joined an organized effort to collect aircraft parts, the number of crash scene workers reaches well over 1,500.

On 9/11 alone, these included: • 8 Police Departments • 7 EMS Services • 8 Fire Departments • 10 Emergency Management Agencies • NTSB • ATF • FBI • CISM • Red Cross • United Airlines

Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders

Phone contacts(all public) for those who find snailmail a challenge:

Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co: (814) 267-4737

Somerset County Emergency Services : non emergency(814) 445-1525
toll free 1-800-362-5060

Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management: 724-834-7007

Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg: (717) 651-2201